16:9 - Anamorphic or Not ?

I believe that most 16:9 cameras have an anamorphic lens which squeezes the picture laterally onto a normal 4:3 chip. When capturing in FCE presumably you would use one of the Anamorphic settings.
However, I have been told that some widescreen cameras have a "normal" (non-anamorphic) lens which puts the image on a 16:9 chip with no squeezing.
Is this correct and if so what capture preset would you use in FCE ?
Ian.

Actually no. Most cameras, and all consumer cameras, squeeze the image electronically. The lens is normal. That lets the user switch back and forth between 4:3 and 16:9.
Some camera use 16:9 chips, but then the image is squeezed anamorphically to fit the frame size, 720x576 for PAL, 720x480 for NTSC.

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I shot a video on a Canon XM2 in anamorphic 16:9, edited it on avid, now iv moved it home to my mac and added effects on FCP.
I want to export it, among other things to put it on youtube. It always exports as anamorphic. I know FCP allows you to view it as squashed into 16.9 but how do i actually convert it to make it ACTUALLY widescreen -
i know seems to be a regular question, but it never seems to be answered
If its impossible to do on final cut, is there another programme that actually can squash the shape into the correct aspect ratio i want?
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There are 2 ways to do this. You can make sure that the Properties for the quicktime are set up to display an anamorphic file correctly, or you export with 16:9 pixel dimensions.
That's the answer. If you need help in accomplishing this, post back. You might also want to do some research on preparing a video for youtube.
Try this: http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/you_tube_hdgary.html
Not sure if it deals with the 16:9 issue, but a good read none the less.

To capture in anamorphic or not?

Hi, I shot a few footages, most with camera's 16:9 setting on, some older footages are in 4:3. I'm confused on what setting to use. If the footages are 16:9, should I capture them with anamorphic settings? What happens if I don't? When I create a sequence, and I want it to be anamorphic, can I just drag and drop a regular 4:3 footage to it and will it convert automatically? If I use a 16:9 footage in a 16:9 sequence, does it automatically know that the footage is 16:9? Or if I use 16:9 footages, the sequence is automatically 16:9? Lastly, is the sequence setting used for the final output of the project, regardless of the different formats, resolutions of the footages?
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I'm battling insomnia, so I'll give this one a try...
Hi, I shot a few footages, most with camera's 16:9 setting on, some older footages are in 4:3. I'm confused on what setting to use.
Are you saying that from one tape - from a single camera - you've mixed 16:9 and 4:3 footage?
If that is the case:
Capture all your footage as 4:3
Comb thru your footage and make subclips for all your 16:9 footage. (If you've shot on DV, use DV Start/Stop Detect to speed things up)
With your Browser in List View:
Select all your (16:9) subclips and scroll over to the Anamorphic column.
With all your subclips still selected, Control-Click and select Yes from the contextual menu
Do not simply click in the column - that'll only affect one clip (and deselect all others)
If you did it right, all your subclips will now be Anamorphic 16:9
Decide how your want to mix your footage in order to determine if you need a 16:9 sequence or a 4:3 sequence
(Captain Mench has already told you what to do there)
If the footages are 16:9, should I capture them with anamorphic settings? What happens if I don't?
As the process above details, Anamorphic is a flag. Since it's not a codec - like, say, DV-NTSC or DV-PAL - once your footage is digitized (in the right codec) you can simply activate - or deactivate - that flag.
When I create a sequence, and I want it to be anamorphic, can I just drag and drop a regular 4:3 footage to it and will it convert automatically?
The 4:3 footage will appear with with black bars on the right and left. In the world of post-production, we call this windowboxing.
If I use a 16:9 footage in a 16:9 sequence, does it automatically know that the footage is 16:9?
So long as the flag is set in FCP's browser, the answer is yes.
Or if I use 16:9 footages, the sequence is automatically 16:9?
No, FCP works the other way around - the aspect ratio of the sequence determines how clips are displayed. If you want 16:9 footage to fill the frame - and look correct - drop it into a 16:9 sequence.
Alright, finally feeling sleepy...

Anamorphic Widescreen Not Working

I have anamorphic widescreen movies that play correctly in QuickTime, but when I play them directly in iTunes, they play in the anamorphic aspect ratio instead of their intended aspect ratio. Does iTunes just not understand anamorphic? It's hard to believe that such a mature program just wouldn't know how to play anamorphic widescreen, especially since Apple has it working with QuickTime. I've looked for settings, but can't find any that would fix this.
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Anamorphic sequence not producing anamorphic export

when I am doing some quick and dirty editing and correction, I use the method of cutting in FCP, then exporting that to a quicktime movie...I make the movie self-contained and select "Current Settings" in the Save box you get right after selecting Export>Quicktime movie.
I can then toss the original, large clip and work with the smaller one. I've done this loads of times and it's worked great, except for this evening. The exported clip doesn't come back in as anamorphic, even tho I captured as anamorphic, my editing sequence is anamorphic, so I'd hope that "Current Settings" would include the anamorphic setting.
when I pull that exported movie back into a Duplicated of the sequence from which I exported (clips deleted, of course) I get that squashed picture with black at right and left.
I've retraced my steps a few times and other movies I've done this with turn out OK...I don't get why this one is not able to be re-imported with the proper aspect ratio.
Any hints?
Thank you!
R

RaySkater wrote:
when I pull that exported movie back into a Duplicated of the sequence from which I exported (clips deleted, of course) I get that squashed picture with black at right and left.
I've retraced my steps a few times and other movies I've done this with turn out OK...I don't get why this one is not able to be re-imported with the proper aspect ratio.
What version of FCP are we talking here?
This might not relate to your situation but there are situations where I've found when using FCP 6 (up to and including 6.0.2, at least) where if a DV-NTSC Anamorphic sequence doesn't contain renderable material - ie, you've just made cuts and that's it, no render files to reference or export with - exporting that sequence (as Current Settings) results in a 4:3 ratio QT movie. That is, I opened up the QT movie and it showed 640x480 as the display size.
Sorry if that's no help, but I was banging my head against a wall until I 'discovered' this issue a month or two ago...

Anamorphic or not?

I am doing my first HD project with scenes from my new Panasonic TM900.
I shot using the HG setting which is 1920x1080 and I plan to burn the project to ordinary DVD.
Should I open the project as 1080i anamorphic or just plain 1080i?
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Hi Mike,
Quote > Here's a little info on anamorphic. It's more the thing of the past, now that we have full 1080p (1920x1080) cameras>
I use both, frankly I cannot tell the difference on a split screen , you may have better eyes than mine, I come from the cinema era when cinemascope, panavision were all anamorphic, now many digital cinemas which for sharpness and color find it hard to match film, but, that is going back many years. The current crop of 24fps digital movies on say a Cinema Mode full HD 1920 x 1080 Sony or equivalent is to my eye not as good as digital HD either 720x 576 P or 1920 x 1080P if played on a Vivid setting.

Anamorphic or not for YouTube videos

Hello,
I am editing a few old videos from a DVD I have. I saw that when creating a new project in Final Cut Pro X I have the option to choose a resolution of 720x576 or a 720x576 Anamorphic. I know that anamorphic 4:3 video when played to a widescreen tv is better but the videos I am working at will be going to YouTube. So the question is will I benefit in working with an anamorphic resolution within my project or not ?

Depends on whether the DVD was anamorphic (and displayed as 16:9). Check the aspect ratio in the project, If the DVD were 4:3, and you exported at 16:9, it would be distorted.
YT will show an uploaded 4:3 movie as pillarboxed in a 16:9 frame.
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Anamorphic- FCP5- DVD?

I'm doing a project in 16:9 for the first time. I shot in 16:9 SD on my Canon XH-A1. I've read up on the concept of anamorphic, but I'm a little confused on the best thing to do in this situation. I need to edit the 16:9 footage and then output to a DVD either through iDVD or DVD Studio Pro. I would like for people with widescreen TV's to be able to watch it that way, with no letterboxing. But then people without widescreen would see it letterboxed.
As a test I created a custom sequence setting that is 853 x 480, and exported the video in that size. Then I put that into DVD Studio Pro and burned it to disc. I did get 16:9 letterboxed video when played on a regular 4:3 screen. I haven't been able to test it yet on a widescreen set. I'm not sure what to expect.
1. Will this work?
2. Does it have to be this hard? If I used a 720 x 480 Anamorphic sequence preset, and output it in those dimensions, wouldn't my final product be letterboxed on both widescreen and 4:3 sets? Or if not wouldn't it be scaled up and lose quality? I'm confused on how this setting would work.
thanks.

1. No - video that is natively 853x480 will have to resized by DVDSP. Video for DVD (in NTSC land) should be 720x480 (anamorphic or not).
2. No, it doesn't have to be hard at all. Use the NTSC DV 48Khz Anamorphic Easy Setup and everything should be, umm, set up for you while editing. Provided your settings in DVDSP are correct - your tracks and menus are set to 16:9 Letterbox - your final product will not be letterboxed on 16:9 displays.
Since it confuses a lot of folks, let me clarify: the 16:9 options in DVDSP only affect how anamorphic 16:9 video is displayed on 4:3 sets. Anamorphic 16:9 video is always 'full screen' on 16:9 displays (unless the player's TV Shape setting is incorrectly set).

4:3 clip still showing up as Anamorphic in Sequence

I know this is too simple.
But, I have been over and over the settings and it still shows up as Anamorphic.
I'm working a test shoot for a project to give the client an example of different frame rates and letterbox vs 4:3.
But when I drag the 4:3 into it's own sequence with the settings unchecked for anamorphic --> it still is being automatically stretched out and letterboxed.
Rrrr.

"Right Click (control click) on the clip in question in the timeline and REMOVE ATTRIBUTES... make sure ONLY the DISTORT box is checked. Somethign is forcing the Distort - Aspect to be goofy."
not goofy, correct behaviour. If a clip is marked as anamorphic (or not) when it's edited into a sequence, it'll stay that way even if you alter the master clip in the browser. If you want to change it after adding it to a sequence you have to remove attributes as you suggest. Alternatively you can double-click the clip in the timeline and then adjust the distort settings from the motion tab in the source monitor. This gives you more control than simply off and on.

FCP 7 Captured/Imported letterbox footage incorrectly marked as Anamorphic

I recently installed FCP 7 and captured 24pA footage with the Easy Setup for 23.98 with Advanced Pulldown Removal. The footage was not shot anamorphic but was shot letterbox (on DVX100b). FCP batch captures the footage and I notice afterward that the anamorphic box checked on all the clips (and correspondingly visually distorted). I notice the same after I import 24pA footage (non-anamorphic) that I had already captured into new FCP project, also setup with the 24pA Easy Setup for Capture and Sequence.
This is fixable by unchecking the anamorphic column for each of the clips, of course, but it's tedious and shouldn't be happening i the first place.
Why is FCP 7 interpreting all new letterbox footage as anamorphic? I checked the settings for the Easy Setup and the box for anamorphic is NOT checked! I did not check non-letterboxed video. Also, the pixel aspect ratio. is set at CCIR601 on both the capture and sequence settings. Any ideas about the letterboxed video? Thanks.

I don't have an answer to your core question, but I own the DVX100B and shoot/capture at 24PA/advanced pulldown removal. However, I either shoot SD or I attach anamorphic lens adapter for 16:9.... have never tried using either Letterbox or Squeeze mode.
Reading through "The DVX Book" by Barry W. Green, he suggests that Letterbox mode is useful for simulating a wide screen look on a 4:3 TV screen, which is what you may be trying to achieve, but if your viewers are watching wide screen, you would get better looking results using the Squeeze mode.
My workflow is designed to create deliverables that are properly formatted for 16:9 flat screen displays because the majority of my clients and end users no longer own a CTR monitor or TV.
Eddie

To interlace or not to interlace...

I've got a project where I'm mixing HDV 720P and DVCAM 60i footage. I'm using ProRes as my timeline codec. My final destination is DVD. So to maintain the sharpest image for TV on DVD playback I'm wondering whether I should have interlacing on in Sequence Settings. I know that Compressor will interlace anyway as part of the DVD Best Quality transcode, so I'm wondering whether interlacing in my timeline is good or bad for my footage, particularly the progressive stuff. Or is the difference negligible? Any thoughts? Just to complicate matters I also have some HDV 1080i shots as well. They have the shift fields filter applied to modify from upper to lower.

joey848 wrote:
I know that Compressor will interlace anyway as part of the DVD Best Quality transcode
That's not actually correct. If your timeline is 23.976, Compressor will just leave it at 23.976 all the way through the MPEG-2 encoding process. You'll end up with 23.976 footage on your DVD, and the player itself — the actual piece of home-entertainment equipment — will be responsible for inserting pulldown if necessary.
The question you're asking isn't whether your timeline should be interlaced or not. The question you're asking is whether you should conform your 60i footage to 60p, or conform your 60p footage to 60i.
There's no easy answer in this case, because you're not just conforming timebases. You're also scaling. You're taking 720p60 and 1080i60 footage down to 480. That means you're going to be destroying any field structure in your HD footage anyway, by scaling it down.
Since none of your source footage is p24, it makes no sense to work at 23.976. Since DVD only supports 480p24 and 480i60, that leaves you with just one practical option.
So the bigger question becomes at what point you should conform everything to the same size and timebase. My gut tells me you're going to get the best results by running all your 720p60 and 1080i60 footage through Compressor, with frame controls on, and having it scale everything down to 480i. (You didn't say whether your finished product will be anamorphic or not; whether you go anamorphic or pan-and-scan to 4:3 or letterbox is up to you.)
You might try doing a test. Set your timeline to 480i60 (either anamorphic or not, depending on what you prefer) and drop in some 480i60, 720p60 and 1080i60 footage. Throw some transitions across cuts, whatever you think you're going to be using in your show. Render it all out to ProRes with your render settings set to best. Put it on DVD, see what you think of it. It might be entirely satisfactory.

East setup and anamorphic.

Just upgraded FCP 4.5 to 5. I watched the DVD Video that came with it and it says to set up for DV-NTSC Anamorphic. I shoot regular Mini DV. Is there a reason Apple is saying to set up for Anamorphic and not DV-NTSC? If I do will I have any problems with capturing regular DV. Never dealt with Anamorphic and I can't get a handle exactly what it is. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Bob

I believe you misunderstand the situation.
DV-NTSC anamorphic (16:9) is something that you RECORD the original video in the camera. If you have shot your footage that way, you simply check the anamorphic block when you bring the footage in. If you are shooting standard (aka 4:3) DV-NTSC forget the whole thing.
x

HDV compression not letterboxing

Howdy, folks!
I've searched the boards here, but am unable to find the answer to my question.
I'm shooting HDV footage, capturing and editing fine, but when I try to output to SD w/ letterboxing, as is requested, the video is always squeezed. What the heck is going on?
Sequence settings: 1440x1080 (HD 16x9; Pixel Aspect Ratio is HD (1440x1080) and anamorphic is NOT checked; QT Settings for Compressor are HDV 1080i60
Thanks, ahead of time!

I misspoke. The footage is P2 size (960x720) and the sequence settings are appropriately HD 960x720 (16:9) w/ a Pixel Aspect Ratio of HD 960x720 and Anamorphic is NOT checked. The QT Video Settings are DVCPRO HD 720p60. There is absolutely no problem editing the footage with these settings.
I've tried toggling Anamorphic, exporting "use Letterboxing if necessary", in the QT Export settings I'm using DV/DVCPRO - NTSC w/ dimensions of both 4:3 and 16:9 and a size of the same. None of this seems to letterbox the final output.
What I mentioned previously was a sequence issue when either dragging or pasting the footage into a 4:3 sequence - somehow half the footage letterboxed in the timeline, yet the other half became squished.
Two problems, neither of which I can figure. You guys are definitely putting me on the right track, and I appreciate it! Any thoughts on this new info?

Output to 16:9 for iPod

When I use Convert using Quicktime, I have difficulty getting it to preserve the 16:9 HDV 1080i format for output.
Basically I want to create a .MOV file with the correct apsect ratio for download from the web. I also want to generate another .MOV file for the corresponding PodCast.
When I use the converter in FCP, it compresses the image into 4:3.
In the Sequence Settings the 16:9 ratio is displayed but Anamorphic is NOT checked. Do I need to check that and if so, will I need to do this with each new 16:9 project?

Bob -- try this workflow on a small piece and see if it doesn't work for you...
File - Export - Quicktime Conversion - make sure it's set for Quicktime Movie export.
Change compression method to BROADBAND HIGH. THEN click OPTION and then SIZE... change size to 480x270 and click out to save.
Let it run.
Then, open THAT in iTunes and using iTunes, select the video file and right click (control-click) and choose 'convert for iPod.'
That's always worked for me.
When you are done, do another right click on the video file in iTunes and do a SHOW FILE IN FINDER (or something like that.) Look for the .m4v file... that's the iPod video one. Open it up and see if it isn't 16:9.
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