4-pole Minijack-toRCA? (Digitally connect Audigy 2 SZ to Inspire 5500 speakerset)

Hello forum/Creative,
After searching and searching, I'm just confused. And I'm quite an audiophile and I know quite a lot about cable and connections. I still have a problem getting (Dolby) Digital from my Audigy 2 SZ card, to my Creative 5500 (Digital) speakerset. There's a couple "paradoxes" if you will so I hope someone (of Creative) can explain this to me.Because my situation is different than everything I read before.Now the "problem" is that the 5500 digital speakerset uses an external Dolby Digital decoder that is connected to the subwoofer by a DIN-to-DIN cable. Then there are the 3 minijacks (output) that connect from the decoder to the sub. (This also enable volume control per channel via the external decoder/remote) Then there's a coaxial (digital) input that goes from the decoder to any digital out source, which at first was at the coaxial out of my DVD player, which gave the Dolby Digital 5. channel sound as it should. No problem so far.But then I bought an Audigy 2 SZ card for my pc and the problems is that the Digital Out of this card is not a coaxial one, but a minijack output.Strangly however, the 5500 speakerset includes a minijack-to-rca cable, so I can connect the coaxial input on the decoder to the minijack digital out of the Audigy 2 SZ card. Then I got just front L/R channels. I realized the included cable was a 2-pole minijack, with one ground connection and audiostream (Front L/R) What I need is a 4-pole Minijack-to-RCA (. ground 2. Front L/R 3. Rear L/R 4. Sub/Center) , but I dumbfounded so far and I wonder if this cable even exists. After looking in the manuel again and checking the Creative forum and other audiofora, all I can see is a 4-pole minijack-to-DIN (digital din)Here'smy problem with that:st of all my external decoder is connected to the subwoofer via a DIN-to-DIN cable. So if I would get that 4pole Minijack-to-RCA my external decoder becomes nothing more then a nice piece of decoration. Since power from the sub goes to this decoder via the DIN cable (do I wonder if it's a Digital DIN at all)But since this decoder is also used to control volume (per channel) and has the infrared remote receiver + Dynamic Mode setting which can only be set via the remote, I would loose all these functions?I know the Audigy 2 SZ has it's own Dolby Digital (EX), DTS (ES) etc, but I don't want the soundcard output alone and not use the external decoder (again, since this decoder does more than just decode alone).Now a 4-pole Minijack-to-RCA would solve all these problems and I REALLY hope these exists. (Should be possible at least).Currently I have unplugged the 3 minijacks-to-minijacks from the external decoder and plugged them into my Audigy 2 SZ card for Analog Surround. But it doesn't sound good (well at least compared to real Dolby Digital) and via this setup I lost volume control (per channel) functionallity of the external decoder.So please help me out on this. I would really appreciate it.Regards,Felix.

P.S. The 4pole Minijack-to-RCA I mention is a female RCA connector to accept the male-to-male coaxial RCA cable. I also noticed the Audigy 2SZ Quick start manual states to hook up 5. digital speakers to use a 4pole minijack-to-4pole minijack, but this is impossible since there is only a coaxial input and minijack output.So a minijack-to-minijack cable is completely wrong. After (again) checking my Inspire 5500 user's guide, I noticed ONLY THIS manual has the ONLY correct solution to hook up the set. The aformentioned 4pole minijack-to-RCA (female).Creative, why do you supply a useless 2-pole minijack-to-RCA for the digital connection of the Inspire Dolby Digital 5500 speakerset instead of the 4pole one?I mean, you buy the Dolby Digital set to get real Dolby Digital sound, but to get that from your own Audigy (2 SZ) card, you need another cable!! (and when you get it, the other cable will never be used for anything else, since it can only transfer the Front L/R signal!!
Message Edited by Felix2 on 0-09-2006 05:43 PM

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http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=46632&vie w=by_date_ascending&page=
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More InfoCreative's Speaker Conectivity Guide: http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowA....aspx?sid=5035
Dolby Surround info: http://www.dolby.com
I hope that clarifies the issue .
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Digital Connections, SPDIF and Dolby Digital (german revision)
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03-08-2007 01:52 AM
Digital Connections, SPDIF and Dolby Digital Info
Übersetzung + Erweiterungen + Revision 03-08-07
Der Digitale Anschluß
Ich habe beobachtet, daß viele Leute Fragen zu den Sound-Anschlüssen haben, daher trage ich hier einige Infos zusammen und erkläre die Unterschiede in der Verwendung der digitalen und analogen Anschlüsse.
Digitale Anschlüsse – S-PDIF & Toslink
Am PC gibt es zwei häufig verwendete digitale Anschlußformate optisch (Toslink) und koaxial (S-PDIF).
Im Prinzip erzielen beide Anschlüsse genau das gleiche Audio-Ergebnis.
Der primäre Unterschied ist das Medium ( das Material ) durch das das Signal übertragen wird. ( Glasfaser oder Kupfer )
!! Update !!
Ein wichtiger Aspekt in der Auswahl von digital-optischen Anschlüssen erklärt sich durch das Vermeiden einer sogenannten „Brummschleife“, d.h. eine elektrisch leitende Verbindung zweier Geräte muß vermieden werden.
( mit Lichtwellenleiter - LWL- z.B. mit dem Anschluß-System Toslink )
In der Elektrotechnik ( Niedervolttechnik ) wird oft der „Negative“ Pol der Spannungsversorgung über das elektrisch leitende Gehäuse ( die sogenannte Masse )geführt. Das spart einerseits einen weiteren Kabelweg ( also Kupfer ) ein und ergibt eine mehr oder weniger wirksame (Ab-) Schirmung. Diese Schirmung soll die elektronische Schaltung vor elektromagnetischen, hochfrequenten und niederfrequenten Störeinflüssen je nach Ausführung der Schirmung schützen.
Üblicherweise besitzt jedes elektronische Gerät eine eigene Spannungsversorgung. Netzteile in elektronischen Geräten unterscheiden sich in der Art der Spannungsumformung, in der Höhe der Spannung, in der zur Verfügung gestellten Leistung, durch verschiedene Bauarten und unterschiedliche Bauteil-Tolleranzen entstehen somit verschiedenste Masse-Potentiale.
Werden solche Geräte durch elektrisch leitende Kabel verbunden, kommt es zu einem Ausgleich der verschiedenen Masse-Potentiale. Ein negatives Ergebnis der Verbindung von TV-Geräten oder PC-Komponenten mit Audio-Komponenten ist oft eine hörbare Beeinträchtigung von Audio-Signalen - ein tieffrequentes Brummen.( auch Brummschleife oder Masseschleife genannt )
Hierfür verantwortlich zu machen ist eine elektrisch leitende Verbindung. In der HiFi-Technik ist das in der Regel ein Koaxialkabel und dessen Schirmung.
Vermeidung u. Reduzierung dieser Störgeräusche Ansätze
!! Der einfache Weg !!
Einsatz einer optischen Signal- / Datenübertragung mit Lichtwellenleiter
- Glasfaser als Trägermaterial
( Einsatz einer Datenübertragung ohne elektrisch leitende Verbindungen )
aufwendige Wege
Einsatz einer Galvanischen Trennung - mit einem Ground-Isolator
(Massetrennung )
+ die elektrische Verbindung der Schirmung wird umgangen
- aber Leistungs- & und Klangverlust(geringere Dynamik)
- Verwendung von ( hochwertigen ) symmetrischen Verbindungen
( „PLUS“ „MINUS“ „Masse“)
+ Trennung der Schirmung an einer „Seite“ des Kabels möglich
[bei Koaxialkabel unsinnig weil eine Ader zerstört wird und
anschließend dieses Kabel wertlos ist ]
- sehr große Anschlüsse
- Profibereich
- Einsatz einer zentralen Spannungsversorgung für alle miteinander
verbundenen Geräte
Nachtrag
Bitte nicht verwechseln mit Netzbrummen - die Einstreuung der Netzfrequenz 50 Hz ( EU ) oder 60 Hz ( US ) in den Audio-Signalweg das ist üblicherweise auf eine nicht ausreichende Entstörung oder(Ab-)Schirmung zurückzuführen ist.
- End - !! Update !!
Einige Vorbetrachtungen
Die traditionelle Ton-Übertragung ist ein unkomprimiertes Signal, es wird in Stereo übertragen.
Wenn du CMSS ( Creative Multi Speaker Surround simulierten Surround Sound ) aus deiner Stereo-Musik erzeugen willst oder der Sprach-Test abgerufen wird ( nur über den Center ) ist der digitale Anschluß ( optisch & koaxial ) unbrauchbar, denn es würden nur die Lautsprecher Front-Rechts und Front-Links angesprochen !! Es wird ein anderer Anschluß benötigt, der die Kanäle einzeln ansteuert.
Für das Format 5.1 ist das die Verbindung über die drei 3,5 mm Klinken-Stecker ( 3 mal 2 Kanäle ) mit der folgenden
Kanalzuweisung 5.1
Front R / Front L + Rear R + Rear L + Subwoofer / Center
Mehrkanalton in Filmen - DolbyDigital (AC3 / DD) oder DTS
Filme auf DVD verwenden häufig ein kodiertes Mehrkanal-Audiosignal, in der Form DolbyDigital ( AC3 / DD ) oder DTS. Bei dem gebräuchlichsten Format 5.1 werden 6 Signale ( 3 mal 2 Kanäle ) in einem digitalen Datenstrom zusammengefaßt und komprimiert = das Kodieren.
Nach der Übertragung des Signals muß aus diesem Datenstrom ein Decoder die entsprechenden Töne trennen und jedem Kanal zuordnen = das Dekodieren.
Drei Varianten der Decodierung sind möglich.
(1) - AC3 / DTS Signal wird zu einem externen Decoder geführt
Genau hier wird der optische / koaxiale Anschluß genutzt. Um diese Variante nutzen zu können, mußt du ein digitales Lautsprecher-Set oder einen Digital-Decoder ( z.B: Digital-Receiver ) besitzen, der die Dekodierung des gewünschten Formats ( DD, AC3, DTS) übernimmt. Für jedes Digital-Format benötigt man einen entsprechenden Decoder – das Handbuch weiß hier oft mehr – welches Format von welchem Gerät dekodiert werden kann !!
Wähle in deiner DVD-Software den zur digitalen Datenübertragung gewünschten Anschluß "S-PDIF"( Koaxial ) oder "Optisch" als Audio-Ausgang.
In den Soundkarten-Einstellungen muß die Option "S-PDIF-Durchschleifen" ( "SPDIF Pass-through" ) eingestellt werden.
Dadurch wird das Audio-Signal von der DVD in digitaler ( komprimierter ) Form direkt an die Digital-Ausgänge der Soundkarte weitergeleitet. Anschließend kann ein angeschlossener externer Decoder z.B. im digitalen Lautsprecher-System oder im Digital-Receiver die Decodierung übernehmen und es entsteht ein „Räumliches Klangbild“.
Bitte merken:
Daß ist der einzige Weg 5.1 Signale ( digital ) über ein koaxiales bzw. optisches Kabel zu übertragen.
(2) - AC3 / DTS mit der Soundkarte decodieren
Diese Variante ist zu verwenden, wenn du keinen externen Decoder / Receiver verwenden willst.
In der DVD-Software wird "S-PDIF" als Audio-Ausgang gewählt und es muß zwingend in den Optionen der Soundkarte "S-PDIF-Durchschleifen" ( "SPDIF Pass-through" ) deaktiviert werden.
Die DVD-Software wird jetzt das ( digitale ) komprimierte Audio-Signal an deine Soundkarte senden und dann werden dort die digitalen Daten decodiert. Die Soundkarte gibt dann die 6 Audio-Kanäle ( bei 5.1 ) über ihre drei analogen Anschlüsse aus ( 3 mal 3,5 mm Klinke ) mit folgender
Kanalzuweisung 5.1
Front R / Front L + Rear R + Rear L + Subwoofer / Center
Es wird in diesem Beispiel also ein 5.1-Lautsprecher-System benötigt, mit der analogen Anschluß-Option von drei Klinken-Steckern.
( also 3 x 2 Kanäle = 3 mal 3,5 mm Klinke )
- die Einspeisung eines digitalen Signals über DigitalDIN, ist mit dem optionalen digitalen E/A-Modulbei möglich ***
- wird hier ein optisches / koaxiales Kabel verwendest, hörst du nur schwache Töne der Front-Lautsprecher R + L
*** Bei Karten der SB073X-Serie verfügt diese Buchse nicht über die Digital-In-Funktion !! zur Unterstützung des digitalen E/A-Moduls )
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(3) - AC3 / DTS mit einer Software decodieren
Wenn deine Soundkarte kein DolbyDigital unterstützt
( wie die SB Live! 24-bit ) und auch kein digitales Lautsprecher-System vorhanden ist, kannst du Raumklang
(Surrsound-Sound ) aus DV-Filmen auch über eine AC3 / DTS fähige Software erzeugen.
Gratis-DVD-Software-Versionen unterstützen diese Funktion häufig nicht, du benötigst dann eine Software-Voll-Version.
Wähle die gewünschte digitale Audio-Tonspur „DolbyDigital“ oder „DTS“, im Audio-Menü einer DVD.
Dann stelle sicher, das in den Soundkarten-Optionen "S-PDIF-Durchschleifen"
( "SPDIF Pass-through" ) ausgeschaltet ist.
Wie unter (2) mußt du deine Lautsprecher mit den drei analogen Kabeln anschließen und nicht optisch oder koaxial !! ( 3 mal 3,5 Klinke )
Kanalzuweisung 5.1
Front R / Front L + Rear R + Rear L + Subwoofer / Center
Generell sind bei zuvor genannten Varianten (1) – (3) auch andere mehrkanalige
Wiedergabeformate möglich.
In Abhängigkeit von der Ausstattung der Quelle also von der DVD. der CD. der TV-Karte, dem Game usw. sind andere Formate z.B. 2.0 / 2.1 / 4.0 / 4.1 / 5.1 / 7.1-Kanal Wiedergabe möglich.
PC Spiele
PC Spiele nutzen normalerweise Technologien wie EAX, die ihren eigenen Surround-Sound, ohne Verwendung von DolbyDigital erzeugen. Selbst wenn dein Lautsprecher-System einen DolbyDigital-Decoder besitzt, ist dieser für Games unbrauchbar. Denn die EAX Verarbeitung findet direkt auf der Soundkarte statt und die Ausgabe der 6 Kanäle ( 5.1 ) erfolgt über die analogen Ausgänge
( 3 mal 3,5 mm Klinke ) ( oder über DigitalDIN, wenn vorhanden *** ).
*** Bei Karten der SB073X-Serie verfügt diese Buchse nicht über die Digital-In-Funktion !! zur Unterstützung des digitalen E/A-Moduls ) [ mehr unten ]
Kanalzuweisung 5.1
Front R / Front L + Rear R + Rear L + Subwoofer / Center
Für Mehrkanalwiedergabe in Spielen benötigst du also Lautsprecher-Systeme mit analogen Anschlüssen oder einen Digital-Receiver mit analogem ( 5.1 ) Eingang.
Wenn du ein optisches / koaxiales Kabel verwendest, dann kannst du nur die vorderen Kanäle ( links / rechts ) hören.
!!! Notiz !!!
X-Box Spiele unterstützen DolbyDigital, wenn du deine X-Box mit einem DolbyDigital-Receiver oder einem digitalen Lautsprecher-System über optische Kabel verbindest, kannst du den vollen Surround Sound nutzen.
Die Sound Blaster Karten der SB073X-Serie bieten neben dem digitalen ( koaxial / extern ) Anschluß über den Anschluss Flexi-Jack auch noch einen weiteren Anschluß, direkt auf der Karte ( koaxial / intern )
Flexi-Jack - DigitalDIN
Wenn du kein digitales E/A-Modul ( Digital I/O-Modul ) benutzen kannst, ist es möglich mit einem Klinke-Chinch Adapter ( RCA-Adapter ), ein digitales Lautsprecher-System oder einen Digital-Receiver digital ( koaxial ) über den Flexi-Jack-Ausgang der Soundkarte zu verbinden. Alle MiniDin bzw. 3,5 mm Klinken-Stecker können in der Mono- oder auch in der Stereo-Ausführung verwendet werden, denn der mittlere / vordere Pin des 3,5 mm Klinken-Steckers überträgt das AC3 / DTS Signal. Dazu benötigt man eine der folgenden Verbindungen
3,5 mm Klinke ( Mini DIN ) auf Chinch - Adapter ( RCA-Adapter )
für den S-PDIF-Anschluß( koaxial ) an Lautsprecher-Systeme mit digitalem Eingang bzw. Digital-Receiver kann man folgende Varianten verwenden
- Klinke-Mono - Chinch-Stecker ( Stecker –Stecker ) ( Favorit !! )
- Klinke-Mono auf Chinch-Mono ( Stecker - Kupplung ) + Chinch-Verbindungkabel
( Stecker - Stecker )
- Klinke-Stereo auf Chinch-Mono ( Stecker - Kupplung ) + Chinch-Verbindungkabel
( Stecker - Stecker )
Das digitale E/A-Modul ( Digital I/O – Modul )
Die Verwendung von optionalem Zubehör Digitales E/A-Modul ( Digital I/O-Modul ) bietet die Möglichkeit der direkten Verwendung eines S-PDIF Verbindungskabels und stellt zusätzlich zum koaxialen Anschluß einen optischen Anschluß ( Toslink ) bereit. Die optische Verbindung kann wie oben beschrieben zur Vermeidung einer Brummschleife hilfreich sein.
Des weiteren wird ( abhängig von der Ausstattung der Soundkarte *** ) ein digitaler Eingang über das E/A-Modul bereitgestellt, der Eingang ist ebenso wie der Ausgang in optischer ( Toslink ) und koaxialer ( S-PDIF ) Bauform ausgeführt.
Achtung !!
( *** Bei Karten der SB073X-Serie verfügt diese Buchse nicht über die Digital-In-Funktion !! zur Unterstützung des digitalen E/A-Moduls )
interner S-PDIF E/A-Anschluss ( für Geräte der SB073X-Serie )
zum Anschluß einer Decoderkarte oder externer Decoder bzw. Lautsprechersysteme mit digitalem Eingang ist ein entsprechender Adapter erforderlich
Bei einigen Modellen ist eine Dekoderkarte im Lieferumfang enthalten bzw. in einigen Regionen als Zubehör erhältlich
Front Panel-Sockel (für Geräte der SB073X-Serie)
2 x 5-poliger Front Panel-Sockel nur für Verbindungen mit einem Intel HD Front Panel Audio-Standardsockel (nur Geräte der SB073X-Serie) Intel Front Panel Audio-Kabels (separat erhältlich)
Anschlusskompatibilität
Ausschließlich Intel HD Front Panel Audio-Standard
Nicht kompatibel mit AC97 oder Intel-kompatiblem HD Front Panel Audio
Einschränkungen
Wenn neben den hinteren Mikrofonen auch Frontmikrofone angeschlossen sind, werden die hinteren Mikrofone automatisch deaktiviert.
Sound Blaster X-Fi E/A-Konsole
Auf der Rückseite Ihrer X-Fi-E/A-Konsole* befindet sich eine sogenannte DIN-Buchse. Um die Funktionen für eine integrierte Lautsprechersteuerung zu nutzen, können Sie an diese Buchse ausgewählte analoge Creative-Lautsprechersysteme anschließen, die über eine Kabelfernbedienung oder eine Audiokonsole verfügen.
So können Sie beispielsweise über den Master-Lautstärkeregler Ihrer X-Fi-E/A-Konsole die Lautstärke der Lautsprecher regeln oder die Lautsprecher stummschalten.
-eof-

Cable to ((Digitally)) connect iPod to Hi-Fi?

Here's the problem: Our back deck is rather old and tends to move abit as people walk across it. When the iPod is in it's cradle in the Hi-Fi, it tends to wiggle quite a bit. So, I'm wondering if I can ((Digitally)) connect the iPod - via a Dock connector - to the the toslink input jack on the back of the Hi-Fi. This would allow me to simply lie the iPod down on top of the Hi-Fi so that I don't have to worry about it toppling off. I'd prefer doing this digitally via the dock connector rather than simply using headphone jack as the output. Why? I'm a bit of an audiophile-neurotic and want to preserve the signal as much as possible. I guess what I'd need is a Dock connector - to - toslink connector cable, but I my Apple Store search turned up nothing.

Hello Syd,
As far as I know, the iPod does not carry any digital signal output with both the headphone jack and dock connector.
Therefore, at the moment you cannot find any iPod dock connector with a digital optical output.
Hope the next generation of iPod will include the digital output as well.
However, you can buy a Airport Express, links it with your computer via WiFi, then you can use a digital cable with both ends of mini-jack digital to connect AirPort express with your iPod HiFi. But it will loss all the remote function.
I have not tried it myself, therefore I am not sure about the sound quality in this way.
By the way, I have bought a GriffinXpressCable (for Airport Express to HiFi), and I will try to have a test later on.

Connect Audigy 2 Value to Recei

I am currently using the digital out from the card and connect to the coaxial input of the receiver. Everything works fine, except when I play DVD on the computer the receiver won't automatically detect the Dolby settings. Also, When I try to test the speakers using the software provided by the sound card, only the front two speakers will work, the other three speakers do not have the static sound coming out of them. Please give me some help on how to set up this correctly. Thanks

chenchr,
Make sure you have disable the soundcard decoder and your DVD playback software decoder(eg. WinDVD). To disable your soundcard decoder, go to the Creative Audio Console application, under decoder tab set it to SPDIF Passthrough. As for your DVD software, go to the audio setting and set it to something similar too.
Also, you can check out this sticky for digital connection usage and limits.
Jason

@ sticky thread "Digital Connections, SPDIF.

Hi there,
In the thread is mentioned it is NOT possible to play games with surround sound over a digital connection because of the GAMES lack the possibility to encode Dolby:
PC Games
PC games usually use technologies like as EAX to create surround sound, not Dolby Digital. So even if your speaker system has a Dolby Digital decoder, it will be of no use when playing games. The EAX processing is done on the soundcard, and the 6-channel sound is output via the analogue (or digital DIN if available). So you still need analogue connections to your digital speakers for games, if you just use an optical/coax cable you will only get the front left/right sound.
(N.B. X-Box games do support Dolby Digital, so if you connect your X-Box to your Dolby Digital receiver/speakers with the optical cable, you can get full surround sound.)
I think this is not quite correct!
X-Box games do not support Dolby, it is the X-Box!
Sure, PC games do not encode their sound in Dolby, but it is the task of the soundcard to do so. Games create surround sound using EAX, directSound and APIs like that.
(by the way: Dolby Digital is no possibility to create surround sound, it is just an encoding of the final signal)
The digital surround sound, computed by the soundcard (that is why I have bought it, to have it create the sound, and not the CPU) is then passed to the digital interface for CL's speaker systems, or converted to an analog signal.
And there, on the soundcard, I am missing the ability to encode Dolby Digital.
There is no way games will provide Dolby, nor would it be useful to transfer the sound from the soundcard to the CPU and back again for this task.
Why is there no card supporting that? Would it be to expensi've?
What about a Sounblaster series like X-Fi Fatalty Pro Dolby?Message Edited by MCsnuffBobbyK on 08-04-2006 09:24 PM

finchy wrote:What?With all do respect Dale-Cl, don't tell pepople bull**bleep** 'cause I can't stand it anymore."This is because it takes much overhead to encode Dolby, and the sound card isn't fast enough to do this."Part me, but my 4 year-old INTERGRATED music chip (NVidia SoundStorm) can encode to Dolby Digital easily. So the X-fi Processor got more MiPS than Pentium 4 and still cannot handle encoding to DD? C'mon, people are not stupid. Every major card from other producer can encode it to DD and the best ones to DTS Connect.How about You are going to write straight that Creative Labs does NOT want pay licences for using above technologies? Even the worse true is better than constant cheating on your customers.RegardsFinch
The nVidia SoundStorm is the same chip as the one in XBox and it is a dedicated HARDWARE encoder. And nVidia doesn't have the license to produce it anymore. There is NO other sound card chip available now that can do hardware encoding. Only CMedia (not like you sayd "every major card") has some chips that can do software encoding, but from my experience with them, the CPU load is important and in games that is bad.Message Edited by SoNic2367 on 08-04-2006 06:50 PM

Is there any difference between the digital connection cables?

Is there any difference between digital connection cables that connect to the back of a computer? I've seen some with two groups of nine pins and a blade. I've seen some with a solid group of 27 pins. I've seen the blade pin and the four pin. I currently run one that has two groups of nine pins with a blade pin. I use it for DVI and it does ok. I wanted to look into the HDMI cable and see how or if things would be different. I bought a cable that has the 27 pin connector with a blade. It physically connects but there is no signal. I checked the monitor and I set it first to HDMI and then tried AUTO. It made no difference. I powered it all down and restarted it all and there was no difference. Do I need to keep looking for a cable that has the same design connection to the PC but has the HDMI connection on the other end. I may have this info wrong. I just know I have two large connections at the time but the last cable I tried had one large connector and one that looked like an advanced USB design. And then is there really any gain between the two as far as video quality or response?

There are several type of connectors/cables with different effect.
VGA
DVI
HDMI
To understand more, I would say please look it up.
Wish you luck,
Karthik
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Digital connection to 5.1 speakers : output on the rear of the ca

I would like to connect a soundblaster card to my Logitech Z-5500 5. speakers, via a digital connection cable. I would like to know if I will need to connect the speakers on the rack that comes with the S.B. X-FI Platinium (front side of the PC), or is it possible to digitally connect the speakers on the sound card itself (rear of the PC)?Thanks in advance for the information,-g

PJC's information is correct and I would only add one bit of information. You will need to configure your DVD playing software for SPDIF output as well as disable the THX certified Dolby Digital decoder on the soundcard. This will allow the signal to be passed through the DVD software and the soundcard so that your Logitech speakers can handle the decoding.
If you would prefer to use the X-Fi's decoder and sound features, you will need to use the analog inputs on the speakers as per Logitech's recommendation in the manual. They intend the other inputs for external devices such as a DVD player. By using the analog inputs, you will have the proper software controls over the Dolby Digital decoding as well as the THX optimization settings.
Daniel

X-fi xtreme audion notebook digital connect

does one know if the digital connection plays 5. on logitech z5500?Thanks

Only if its compressed audio, like AC3 or DTS. The bandwith is not big enough for uncompressed 5. audio like you will see in most games. So it gives only 2-channel audio out if its uncompressed.

Logitech Z-5500 & X-Fi Titanium PCI-E Digital Connection ?

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I have a little problem we want help from you. Logitech Z-5500 speaker creative x-fi sound card with optical connection I want to do. Unfortunately but not sound. I want to use all the multi-channel audio as a feature in. original creative software installed ( Windiws 7 64 bit ) What should I do to make the setting of software for digital connection? I As we have seen in the picture below is the settings of..
? ( DTS & Dolby Digital & THX )
My computers feature :
Software :
Windows 7 64 bit
Power DVD 9
KM Player
Ac3 Filter
K-Lite Codec
Hardware :
X-fi titanium PCI-E sound card
Logitech Z-5500
Toslink Fiber Optic Cable
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B7 first of all iam using the same setup like u z5500 and xfi titanium champion? with optical cable .
so now first u have to enable the dts in encoder then u will get 5. sound from it and if that not working then use analog to test either ur optical cable is dead or speaker or maybe ur xfi ...

Problems setting up a Creative Inspire 5500 Digital 5.1 System

Hello! I've had a problem ever since i've owned my Inspire 5500 Digital system whereby I havent had any functionality from the decoder at all. I have only managed toget it working with my pc however the sound played fine (after a lot of tweaking using the Creative software bundled with my soundcard) however I havent been able to connect any other devices to it, they just dont work! Even playing music on the pc, I cant use the decoder volume control etc. Therefore my dillema is as follows, I have recently built a brand new pc and want to reconnect the Inspire's (correctly this time!), I have the following soundcard: X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Soundcard with the following outputs on the back of the card:
Line Out (Green)Line Out 2 (Black)Line Out 3 (Orange)Optical
Below is a breakdown of inputs/outputs of the Inspire 5500 Digital hardware: Decoder Audio Outputs Front (Green hole)Rear (Black hole)Center/subwoofer (orange hole) Decoder Audio Inputs Analog Line In CoaxialOptical Other Sockets DIN Now im going to list whats on the back of the subwoofer: Power Supply4 pin AC power input Satellite Speakers Inputs Front left socket for front left speaker Front right socket for front right speakerRear left socket for rear left speakerRear right socket for rear right speakerCenter socket for centre speaker Audio Inputs Front (Green)Black (Rear)Orange (Centre/subwoofer) Other SocketsDIN Now im going to list the leads that I have that came with the set (so in theory there should be sufficient equipment to get decoder functionality): x 4 Pin Mains lead x Line In Cable with the three heads on each end (green, Black and Orange) x DIN Cable x Optical Cable(Obviously all the satellite speakers have their own leads that plug into the corresponding ports on the back of the subwoofer) The last set up, I had the following:
The 4 pin mains lead plugged into the back of the subwoofer (this is correct as this is the only mains input)
Satellites connections into their corresponding holes
The DIN lead connected the woofer to the decoder
the Line-In lead ran from my soundcard to the back of the decoder
Where can I possibly be going wrong? The decoder powered up and played pc music however I couldnt control the volume from the decoder. I tried connecting my ps2 (with optical out enabled in the ps2 settings) with an optical lead running from the back of my ps2 into the optical input on the back of the decoder but it didnt work either!
If anyone could please help and give me a step by step guide to simply putting the right wires in the right places, that would be fantastic. Its really doing my head in!!
Thanks again!

Try connecting Your three connections fom your sound card (green/black /orange) directly into your subwoofer inputs (green/black/orange), then, of course, your five speakers into the appropriate outputs on your subwoofer. I have the same setup except, I am using the X-FI Elite Pro which has a built in decoder, and I believe yours does too. Now, you can also look at the top of this page and click on "support". then choose "product documentation", then go through the product finder, then click on the download link, and after agreeing to the terms, choose to save the download to a location of your choice on your hard dri've. now if you just click to open the file it might not load properly, so just in case, right click the folder, and choose "Properties", and on the "general" tab click the tab at the bottom that says "Unblock" button, then click OK, this manual will give you every detailed way?to hook up your speaker system. I hope this helped. Good luck!

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