9.0.1 EXS24 Sampler Instruments issue

After the 9.0.1 update, about half of my EXS24 instruments are now named "sampler instrument" or just "instrument." The presets in the subfolders still have their correct names. None of the factory instruments have this problem, but many 3rd party instruments do. I tried replacing my entire sampler instruments folder with a backup, but the problemis still there. Tried disk permissions, still no go. Any ideas? Trash prefs (I haven't tried that yet, not sure if there are EXS prefs or not...

I noticed the same issue after installing the Logic 9.01 update. Thankfully, the 3rd party instruments still work with EXS24. They still sound as they should (for me, anyway). Unfortunately, the main folder names of the 3rd party instruments are different (as described in the original post) than what I originally created. So, to clarify, "just" the display names to the 3rd party instrumental libraries are at fault. This was not the case for Logic 8.02 (or even Logic 9.0, for that matter). So, it appears that this is a new bug in the latest version of Logic.
All of my instrumental libraries are stored on a separate audio drive. I created "Alias" folders/files that pointed to the audio drive and placed them as originally directed (2+ years ago) in the Macintosh HD drive. In an attempt to figure out a work around to this possible bug, I renamed the "Alias" folders to the 3rd party instruments. It wasn't helpful.
Any suggestions??

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are you sure that the missing samples are in your filesystem? (I.e., did you look in /Library/Application Support/Logic/etc for those specific files?)
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