A new "Read the rules of engagement" plague?

Has someone else recognized the the new phenomenon of someone posting a trivial and/or meaningless question and several respondents finding it worthwile to post something like
Welcome to SDN.
Please read the Rules of Engagement....Your thread will be locked ....blablabla....
Sometimes I think there are a lot of Strange Characters out there
anton.

Hi Vijay,
Yes, I know. Also the person might cross-post after someone has (correctly) answered the first thread.
That is why I do not always delete everything from cross-posted interview question series - but a plausibility check is advisable anyway.
When people stop answering those types of questions, then eventually the folks who are too lazy to search will stop asking them.
Goal => Search first, ask specific questions later!
> Recently it happened once.
Sorry about that. Rules are rules, and currently they are rather strict.
I look very much forward to the day when we can relax the strict moderation again
From what I can tell, the "urgnt" and "plz riward" are now a thing of the past (relatively speaking).
Any other tips or tricks for combating the copy&pasters and the interview questions? They seem to be the hardest ones to crack.
Cheers,
Julius

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I did not Read the Rules of Engagement.

Hi when I want to define company it say as " The data is locked by the user and can be displayed only" .
If i click yes it takes me to the next screen but I can find " NEW ENTRIES" tab to define my own company. For your convenience I am
attaching the screen shots of the error pages. Thanks.
Message was edited by: kishan P

Shravan,
(1) First of all you have to define company and then assign company code to respective company. Then only it would be created.
(2) Next to remove any lock entry t-code NSM12. There one screen would appear. you have to choose which entry you want to delete it will automatically unlock.
let me know if problem solved and award points.
Thanks & regards,
Supriyo

Do you know where is the rules of engagement ? How often do you read It ?

Hi,
Do you know where is the [rules of engagement|https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/x/FgQ] ?
Many people know exactaly where it is, but i noted that major of SCN never read this document.
Today i noted this document link in:
Left box menu in [Community Guidelines|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/communityguidelines] on the folowing pages: [Forum|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/forums] , [Wiki|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki] and [Blogs|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs].
[Expert Forums|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/index.jspa?categoryID=1]
Some Forum has a locked thread like [Welcome and Rules of Engagement|Welcome and Rules of Engagement;
There people that never saw this document before. Others already saw but they never read( this is other problem ).
The SCN is a dinamyc community so the rule can be changed at any moment. How often do you check it for updatings ? We know that the general rule probably won't be changed but new rules can be added !
Wouldn't It be a good idea if this document link stay in All Threads next to link Reply to this Thread or in any place of this page ?
Thanks,
Marcelo Ramos

Hi Marilyn,
Please tell me if I'm wrong but when I see new SCN member or someone that doesn't respect the community's rules I add the one of the following phrase:
"Welcome to SDN Forum. Don't forget to read the [rules of engagement|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/home/rulesofEngagement] !" As the follow [thread|Program with Top includes;.
"Don't forget to close this thread and all yours previous when your question be answered !" As the follow [thread|ABAP or MII;.
"Lets make the SDN better we are responsible for this !" As the follow [thread|want to upgrade GUI to ECC 6.0.;.
"PS.: Others SDN member can use your question resolve their problems, so is important you don't forget to mark this Thread as answered when your question be answered !" As the follow [thread|SAP ECC 6.0 GUI;
I noted that it's working for some people ! mainly for New SCN members !
Best Regards.
Marcelo Ramos

Have the rules of engagement gone missing?

I clicked through to the [rules of engagement|https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement] just now to verify whether or not I should report a post for abuse, and was surprised to see that this is now a blank page. Is this a way of telling us that the rules have been relaxed?
Ethan

The Return of : [Rules of Engagements|http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement]
Working fine
Edited by: Pushkar Patil on Oct 8, 2010 2:21 PM

I was locked because my boss didn't read the rules.

Hi,
I have a requirement where I have to concatenate all the fields of an internal table with a comma separated and need to send the same to app server as a comma separated file.
Please let me know the function module to achieve the same with a small sample code with 3 fields.
All useful answers wud be rewarded. <= read [the rules|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/home/rulesofEngagement] here as well!
Regards,
Vishnu
Edited by: Julius Bussche on Jul 15, 2008 8:50 PM

Look at this example:
TYPE-POOLS: truxs.
DATA: BEGIN OF IT_TABLE1 OCCURS 0,
 field1 LIKE table-field1,
 field2 LIKE table-field2,
 field3 LIKE table-field3,
 END OF IT_TABLE1.
DATA: IT_TABLE2 TYPE truxs_t_text_data.
*After filling the table IT_TABLA1 with data
*Convert the table to CSV
CALL FUNCTION u2018SAP_CONVERT_TO_CSV_FORMATu2019
 EXPORTING
 i_field_seperator = u2018,u2019
 TABLES
 i_tab_sap_data = IT_TABLE1
 CHANGING
 i_tab_converted_data = IT_TABLE2
 EXCEPTIONS
 conversion_failed = 1
 others = 2.
IF sy-subrc <> 0.
 MESSAGE ID sy-msgid TYPE sy-msgty NUMBER sy-msgno
 WITH sy-msgv1 sy-msgv2 sy-msgv3 sy-msgv4.
ENDIF.
*Downloading the table
CALL FUNCTION u2018GUI_DOWNLOADu2019
 EXPORTING
 filename = u2018C:\table.txtu2019
 TABLES
 data_tab = IT_TABLE2
 EXCEPTIONS
 FILE_WRITE_ERROR = 1
 NO_BATCH = 2
 GUI_REFUSE_FILETRANSFER = 3
 INVALID_TYPE = 4
 NO_AUTHORITY = 5
 UNKNOWN_ERROR = 6.

D = Did not read the rules.

HI ALL,
IAM FACING PRBLEM IN IDOCS IS NOT GETTING 53 STATUS PROPERLY.
STRUCKED IN 64 STATUS . EVEN DEFING WE20 IN PP SETTINGS AND DEFINE TRIGGER -IMMEDIATELY.
PLS GIVE ME SOLUTION THERE IS ANY OTHER WAY?
Edited by: Julius Bussche on Jul 15, 2008 9:12 AM

Hi,
Execute the program RBDAPP01 by giving the idoc number as input. Then the IDOC will be processed and you will get a different status than 64.
Thanks,
Mahesh.

Firefox will not let use any checkboxes on any sites, like when you read the rules and want to check the acceot checkbox. We just started using firefox alot because IE is running incredibly slow on our computer. Any ideas

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Many of your points are totally legitimate.
This one, however, is not:
…To put it another way, the design of the site seems to be geared much more towards its regular users than those the site is supposedly trying to "help"…
The design and management of the forums for more than five years have driven literally dozens of the most valuable contributors and "regulars" away from the forums—permanently.
The only conclusion a prudent, reasonable person can draw from this state of affairs is that Adobe consciously and deliberately want to kill these forums by attrition—without a the PR hit they would otherwise take if they suddenly just shut them down.

Did not read the rules

hi experts in datadictionary we will give some validation of field using domain & dataelement plz explain me
Edited by: Julius Bussche on Jul 17, 2008 10:48 PM

Hi
for giving validations in data dictionary..
go to domain of a data element..
and there will be a tab value range..
u can give the validations there according to ur requirement.
three ways to do it..
one is fixed values- here u can put fixed values from which one can choose..
second is intervals- here one can choose from intervals like 1 to 100
third is value table- here u can select values from another table all together..
kindly Reward points if it is helpful

:O Rules of Engagement --- 2005-02-25

SDN has now introduced a <a href="/people/mark.finnern/blog/2004/08/03/announcing-the-contributor-recognition-program Recognition Program</a>. Which in short text means that for each question you have 10 points, which can be given to the person that answers your question.
Why worry? But at the end of the day, all of us are human, and a small recognition goes a long way. This way, you win in getting a good answer. The person answering gets that warm feeling of having helped and with enough points gets a small reward.
SDN is a community that lives for and from its users. Which means when asking a question, you also assume the responsibility to assign the points. Recommended is that you assign 6 or 10 points once to the answer/person that helped you the most. Assign 2 points to everyone that contributed something. See also <a href="https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/Contributor+Recognition">FAQ</a>.
brian mckellar (moderator)

Welcome to the SAP forums. Before you post, make yourself first familiar with the rules of engagement.
Disclaimer: This is NOT a support channel. For urgent problems, especially if it concerns your business, SAP Service Channel is the only way to go! If the place where your problem gets logged and tracked, where there are escalation processes available, and where we can involve different groups as appropriate to get a problem solved. Problems can and will only be handled via SAP Service Channel, not in this forum.
Step 1: Finding your answer
Rule number one: Try to find the answer first. There are tons of resources out there, show that you have tried to find the answer. A question that shows that the person is willing to try and help themselves is more likely to be answered than one which simply demands information. Tell us what you have tried to solve the problem yourself - often we can learn from that too!
Search the forums, the articles, the blog posts and the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) in the WIKI ( https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki ) for your topic.
Step 2: Asking a question
Once you have verified that no resources are available solving your problem, ask your question. Do the following:
- Use a good subject line
The subject header is your golden opportunity to attract qualified experts' attention in around 50 characters or fewer. Don't waste it on babble like "Workflow question". As we all have busy jobs, often we just skim through the list headings and read those that interest us. Also, DO NOT reply to an unrelated post to ask a different question. This confuses those reading the thread and may lose people that would be interested in your question. Always start a new topic with a new mail.
Bad subject: Urgent problem with workflow
Good subject: Error after transport: "Inconsistent workflow definition"
Do not use any of the words urgent, quickly, burning, etc in your message. Especially not in the title! This just irritates and does not help you to get to your goal. From our side, we definitely not answer faster, nor better when we see these hot words.
The same for such things as ??? or !!! in appends. In English language one ? or ! is sufficient to terminate a sentence.
- Only one question per posting
For each question that you have, make a separate posting. Don't ask multiple question in one pisting, this is confusing for people and might not get answered, as the subject line is not reflecting all your problems. If a new and unrelated question comes up during a thread, start a new thread.
- Provide enough information.
For starters, please tell us which version and type of system you're working on - e.g. SAP R/3 4.6C or SRM 4.0 (EBP 5.0). If your question is regarding an error, include the message. If it is a request for info, please be specific. Questions such as "How do I administer workflow" are vague, tell us exactly what you want to know - "I'm the administrator, how do I forward work items to another agent?". If it's a big query, rather break it down into separate questions.
- Re-read your query before submitting it.
Put yourself in a reader's position - does the question make sense? Can I understand the problem? Is this enough information to be able to answer the problem?
This is a very valuable technique, because many questions end up answering themselves when you read them carefully. It also leads to better questions. Many list readers like good questions, especially if they are thought-provoking and thus help all of us understand things better. This is one of the main reasons many experienced consultants read the list regularly.
- Why is nobody answering my question?
There may be variety of reasons:
1) never assume that you are entitled to an answer. Remember: this is a community forum; the people on the list have jobs just like you and respond voluntarily. Perhaps nobody knows the answer.
2) Did you let other users enough time? Don't be impatient. If the question is urgent, go to the official support channel.
3) Is your subject misleading, your post in the right forum or your problem description understandable?
Step 3: Give feedback and an update
Lastly, it's also nice to follow up with a brief update if you have found the solution. People may try to help not because they know the answer, but because they are interested in solving the same problem; or people may just encounter the same issue in the future and be searching the archives. It's a good way of giving back to the community, irrespective of whether you are a beginner or an expert.
Step 4: Thank others by giving points
SDN has now introduced a <a href="/people/mark.finnern/blog/2004/08/03/announcing-the-contributor-recognition-program Recognition Program</a>. Which in short text means that for each question you have 10 points, which can be given to the person that answers your question.
Why worry? But at the end of the day, all of us are human, and a small recognition goes a long way. This way, you win in getting a good answer. The person answering gets that warm feeling of having helped and with enough points gets a small reward.
SDN is a community that lives for and from its users. Which means when asking a question, you also assume the responsibility to assign the points. Recommended is that you assign 6 or 10 points once to the answer/person that helped you the most. Assign 2 points to everyone that contributed something. See also <a href="https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/Contributor+Recognition">FAQ</a>.
SDN is place where developers meet other developers. One takes the time to see the problems other developers are facing, the time to read possible solutions (to learn), and maybe one day the time to answer some questions.
Text in this message was borrowed from
- <a href="https://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.sdn.businesscard.sdnbusinesscard?u=s1ett4b5nss%3d">brian McKellar</a> and the BSP forum
<a href="/people/mike.pokraka/blog/2005/07/17/sap-business-workflow-faq Workflow User Group FAQ</a> by [url=https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.sdn.businesscard.sdnbusinesscard?u=xbzpqlwvluy%3d]Mike Pokraka[/url]

What are the rules regarding posting of exam questions?

What are the rules regarding posting/discussing specific exam questions?
I just read the Rules of Conduct and I'm wondering if posting exam question falls under unauthorized information disclosure and if it somehow violates the confidentiality of SUN information as stated in
[CONFIDENTIALITY OF SUN INFORMATION|http://www.sun.com/termsofuse.jsp#g2_2]

jwenting wrote:
That would be completely useless, as the questions are chosen semi-randomly from a large collection of questions so the topicspread you get may well be completely different from what someone else gets.
Of course there is probably a pretty well balanced mix, so going flat out on one topic to the exclusion of all else is sure to make you fail :)And those sorts of "hints" are also useless because they only really talk about the posters weaknesses. For example I might say "study Generics!" because that was the section of the exam I did the poorest in, but if you are solid with generics and weak with threading that won't do you much good.

Please read "The Forum Rules of Engagement" before posting! HOT NEWS!!

Welcome to the SDN ABAP Development Forums!
Please see the [Forum Rules of Engagement|https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement] before posting to avoid potential problems (e.g. your posts are deleted).
The [ABAP Development Forums|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/category.jspa?categoryID=42] have dedicated forums for the following ABAP related areas:
=> General questions about the ABAP language and language implementations. If in doubt, use this forum and do not cross-post.
=> Tables, views, structures, data elements, domains, search helps and types in the underlying relational database.
=> SAPscript and Smartforms form generation, editing and printing and the corresponding programs.
=> Classical Dynpro, Screen Painter and Controls Framework (ALV grid, Table Controls).
=> Enhancing ABAP code through techniques as CMOD, SMOD and the newer BADIs, Switch and Enhancement Frameworks.
=> Code quality, ABAP Unit, Testing, Debugging, efficient code techniques and database reads, SQL trace tools and Runtime Analysis.
=> Data Transfer Techniques, Batch Data Communication, Legacy System Migration Workbench, Application Link Enabling, IDOCs, BAPIs.
=> ABAP Object definition and implementation including encapsulation, interfaces and inheritance in ABAP Objects.
Please...
- Use the correct or most appropriate forum,
- Do not cross-post or multiple-post, and
- Search for information before asking basic questions, again.
Using these categories will enhance performance in the forums and improve the chances that your questions are answered quickly and more accurately!
Other relevant blogs and rule related infos are:
- Michael Schwandt's blog about [Moving to strict rules to improve quality and control|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/10047].
- Michael Schwandt's blog about [Quality: Invitation To Clean Up Your Forum Threads|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/11978].
- Please follow-up on your threads and assign points correctly, as this also contributes to the [UN Food Program|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/7898].
Enjoy the forums and happy posting!!

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Sometime i found very difficuties and time taking process in putting questions in forum bcos i have to elaborate the whole pictorial process in words.
Why Cant we make our this forum more Interactive in way of asking questions by allowing us to attach print preview of what we face in the system.
If you kindly give a glance on this issue and try to implement it for us, forum members like us will be benefited and it will be beneficial for those who are all into in this forum.
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Hi there,
I am using GRC Compliance Calibrator and have downloaded the default Global rules defined in Compliance Calibrator using the Rule Architect -> Utilities->Export rules.
This gave me a massive txt file with a lot of tables and data. Reading through this forum, I did figure out that lines starting with M are the header rows for the tables and D rows are the data rows.
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On the "SAP Manufacturing" (space) Overview page, the link labeled "The SCN Rules of Engagement" leads to http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-18590, which for me is "Unauthorized" - "Access to this place or content is restricted. If you think this is a mistake, please contact your administrator or the person who directed you here."

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