Adding People in PSE 11 Organizer

I've just started using PSE 11 Organizer and tried to add some of my pictures to People. I selected several photos in the Media Room and then clicked the Add people button. After a brief time, a dialog momentarily appeared and then immediatly closed and a ghost message appeared saying "No new people in your selection". I tried other different selections but all with the same result. I checked the People tab and there are no people listed there. What am I doing wrong?

Go to:
Edit >> Preferences >> Media Analysis
Ensure People recognition is switched on.

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Adding People to an Organization

In the address book I can create a new "Organization". However, when I click the "People" tab (while creating or editing the organization) I see no way to add people/contacts to the organization.

Well, that does seem to work. Seems like a strange design though. Seems like you would create the organization and then have an "Add" button on the organization's "People" tab, similar to how you add people to a "group".
I also noticed that if you edit a person, go to "Advanced", and type something in the "Organization" field (which is how I am interpreting your suggestion), it will actually create that organization if it doesn't already exist. So, make a slight typo when adding an organization name to an existing person and you create a 2nd organization...
Again, seems like a very strange design. But THANK YOU for your reply! At least I have a way to make it work now.
Originally Posted by dzanre
dietzgw wrote:
> In the address book I can create a new "Organization". However, when I click
> the "People" tab (while creating or editing the organization) I see no way to
> add people/contacts to the organization.
In my experience, it happens from the other direction. I.e., if you edit people
and put the organization name in the organization field, they will show up in
the organization object.
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PSE 9 Organizer Error Adding Keyword Tags and Other Woes

Hello, everyone. I am having a ton of problems with PSE 9 Organizer. The most frustrating and biggest problem is that I believe my catalog has been corrupted beyond repair. I spent all of yesterday tagging my photos. I had no problems and everything seemed to be going well until all of the sudden, the organizer suddenly froze up. I had to use the Windows task manager just to get it to close. This happened several times. Finally, the organizer locked up my computer and I had to restart. I opened the catalog and didn't seem to have any problems at that point. I was able to view all of the images, video files etc. I was even able to open the editor from the organizer. When I tried to add a tag to a photo it gave me an error. All it said was "error adding keyword tag" then nothing. I tried to delete the photo and all it said was "error deleting photo". This "error" shows up any time I try to make any changes to all of the images. I can't add any new photos, can't delete, or add tags. I have repaired the catalog several times. It found errors the first time, but evidently that didn't fix my problem. I also optimized and deleted my thumbnail cache to see if that was the issue. Still nothing. I have other catalogs and they work fine, so it is something to do with this particular catalog. Any suggestions on what to do next? Can I move the pictures to a new catalog without losing the tags? And no, I didn't write the tags to the images because I wasn't done tagging. Besides, PSE doesn't always write the tags correctly, as you probably know. Next problem. When I first open PSE and select the organizer, it doesn't alway open. I can see it on my taskbar (Windows 7 64 bit), but I can't get the window to maximize. I have to close and open several times to get the window to open. Sometimes it randomly jumps to my second monitor like it can't decide where to go. Very frustrating. I would appreciate any suggestions about what to do. Thanks.

Back to the original question, after thinking about this for a couple days I have had two ideas for workarounds:
1) Copy my tag names into the photo metadata and create a new catalog to bring all of my images into. This will allow me to keep all of my existing tags, and it MIGHT solve the tag display problem based on a test with a couple images in a new catalog. The downsides to this are a) permanently writes my tags into the photo metadata which will be bad if I decide to change something later, b) loses all version sets, and c) loses all albums (although I don't have that many). I found instructions for this workaround at http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#_Merging_Catalogs.
2) Live with the lack of color tag display in Organizer, and use reverse searches to find missing tag categories. For example, if I want to find all photos that do not have a "Places" tag, I check the box next to the "Places" category (which also selects all sub-categories and tags below this). Then I go to the Options drop-down in the Find Bar and "Hide best match results" and "Show results that do not match". This gives me every image in my catalog that does not have a tag from the "Places" category, so I can go through and tag these as appropriate.
I would have gone with #1 if it weren't for the permanence of the keywords. I guess I have a commitment problem (or I just haven't got my tag hierarchy figured out yet). Instead, I am going with #2 which should give me most of what I need for now. I will still hold out some small glimmer of hope that Adobe manages a fix for this issue down the road.

PSE 12 Organizer Problem with , Media, People, Places, on top of Screen

Thanks for your help. On the top of the Organizer in 12, it has tabs for Media, People, Places, Events. They all have stacks sorted by name. However only in the Events tab, does it show the photo of the first picture in the stack. The other Tabs don't show a photo of the first picture in the stack. How can this be corrected?

Please double click a people stack and move the switcher "Faces|Photos" to Faces side. This switcher appears on the left corner just above the media grid.
Here if you can see some marked faces, right click >Assign an profile picture.
If generic faces are shown, you need to see individual images and name face rectangles in them as explained here-http://helpx.adobe.com/elements-organizer/using/adding-people.html
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Andaleeb

People Recognition working inconsistently in PSE 12 Organizer using Win 8.

People Recognition working inconsistently in PSE 12 Organizer using Win 8. Problem same as indicated in other earlier or same version of PSE using earlier versions of Windows posts. Does any one have a solution ? - cannot find Mr and Mrs Breeze!!

People Recognition working inconsistently in PSE 12 Organizer using Win 8. Problem same as indicated in other earlier or same version of PSE using earlier versions of Windows posts. Does any one have a solution ? - cannot find Mr and Mrs Breeze!!

PSE 11 Organizer - depressingly junky software

After rebuilding all of my 90k pics into a new structure, PSE 11 organizer now comes up, I leave it alone, and it crashes. Over and over again. It covers up its tracks like a little boy stealing in a candy store. Why isn't someone fixing bugs in this thing? At LEAST when it crashes, it could put out an error message, then a bug report could be written and then maybe, just maybe it could be fixed.
I just rebuilt the entire catalog, placed all my photos into folders by years because PSE had become completely unusable. Now, again it is a basket case.
This is the single most troublesome piece of software I have had the misfortune to buy. Windows 7, 16GB RAM, two HD's with over 200GB free. I solicit your ideas or whatever you care to say about how you feel about PSE.

I bought Lightroom two years ago when I thought Organizer was less than I wanted. I still use Photshop and Premier Elements but have not looked at Organizer for a long time. From my point of view, Lightroom and Elements are made for people with my kind of budget and work wonderfully together.

How do I tag people in PSE 11?

How do I tag people in PSE 11?

Click on the menu bar:
View >> Show People in Tag Panel
PSE11 introduced the new people icon. In earlier versions they were the same as keywords. It is possible to merge them but it involves a bit of manual work.The easiest method is to simply drag the new people icon to a batch of selected photos with the old tags.
Start by ensuring the people icons are displayed at the bottom of the right-hand panel under the Media tab. If you cant see them as a list go to the top menu:
View >> Show People in Tag Panel
Then click on the right pointing icon to the left of People Tags to expand the list and you can also use the plus and minus symbols to add or remove people icons.
Now scroll to the top of your keywords and choose a persons name that was imported by clicking on the chevron to the right of the highlighted (people) keyword. Press Ctrl+A to select all the photos of that person or use Shift+Click on the first and last. Now drag the new people icon for that person on to one of the thumbnails and it will be added to all the selected photos.
Return to the top of the keyword list and right click on the old person tag and choose delete. That will remove it from all photos with that word.

PSE 10 Organizer vs. Lightroom 4 vs. iPhoto vs. Aperture vs. King Kong

Sorry about the King Kong deal. Got carried away.
1. How does the new PSE 10 Organizer compare to Lightroom 4? I have had issues in the past with the PSE Organizer, so much so that I have always abandoned it. On the other hand, I have never been disappointed by the PSE Editor. It is by far my pixel editor of choice.
With that in mind, I plan to continue to use PSE10 as my primary editor. How well does it integrate into Lightroom?
2. Versions/Stacks - (Still waiting for the download of the trial...) Do I understand correctly that PSE10 creates new files and stacks them automatically as version when editing? The way it makes it sound, every time I press Ctrl-s (Cmd-s), PSE saves the file as a version in a stack. I love this idea. Do I understand this correctly?
3. Reference 2 above -- what does this mean when I use PSE as an external editor in Lightroom or iPhoto? (Do these programs that fire up PSE understand these version?)
4. Those databases. Does PSE keep any edit info in databases? I'd rather have 10 versions of one image, than 1 version and the other 9 stored in a database of adjustments. (I've lost too many databases. Lose one file, lose a million edits/adjustments.)
5. Cross-platform support. I know PSE comes in Mac/Win versions. But can I now have one set of data on a server and access it from both the PC and Mac?
Thanks in advance,
-Jack

1. Lightroom integrates well with the PSE editor. In fact it will be automatically recognized as an external editor if you install Lightroom. It’s much more stable and powerful than organizer and you can search virtually any metadata field. The main benefits of LR4 derive from its CS6 raw engine although it will also process jpegs and other formats on a non destructive basis.
2. Cmd+S normally overwrites the file. Use Save As if you want to add to a set.
3. Lightroom let’s you make virtual copies so you only have one file on the hard drive, except when you do further editing in Elements, when Lightroom makes an export copy and a thumbnail in its library.
4. Elements does not keep any edit information in it‘s database.
5. You can keep image files on external storage, but the application needs to be on the main machine. Be aware that Windows and MacOSX will use different file paths so it will take some effort to keep things synchronized. Many people use a laptop when traveling but then import their work to a main catalog.

PSE 11 Organizer automatic update

Has anyone out there had a problem with the PSE 11 Organizer starting an automatic update when you open the program? This happens even when I have just minimized the screen and left the Organizer open. Yesterday it remained in the update status for more than six hours during which time PSE 11 was frozen and I couldn't do anything in it. I finally had to terminate the program with the task manager, shut down my computer and start all over again. I'm beginning to get annoyed and would really appreciate hearing from someone with Photoshop.

Claude J wrote:
Has anyone out there had a problem with the PSE 11 Organizer starting an automatic update when you open the program? This happens even when I have just minimized the screen and left the Organizer open. Yesterday it remained in the update status for more than six hours during which time PSE 11 was frozen and I couldn't do anything in it. I finally had to terminate the program with the task manager, shut down my computer and start all over again. I'm beginning to get annoyed and would really appreciate hearing from someone with Photoshop.
You will find that most people here are likely to have Photoshop Elements of some ve3rsion; this aside, if you are on a windows system, then you should be running as "Standard User" not as Administrator or a user with administrator privileges. this way Adobe updater cannot update your system without prompting you to login as Administrator.
Also, if I can remember correctly, Adobe Updater has a small checkbox that you need to tick to make sure Adobe notifies you of update before downloading anything automatically. I can't produce this now because I don't have any update outstanding but if I find a way to replicate this I'll post back.
For now make sure you work as Standard User in a windows system so that you are protected not only from Adobe updates but also from Microsoft updates and from hackers and scammers who all like to install their small piece of software without your knowledge.

PSE 8 Organizer take 60+ seconds per task

Most everything I do in the PSE 8 Organizer seems to take 60+ seconds to complete.
When I move a tag from one sub-category to another, 60+ seconds.
When I delete a picture from the catalog, 60+ seconds.
When I add a new face tag in a photo, 60+ seconds.
It doesn't seem to matter if I have 940 photos or 140 photos in the catalog.
What is PSE looking for with each task it does?
The only error indication I get is a 'dunk' sound when the Organizer starts up,
(like the sound you get when you click on something you shouldn't click on),
but no error dialog or warning shows up.
Any ideas?
Below is my system info.
System Info for Lenovo T61 laptop with Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 Ghz
Elements Organizer 8.0.0.0
Core Version: 8.0 (20090905.r.605812)
Language Version: 8.0 (20090905.r.605812)
Current Catalog:
Catalog Name: HBIC
Catalog Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\Adobe\PSE 8 Catalogs\HBIC\
Catalog Size: 818KB
Catalog Cache Size: 4.8MB
System:
Operating System Name: XP
Operating System Version: 5.1 Service Pack 3
System Architecture: Intel CPU Family:6 Model:15 Stepping:10 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP
Built-in Memory: 2GB
Free Memory: 1GB
Important Drivers / Plug-ins / Libraries:
Microsoft DirectX Version: 9.0
Apple QuickTime Version: 7.64
Adobe Reader Version: 9.1
Adobe Acrobat Version: Not installed
CD and DVD drives:
D: (Optiarc DVD BUS: 1 ID: 1 Firmware: RW)
Thanks.
Keith Wetzel

John, I have a total of seven people tags and thanks for the advice. It's not a keyword tag issue.
But, hallelujah, I have found the problem! It's the 'Folder Location View'. Stay out of it! It turns a face tagging from a half second task to a 65 second task. It appears that, when in the Folder Location View, after you complete a task like face tagging PSE will then go off and re-read (for 65 seconds) all your Windows folders and regenerate the folder view. When you switch to the Thumbnail View and do the face tag then PSE comes right back immediately. I was able to recreate this scenario several times. Each task I did in Folder Location View took 65 seconds or more. The same task in Thumbnail View takes half a second tops.

Suggestions for PSE 11 Organizer

Greetings from a new member. Not sure how to post some usability suggestions for PSE 11 Organizer, but here goes... I realize others have already posted similar comments, which triggered further discussions. However, my intent is just to bring these simple, but to me important, suggestions to the attention of the developers of PSE 11.
I have used PSE on Windows XP starting with PSE 4, then PSE 7, and very recently PSE 11. Earlier this year, I switched to a Mac OS X system and transferred my photos and PSE 11 catalog to PSE 11 on the Mac. I followed the backup/restore instructions on the PSE support site and am mostly quite happy with the results. However, I’m disappointed that the following usability features of PSE 7 organizer are missing in PSE 11 organizer (on both Windows and OS X). Note that I plan to use PSE on OS X exclusively from now on.
In PSE 7, when right clicking on one or more selected photos, the popup menu listed “View photos in full screen”, but it no longer does so in PSE 11. Although Full Screen is available on the View menu, having it on the popup would be even more useful.
In both PSE 7 and PSE 11, that same right-click popup menu lets you REMOVE selected photos from an album. It would be great if the popup menu would also let you ADD selected photos to an existing album.
In PSE 7, I could display the album list simultaneously with folder hierarchy/tree view (there was no folder list view in PSE 7). In PSE 11, the album list is visible only with folder list view. This makes it impossible to drag photos to an album from folder hierarchy view. Please fix PSE to display the album list simultaneously with folder hierarchy view.
I suggest that the default folder view be folder hierarchy (not folder list). Or even better, let the user choose the default folder view in Preferences.
Starting with PSE 4, I organized my thousands of photos in several main folders and hundreds of subfolders. Many subfolders have the same name, and frequently the subfolder name is a date. Because the PSE 11 folder list view doesn’t show the hierarchical context, folder list view is just clutter and completely useless for me. As recommended in other posts, I do intend to start using tags/events/places and other suggested ways to organize my photos. However, this will be in addition to (not instead of) using folders. I like organizing my photos in folders, just as I like organizing my other files (text, spreadsheet, etc.) in folders. Also, categorizing photos via tags, places, events, etc. is not equivalent to, and does not replace, using folders. For me, categorizing in this manner is an additional usability feature to using folders.
Thanks for listening...

My own answer will be about :
ARJNA wrote:
Starting with PSE 4, I organized my thousands of photos in several main folders and hundreds of subfolders. Many subfolders have the same name, and frequently the subfolder name is a date. Because the PSE 11 folder list view doesn’t show the hierarchical context, folder list view is just clutter and completely useless for me. As recommended in other posts, I do intend to start using tags/events/places and other suggested ways to organize my photos. However, this will be in addition to (not instead of) using folders. I like organizing my photos in folders, just as I like organizing my other files (text, spreadsheet, etc.) in folders. Also, categorizing photos via tags, places, events, etc. is not equivalent to, and does not replace, using folders. For me, categorizing in this manner is an additional usability feature to using folders.
The fact is that the Organizer has been built historically on a database to manage keywords and categories with some additional tools to enable folder browsing and managing. Note that for other types of applications like word processors or spreadsheets, you have the same choice with using keywords or folder structures.
So, where are we in version 12 ? From what I am reading today, I'll risk a few guesses.
- I am convinced that most people relying like you on folder organization don't use the Organizer or have given up using it.
- A great part of the critiques about the Organizer come about people not understanding the idea of catalogs and categories/keywords (I know that is not your case)
- Anoter great part of the critiques is that the implementation of folder organizing in Elements has aliways been lame and buggy.
What's new in PSE12 is that the folder view has been completely rebuilt. And the result is perceived differently depending on your camp : database or folders...
- For Folder tenants, the result is two-sided. They are happy to have the folder view with all trees back - They don't see the point of the folder list - They are not happy with the new interface based on new categories (people, events...) - They miss the link between albums and folders as you have mentionned
- For database tenants, the main advantage is that a lot of bugs have been corrected and that they can use the folders view and folder list as a secondary tool for organizing. The folder list (a feature I had requested) is a great tool for those wanting to migrate from a folder organization to a database one. Usually, the folder names are significant and enable very fast keywording and constitute a powerful search tool.
- For both camps, the common grudge is the loss of alphanumerical sort order in folder view. I don't care personnally, but I think it's necessary for people working on scans.
So, my wish is that the next version of the Organizer can satisfy people like you,so that much more people use and are happy with the Organizer

Can't make an incremental backup in PSE 10 Organizer

I don't understand why I can't make an incremental backup in PSE 10 Organizer. I made my first full backup to my external drive a week ago. Today I tried to make an incremental backup. After selecting Incremental Backup from the file menu, a new screen appears asking for the Backup Path, and so I entered (by selecting) the full path name on my external drive where I made my original backup. But, next, it wants to know the name of the "Previous Backup file." I have absolutely no idea what the program wants at this point. What particular file does it want me to enter as the "previous backup file"?? There are hundreds of files in my backup directory. The backup directly does have a file called "Backup.tly" which I entered, hoping that this is the file it wants, but then I get this error message: "I:\Pictures\Adobe\Backup.tly does not contain a backup set for the current catalog. Please locate the last backup you made for this catalog." What am I missing here?
Many thanks for your help,
Jeff

Hi Jeff
Once you have a full back up you can make incremental back ups but you need to follow a set routine. It’s not very intuitive.
Start by creating a new folder or label a new CD/DVD Disk - it’s best to use dates e.g. “PSE10 incr backup 2012-0104”
Press Ctrl+B and check Incremental, then click Next
Highlight your drive containing the last backup and click the bottom Browse button (previous back up file) then navigate to the TLY file and click open.
Click the Browse button above and navigate to your new folder “PSE10 incr backup 2012-0104”
Click Done.
If your full backup originally contained 500 images, the incremental backup will only contain changes since the last backup e.g. files B000501.jpg, B000502.jpg etc
If you ever have to do a complete restore you start with the TLY file from the latest incremental backup. The program automatically recognizes the number of incremental steps and you will be prompted to insert a disc or navigate to the appropriate drive.
Incremental backup’s are obviously much quicker to write to disk but I recommend that you periodically perform another full backup and delete any earlier backups.

Windows 7 will not recognize PSE 8 Organizer on External Drive

Hello:
Background:
We purchased a Dell Inspiron 560 with Windows 7 from BestBuy to replace the Hewlett Packard Pavilion with Windows XP that was showing problems. My present photo software includes Photo Shop Elements 8 and Nikon NX2. (I intend to use PSE 8 for Nikon NEF (RAW) files and NX2 for JPEG files.) Geek Squad (GS) transfered the information that was on the HP hard drive to the Dell. All the icons now show on the Dell except for iTunes. I also gave GS the Photoshop and Nikon disks in case they needed to reload the programs.
The photos are stored on a Western Digital (WD) external drive that was also given to GS to test the transfer. I organized my files according to the "master programs", e.g., Adobe Photoshop 8 and Nikon NX2 with subfolders for the photos themselves. Everything worked fine on the former HP computer.
The situation:
The PSE 8 Edit and NX2 appears to work but not the PSE 8 Organizer. All folders and subfolders and information in the subfolders are present on the WD drive. The Nikon software opens and edits all photos including the photos stored in the Adobe Photoshop 8 folder in the WD drive. I can open a single photo in PSE 8 Edit. But I cannot activate PSE 8 Organizer where the folders and subfolders are. When I attempt to activate the Organizer following the prompts, the following statement appears, "The catalog could not be opened. It is either corrupt, or the version is out of date and cannot be updated." However, I can access them using the NX2 software.
So what do I have to do to activate or reactivate the Organizer? I could transfer the files from the Adobe folder to the Nikon folder using drag and drop, reinstall PSE 8, and then reintstall the files on the Adobe folder.
Or is there a better way?
Please help.
Mp

Without knowing exactly what Geek Squad actually did, its hard to say how to fix this.
Ideally, that way to fix this is to do the following: you would create a backup of your catalog on the old computer. Do this with the Organizer command File->Backup Catalog. Tell PSE to save the backup to the external drive. Then connect the external drive to the new computer, and run the Organizer command File->Restore Catalog.

In photoshop elements 12 i try to select multiple people to view in organize but can only select one

in photoshop elements 12 i try to select multiple people to view in organize but can only select one person at a time. if I try to select two or more people to see their pictures, I get nothing. I try to use CTL-click, but that does not work

Hi,
Try switching to Media view and then go to Find -> By Details.
Set the field to People and select the persons name.
You add further people by clicking on the + sign
The two options above the search criteria allow you to select all photos containing at least one or only ones with all of your selections.
The search can be saved in case you want to repeat it a later time.
Hope that helps
Brian

Unable to edit preferences in PSE 10 organizer

Hi all,
I have searched to see if this topic has been previously posted, so if I have missed it, please forgive me.,,,
Anyone else experiencing not being able to get passed the "loading" msg that appears after attempting to edit preferences in PSE 10 organizer?
Any solutions?
Thx
Teris

Hi
No I am sorry to report no changes to this issue and yes Adobe support still working on it with me.
I will report back if/when it is resolved for sure and I am following this convo string.
This is the latest from tech support suggestions, may it will assist you.
Disable all network connections through Windows options, reboot, then try again?
Physically disconnecting Ethernet and unplug any external drives or devices leaving Keyboard and Mouse. Unplug Printers and scanners too.
The Photoshop.com and Online Services features in the Preferences make calls out to the Internet. Additionally, most of the panels (including the Photoshop.com one) are Flash-based. Flash Player _always_ attempts to connect to the Internet when it first loads, regardless of where it's loading from.
Update Photoshop Elements.
Update Camera Raw.
Uninstall Codecs and Quick time.
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/408/kb408929.html
Use the Windows Basic Theme.
Move the TWAIN file on the desktop.

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