ADFS 3.0 and force password change
I was wondering if anyone knows if ADFS 3.0 supports the AD flag "Force password at first login"? I know 2.0 does not. I have been integrating Shibboleth with my ADFS and a custom login handler but I would really like to not complicate my
setup and use straight ADFS if at all possible. Our ADFS setup would be for a SSO into our on-premise Sharepoint 2010 server. Even if 3.0 returns a error indicating that the password needs changed at least I can then tell the student that and direct
them to our FIM server to have them register and set their password. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Joe
Joe M
Brian,
I understand that Azure Ad won't store password. This is all on-premise servers, nothing in Azure. I see that with ADFS 3.0, if the flag is set to change password at next logon, the user does get a different message than if they just typed a
wrong password. I guess what I am looking at doing is instead of them getting the message that their password is expired, redirect them to our FIM server so that they can register for self-service as well as set their new password. If ADFS 2, the
returned message was the same whether it was an expired password or a wrong password. So ADFS 3 is nice in regards to that. Now it is just a matter of trying to take advantage of that. I thought about maybe creating a relaying party trust to our
FIM with a claim on that attribute but just not sure how to go about doing that at the moment.
Joe M
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How to implement Force password change during authentication
Description of problem
Our client requires web applications to support its internal security policy beyond
normal authentication. This includes:
- force password change periodically. This should be performed at logon time.
- maintain password history so that a new password would not repeat any of its
previous 15 changes.
We already have an authentication server that satisfy these requirements. However,
we would also like to base our solution on WebLogic security framework so that
we can leverage the benefit of the container-managed declarative security (e.g.
we don't need to use our special cookie to check whether a user is authenticated
for every web page in the application). So the best scenario for us is to wrap
up this authentication server using WLS 7.0 authentication SSPI.
My initial investigation of WLS 7.0 security framework (based on edocs and the
sample customer security provider codes) convinced me that overall, this is achievable.
However, I am still left with quite a few questions, which I would like to get
your help.
Questions:
1. (web container) The J2EE-standard container-based authentication is to specify
<login-config> element. My understanding is that only FORM based authentication
is applicable. The specified form elements:
<form method="post" action="j_security_check">
<INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="j_username">
<INPUT TYPE= "password" NAME="j_password">
</form>
is adequate for authentication. However, if the authentication service provider
indicates that password change is needed, what would be the most appropriate way
within WebLogic for the authentication service provider to pass such a flag to
the web container know so that our application can access it? I guess, a simpler
question, would be, using the standard <login-config>, webapp knows only about
authentication fails or succeeds. Can it possibly know more information provided
by the authentication service provider right after authentication?
2) If we don't use standard FORM-based authentication, we will code up our own
authentication control, which could give us a lot more flexibility, but can we
then bind our Subject obtained through our authentication control to the WebLogic
Subject that is running the webapp.
3) (Authentication service provider) Our design is for the custom LoginModule
to delegate login calls to the authentication server, and throws more refined
exceptions such as: FailedLoginException, PasswordExpiredException, UserAccountLockedException
(all subclassed from LoginException). Another approach is to provide detailed
information such as password expired in callbacks. Either way, when Authentication
service provider returns, how our web application can access this refined flag
of authentication result.
4) Can our customer authentication service provider use DataSource defined in
a weblogic server? I ask this question because DataSource itself is a protected
resource of WebLogic. Will referencing it during authentication initiate another
authentication cycle?
Can anyone who has experienced similar requirements and worked solutions please
give me a hint? I appreciate your guidance.
regards
Licheng"Licheng" == Licheng <[email protected]> writes:
Licheng> Description of problem
Licheng> Our client requires web applications to support its internal security policy beyond
Licheng> normal authentication. This includes:
Licheng> - force password change periodically. This should be performed at logon time.
Licheng> - maintain password history so that a new password would not repeat any of its
Licheng> previous 15 changes.
Licheng> ..
Licheng> We already have an authentication server that satisfy these requirements. However,
Licheng> we would also like to base our solution on WebLogic security framework so that
Licheng> we can leverage the benefit of the container-managed declarative security (e.g.
Licheng> we don't need to use our special cookie to check whether a user is authenticated
Licheng> for every web page in the application). So the best scenario for us is to wrap
Licheng> up this authentication server using WLS 7.0 authentication SSPI.
I believe it's impractical to fit the requirement of forcing a password change
into the standard JAAS interface.
I think the only practical way to do this is to implement a servlet filter that
reads the persistent record of the logged-in user to check for a "force change
password flag". If it finds this, the servlet filter will forward to a page to
change your password. Note that the servlet filter may be hit again when
trying to get to the change password page, so it needs to know to not do the
check in that case.
If you implement this, I would strongly urge you to softcode the "change
password" page URL in your system configuration, and not hardcode it in the
servlet filter.
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David M. Karr ; Java/J2EE/XML/Unix/C++
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I've got some scenarios I've been asked to research regarding expiring passwords and preventing account lockouts. We are on Windows 7.
If a user is logged in while their password expires, is it possible to force a prompt to have them change their password before they log out.
If a user's screen is locked while their password expires, is it possible to set a password change prompt when they attempt to unlock?
I guess the theme is how can password changes be forced before a user can get locked out after password expiration???
Thanks,
MattThe only thing you can change is the notification about how many days it is before the password expires.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee829687(v=ws.10).aspx -
Using AnyConnect NAM for wireless and AD password changes
Hi,
I am having a problem with AD password changes and wireless profiles in AnyConnect. Once a user changes their password from their PC and then tries to connect to our WPA2 802.1x wireless it fails to authenticate and I cannot find a way to update the password that works. So we currently delete the wireless profile and create a new one. Is there a way that NAM could pull user/password from login or any other fix. We are also using ACS 4.1. AnyConnect version 3 to 3.0.5080.
Thanks!In your anyconnect profile did you set the "use single sign on credentials"? Also did you try the repair option to see if it works after that (I am not suggesting a solution but for troubleshooting). Does logging on and off the machine help resolve the issue? Does this happen on all workstations?
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/vpn_client/anyconnect/anyconnect30/administration/guide/ac04namconfig.html#wp1166170
Even though this is for user authentication this bug seems like a candidate:
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[solved] KDE Forced password change
Hi, Does anyone know how to turn off the fact that the first login of a new user has to change the password? For some reason that app(change password) is failing and the new users can't login.
thanks in advance
--jerry
Last edited by jk121960 (2012-06-02 18:06:18)adamrehard wrote:
Are you setting the passwords when you create the user?
I can see why KDE would require a password change if one hasn't been set previously.
You also could ask for help trying to fix the original issue, which as I understand it, is that the password change app is borked.
yea the passwords were created when the users were created through the KDE add user utility, I wasn't worried about the change password utility as it is my kids computer. I installed KDE to moce them softly off windows .
thanks
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Is there a mechanism to force a user to change their password after xx days?
Hi Venky,
Yes we are setting the pwdMustChange attribute in OID:
1) Login to oidadmin.
2) Go to Password Management Policy
3) Select Enable from Reset Password upon next time.
Would be great if you can help with this
TIA
Greg -
Why can't I login into my Apple account without being forced to change my password.
I received an email from Apple:
"The following changes to your Apple ID (xxxxxxxxxxxx) were made on 01 January 2015 at 17:52:54 (GMT):
Shipping and/or billing address.
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I cannot go any further than the forced password change screen.
How do I check my account details without changing my password?
I am not happy with being forced to change my password. it almost makes me wonder if I have been redirected to a 'scam' site.How are you trying to log into your account ? You can log into an account :
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- Store > View Account menu option on a computer's iTunes
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All three let you view and/or change your billing address, though only the last you let you view payment details. You could try one of the other methods and see if they let you login without requesting a password change.
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NAC Guest server allow password change
hi,
i see there is an option to "allow password change" or "force password change" for guest roles in the NGS. But when i created a guest account using this guest role, after webauthentication , there is no prompt to change password. Is this the intended behaviour or is there anything else that i need to configure. Looking at it, i am not sure how the NGS would allow a "guest user" to really overwrite the password by allowing password change. ? is that not a security risk as well for the NGS ? my setup has 5508 anchor controller and NGS communicating via RADIUS.
regards
JoeRob,
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The way around it for us was to have the NGS sit on the inside of the network, with a FQDN (fully qualified domain name) that had a public IP address to the outside world, but also a CNAME to an internal address on the inside of the network and ran NAT on our firewall at the DMZ to link the public and private IP together.
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OAM - Force password reset - eDirectory
I have a form based authentication scheme that uses eDirectory. Authentication is working. What I want to do is force all users to change their password upon next login. I set up a password policy and defined my Password Change Redirect URL and Password Expiry Warning Redirect URL but I'm not sure what to do to trigger the system to redirect the user to the password change piece after logging in. Is there some attribute in eDirectory I can set for each user to accomplish this? Any other ideas?
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Regards,
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EDW - setting and enforcing password policies
We would like to force password changes, force stronger passwords, etc. We have set things up this way on the login server password policy screens, but the changes in policy don't seem to be working. (Users with passwords that are identical to their userids are not forced to change their passwords.) Any suggestions?
There is only if there is more than one resource but selecting which resource to change the password on is not the issue. The problem is if I select the check box, indicating that I want to change the password on the resource, the resource password policy is enforced when generating the password, not the user's assigned password policy.
Maybe I'm not describing it well enough. It is a tad complex. Here's the steps I took to get into this situation.
1) Create an low strength password policy
2) Assign the low strength password policy to the resource under the "Identity System Parameters" for the resource. This should enforce a minimum level of password strength for the given resource.
3) Create a high strength password policy.
4) Create an account policy and link the high strength password policy to the account policy.
5) Edit a user and select the "Assignments Tab".
6) Assign the account policy (with the high strength password policy) to the user.
7) Reset the user's password in the admin interface selecting the resource's checkbox.
8) The password generated by IDM is based on the low strength resource password policy, not the high strength policy assigned to the user.
So in theory now, the user has an account policy that in turn has a password policy that is stronger than the resources enforced password policy. The problem is when I reset the user's password (selecting the resource to reset the password on) the user's assigned policy is not used when generating the password. I don't know and can't tell if this is standard behaviour.
Ideally I'd like to figure out a way to force IDM to use the user's assigned policy rather than the resource policy when generating the password.
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I just did the unlink skype account from microsoft account.
(DID I EVER DO THIS??? OR DID SKYPE?????)
I'm still logged in, so that might have worked.
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This started happening to me at a very very akward time (like just before an imporatant call)
YOUR error message to me was to update.
I updated.
Your next error message to me included this Unlink to microsoft account.
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Is there any other way I can get this account back I have hundreds of contacts and groups on it for online gaming and losing it will be a pain ,I can supply names of cotacts and groups that have been used lately on it if this would help
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Windows 7 Expired Password - Recvd Warning prompts but not forced to change password
Our Windows 7 users are prompted when their passwords will expire in 14 Days, however They are not forced to change thier password before it expires. If the users ignore the expiration warning they can only get logged into the network after having the helpdesk
reset thier password.
Is there a way to force Windows 7 users to change thier passwords on the day it expires. Our WinXP users get the 14 day warning and are forced to change thier passwords on day 14.
I have the GPO configured to notifiy users when thier passwords will expire in 14 days
Thank you,
GlenHi,
After applying above settings, the user can change the password by default at the expire day. Please create a new domain profile and test the issue on several Windows
7 machines. Can the user be enforced to change password at expire day? If not, please refer to the following steps to collect the information for research.
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2. On the Windows 7 machine where GPO failed to apply, please perform the following steps to collect log files:
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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Diagnostics
Type: DWORD
Value: GPSvcDebugLevel
Data: 0x30002 (hexadecimal)
b) Then on the problematic Win7 machine, run command “gpupdate /force”.
c) Then on the problematic Win7 machine, run command “gpresult /v > gpr_win7.txt”, send me gpr_win7.txt file.
d) On the problematic Win7 machine, run command “eventvwr”, then expand to Applications and service logs -> Microsoft -> windows -> groupPolicy
-> Operational. Right-click on it and click “save event as”. Save the file as .evtx format and send it to me.
e) After that, please send me the above output files. (please zip them first and then send them to me).
- %windir%\debug\usermode\gpsvc.log
- gpr_win7.txt
- win7.evtx
Please use Windows Live SkyDrive (http://www.skydrive.live.com/) to upload the GPMC
result and the zip files, and then give us the download address.
Thanks,
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