Adjustment brush leaves speckled edge

I've noticed this in LR4 and now in LR5, often times when I just use the adjustment brush to increase or decrease the exposure the edge is speckled. It looks a lot like the "desolve" blending mode in PS. It doesn't happen all the time but it looks terrible when it does. Anyone else experience this or have a solution or at least an explanation?
Here's an example of a photo I took that shows this:
Thanks.

Try unchecking 'Auto Mask.' What are you actually trying do?

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Adjustment brush auto mask broken for 32bit TIFF image

Hello,
I am using Lightroom 4.2 (updated today) on Windows 7 64bit. I have an issue using the adjustment brush with the option "Auto Mask" within a 32 bit TIFF file: the Auto Mask magic there does not work.
I've created 32 bit TIFF files using the "merge to HDR Pro in Photoshop" workflow, where the resulting TIFF is automatically added back to Lightroom. There, I edit the TIFF just in the same way as I edit any other picture in Lightroom. Some of my TIFF files have very clear edges with high contrast. Example:
I assume you agree with me that the adjustment brush Auto Mask must be able to detect this particular edge between the blue sky and the almost black wall of a building. However, when I use the adjustment brush on this edge (no feather, 100 density and flow, show selected mask overlay in green), it does not detect the transition:
When I do the same in one of the RAW pictures that contributed to the TIFF above, Auto Mask works as expected:
I tried this with various edges in various TIFF and RAW files. In the RAW files, basically all edges are detected, while the Auto Mask feature entirely fails in my TIFFs. I've first observed this in Lightroom 4.1. Then I updated to 4.2 which did not change the behavior.
Is there something I can do wrong? Note that in this tutorial: http://tv.adobe.com/watch/the-complete-picture-with-julieanne-kost/quick-tip-creating-32bi t-hdr-images-in-lr-41/ Julieanne Kost is doing exactly this: first she merges a set of pictures to a HDR TIFF and then she uses the adjustment brush with Auto Mask in the resulting TIFF. In the video it looks like the edge detection works properly for her.
Any suggestion is welcome. Thanks!

+1 vote.
Auto-mask has great potential, but is not quite there yet...
I'd like to see a little more control - what exactly you are trying to mask, and what not... - ya now: some tolerances/thresholds for color and luminosity and texture... - and maybe the ability to enhance the edges after the fact.
R

Adjustment brush is only working on the outer edge of all of my photos, why?

I've just downloaded LR 4, watched tutorials but my adjustment brush only works on the outer edge of my photos. The brush changes to an arrow when I move towards the center of the photo. Why?

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Black speckles when using adjustment brushes

I'm having an ongoing issue with Lightroom 4.4 when using adjustment brushes in the development module with RAW files from a Canon 5d Mark III Raw on a retina MacBook Pro running OS 10.8.3 When using the adjustment brush to make exposure adjustments, the adjusted area gets covered with tiny black speckles. I see it when trying to darken down highlights or when trying to lighten shadow areas. The heavier the adjustment, the worse the speckles get. I have taken the same original images and opened them in Photoshop and made similar local adjustments with curves and the images look fine, so it's definitely an error with Lightroom inserting the artifacts. Any suggestions?

Turn off the AutoMask checkbox in the brush options.

I have imported a color picture and trying to use the adjustment brush to turn the background black and white and it isn't working. I have Lightroom 5. Any suggestions?

Hello - I have Lightroom 5. I have imported a color photo. I am trying to use the Adjustment Brush to change the background to Black and White and leave a portion of the photo in color. When I begin painting the photo with the Saturation at -100 I don't see any changes to the photo. I push the "O" key and still nothing. I have tried to reset the photo, restarted Lightroom and still nothing. Please help.

Set Flow and Density of the brush to 100
Reduce it where you want the effect to blend.
Bruce

LR3.3 adjustment brush auto mask problem

I appreciate any and all help with this issue.
When I use the adjustment brush in LR 3.3 with the auto mask selected I get a speckled result. If I deslect the auto mask it works fine. I was hoping that 3.3 update would fix the issue but no luck.
My OS is Vista 64bit
thanks for your time.
Dave

+1 vote.
Auto-mask has great potential, but is not quite there yet...
I'd like to see a little more control - what exactly you are trying to mask, and what not... - ya now: some tolerances/thresholds for color and luminosity and texture... - and maybe the ability to enhance the edges after the fact.
R

Adjustment Brush edit bug verified by Adobe

Adjustment brush edits that turn off have been acknowledged as a "bug" by Adobe see http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/problem_with_adjustment_brush_tool_i n_adobe_camera_raw Someone on a Mac posted the same problem. From feedback to my post, I had thought it was just a Windows 7 problem.
Problem is more serious than my post on Oct.16. I have discovered it is more than a Preview issue. An Adjustment Brush edit that is (momentarily) not showing in ACR 7.2 or 7.3 will not be carried over to Photoshop when you update the file into PS CS6 as a Smart Object. So you made multiple Adjustment Brush edits (for example Exposure, Highlight and Clarity) only to discover that not all the edits made it to the Photoshop Smart Object.
See original Oct. 16 post to see screen shots provided by Noel Carboni that verify bug. http://forums.adobe.com/message/4792575#4792575 Includes specs of my Windows 7 x64 machine.

Okay, I know I'm just talking to myself here, but I wanted to leave another update. It's not nTune, (at least I don't think that had anything to do with it).
I've come to find that when I have Firefox (v3.01) open, the problem appears. With FF closed, it's gone. No other program that I've tried causes the same issue. And as far as I can tell, FF doesn't cause problems with any other software.
This is a strange problem indeed, but I guess if it comes down to having FF closed while I'm working, so be it.
Anyone have thoughts as to where the conflict is coming from?

Editing TIFF file with an adjustment brush vs. Photoshop Layer

I have some TIFF files I need to do some adjustments on. Mostly darkening the sky. Where the sky meets the foreground it is made up of tops of Spruce Trees.
My question is, can/should I use the adjustment brush in Lightroom to do this, or should I make a layer in Photoshop to do this?
I have found that when using the adjustment brush over the tops of Spruce trees, it is best to just paint over the whole thing, or else it will look artificial. Not sure if doing this in Photoshop would make my life easier? Any comments? Thanks.
Scott

A couple of comments: either a graduated filter or a brush-painted adjustment which paints across (for example) the horizon / tree / silhouette line of (say) a bright sky, will naturally (or, better to say, unnaturally) affect the overlapped parts too, IF you use the "Exposure" slider to do this. In that case one would need to be reasonably precise and finicky about the masking, which IMO goes a little against the intention of these tools within LR..
However, if you use the new LR4 "Highlights" slider instead, the result is much less artificial-looking IMO - even if you have painted (or graduated) quite loosely to include some areas of darker buildings, trees, mountains etc. This is because rather than affecting the whole tone scale, only bright regions of the picture are affected by "Highlights". Conversely, only dark areas of the picture are affected by the "Shadows" adjustment, when you use that.
So in that context, one would only need to erase back out of the painted mask, any areas where this adjustment was noticeably unwanted - which is often, a better way to proceed than attempting to paint your adjustment postively up to a boundary. The effect of a smoothly graduated adjustment can be achieved by using a very large, very soft-feathered brush in the first place, rather than the Grad tool - with the advantage that unlike the grad tool, a smaller harder brush can then be used in Erase mode to cut out areas as required. Depending on the nature of the adjustment, this too can be done fairly loosely - or, with Auto mask turned on.
Auto mask can be a little blocky and harsh in the way it treats an edge, but this tends not to matter when you are erasing out, so much as when you are painting in.

Adjustment Brush coverage/Raw 7.1

Downloaded 7.1 beta to open Cr2 files from Canon 5D Mark3. Onle real hitch I have found in using the adjustment brush in Raw. With flow and density at 100%, minimal feathering, and brush hardness 100%, notice a lot of "speckling" where the affect has not "taken"...i.e., with an exposure at -.5, several areas will only be partially darkened. Multiple passes will improve, but this is not consistent with behavior of previous versions. I do not know if this is restricted to exposure, as most other setting, clarity, sharpness, noise reduction etc. are less distinct in their impact. Hopefully, issue will resolve with release of full update.

Do you have Auto Mask turned on?

The"Auto Mask" option of Adjustment Brush in Camera Raw

In Camera Raw, I saw the "Auto Mask" option at the bottam of all the slides of Adjustment Brush, what is this option for?
When you halt your mouse in this option, it prompts that it is for adjusting the sensitivity of brush's edge, but I don't understand what does it mean exactly.

chicagonature wrote:
Is there a way to control the halos around the edges?
No.
chicagonature wrote:
Might as well go into Photoshop and spend 30 minutes doing my own mask if the excessive haloing can't be improved.
Many of us were hoping Adobe would invest in improving the auto-masking technology for Lr4, but didn't happen. Fingers crossed for Lr5...
As is, it's only marginally useful...
R

Adjustment brush bugged? Image areas not brushed over change nevertheless

Problem:
I used the adjustment brush to brighten up an area in an image (+0.2 exposure). Doing so, a nearby but not connected area and not touched by the brush brightened up as well, going from almost blown out to blown out as shown by the red warning overlay.
System:
Pentium i5 machine, Windows 7 home premium 64 bit, 8 GB RAM
Lightroom 3.3 64 bit
Here are some illustrations:
before applying the brush (note the blue are near the upper edge not yet blown out)
I am applying the brush here (note area marked in red, not touching the blue almost blown out part near the top edge):
And this is what happens to the blue area when applying the brush:
The funny thing is, when I hover the cursor over the brush pin (as in the second picture above), the blue area to the top left is NOT marked blown out (as can be seen in the second picture).
Something strange is going on here. Either the red 'blown out' overlay is not functioning correctly in this situation, or the adjustment brush is bugged. It should obviously not have any effect on areas that have not been brushed over.
Any thoughts?
Christian

CASpyr wrote:
Thanks Lee Jay for the quick reply. I did search before posting but apparently have not used the right terms.
It seems this is known for quite a while. Has Adobe made any statement on a workaround or that this is being fixed?
I understand this is something occurring in unusual circumstances only but still, it's a bug....
I think the problem is that they cannot reproduce the issue, hence no fix yet.

Problems with Adjustment Brush - LR 2.3, Macintosh

I've had numerous discussions with folks at Adobe's Tech Support and they have no idea what is going on with my problem in LR 2.3 on a Mac (10.5.6, 2 X 3 GHz dual Intel, 5 GB ram, startup drive has catalog, images stored on internal drive) so I thought I'd post the problem here just so it was brought to the attention of other folks at Adobe as well as the general user population.
I preform basic parametric edits (Exposure through Detail) on my images and then apply a number of adjustment brush edits to the images, mainly exposure, clarify, sharpen. All of these edits are done over perhaps 25% of the image at the very most, usually a lot less, say 10% of the image.
I then leave LR's Develop module and in the Library, I have used the "Update DNG Preview and Metadata" menu command for any photos that have the downward pointing arrow appearing in the top right corner. I'm not sure why this is necessary or why this indicator is showing since I have never exported these photos for external editing and I have the Metadata preference set in Catalog preferences to "Automatically write changes into XMP." I did have this setting off for some time and after reading Martin Evening's discussion of the pros and cons of using this feature decided to have it checked on.
When I return to my Adjustment Brush edited photos, the AB edits are splattered all over the image, not in any way like the edits I applied when I did the initial edits. I can see the edits quite clearly using the red overlay. Also, the AB control buttons are sometimes in different locations than where I had originally placed them. When this problem first occurred (LR 2.3 RC) it would take minutes to move from image to image in the Develop module. Lots of the Mac spinning beach ball! This is better in LR 2.3 though there is still a slow down after the AB has been applied.
I have exported and moved my catalog of photos to a new computer and the problem persists. I have removed the history to before the AB edits were applied and reapplied the edits and the problem comes back (I think as long as I use the Update DNG Preview and Metadata menu item?!?). I have checked the catalog for integrity as well as optimized the catalog. I have tried applying AB settings to other photos and I have yet to duplicate the problem though I am still testing this.
I showed the problem to Jeff Schewe at the Epson Print Academy in Los Angeles in February and he had no idea what was going on. This was before the release of 2.3. The problem first showed itself while I was using LR 2.3 RC and was also in LR 2.2. It now shows up in LR 2.3. I am being SUPER judicious about using the AB in it's current state and will have to go into Photoshop to do some of the things I wanted to do in Lightroom. I did send a copy of two of the images to Adobe tech support but I never heard anything about what happened with those examples.
Does anyone have any idea what may be going on? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated and I would be glad to clarify any parts of this post that are unclear or to try out any testing that might clear this up. This is happening to about 25 photos in my catalog.

The problem I was having with Lightroom 2.3 and the Adjustment Brush has resurfaced.
Since I had a large part of my hardware replaced as I indicated in my previous posts here I'm sure that the problem is not hardware related.
When the problem resurfaced I noticed that one of my external hard drives that is my Time Machine backup was running (accessing the disk). I cannot be sure but the image corruption may be related to Time Machine (Mac OS X 10.5.6) running while I have LR 2.3 running. This is just a complete guess. I have disabled Time Machine and only run it manually now when LR is not open. I have reopened my past tech support cases and we'll see if Adobe has anything to say about this. What a pain!
BTW, I too have been getting slower and slower performance after I apply the AB to an image. Here's is a sample of one of my corrupted images showing the "splattered" adjustment brush edits that I didn't do but LR decided were "artful." The "splattered" edits appear in many images and appear to have no reason, thus the "splattered" term - somewhat like Jackson Pollack.

Adjustment Brush: Flow and Feather

Not so much a question, as an observation. Maybe it will help somebody.
I'm not a big user of the Adjustment Brush. I tend to use it occasionally for applying Clarity, Highlight Recovery, or applying/removing Sharpening.
I'd never much paid attention to the Flow and Density settings before today, and I certainly never really understood the Flow setting. The Feather setting never seemed to work as expected too. So, I just spent 10 minutes with a 50% grey image and a -2-stop brush, getting to the bottom of it all.
Density is the easiest setting to understand: it's like a percentage limit on effect opacity. So 100 means that your brush can deliver 100% of your chosen settings.
Flow was a little tricker to fathom. I expected Flow to control how fast the "paint" comes off the brush. But, no matter how slowly I move the brush, it doesn't come out any thicker. Maybe Flow is the wrong word. I worked out that you had to paint the same spot several times with a low Flow setting to get full Density. It's like Single Pass Density.
Feather is where I came unstuck. Setting any more than 0 give you a two-circle brush cursor. To me, this suggests that the inner circle is solid, the outer circle is clear, and inbetween is a gradient curve. In reality, the brush paints well outside the outer circle (increasing with Feather amount), and isn't solid at the inner circle either. This explains why I've always gone over the edge with a feathered brush, and why it always looks bloody awful when painting an exposure adjustment. Thank goodness the guys added Highlights to the brush settings.

Rob Cole wrote:
To be clear (and I think this is what you were saying too): Flow controls amount of paint per unit of time, regardless of brush movement speed..., for example:
flow = 100 -> you'll get full amount of paint instantly, that amount determined by density.
flow = 0 -> there will be zero paint coming out, so not a useful setting.
flow = 50 -> somewhere in between...
No, that's just it: it's not what I was saying. It is what I expected, but not what I found. Time has nothing to do with it. You can take as long as you like, and no more paint comes off the brush. That was the point I was making, and why I said I thought that "flow" was the wrong word. To me, flow is time-related (volume per second).
'Flow' seems to work by rationing the amount of paint in each stroke. It is only built up by extra strokes.

Adjustment Brush not working correctly

Since moving to LR 5.6 the adjustment brush has not worked correctly.
I am unable to adjust the size of the brush using the scroll function on my Mac mouse.When I try to do this I can see the slider moving indicating the size of the brush but nothing actually happens.When I try to adjust it using the slider itself again nothing happens.
Has anyone else experienced this problem or can you offer some advise please

The ACR plug-in files for PS-CS6 and PS-CC are in different folders, but the camera profiles and lens profiles are in a common folder. Since updates to ACR are typically handled by the product, itself, not direct-link downloads that you must have saved for ACR 7.1, I don’t know what the error means in relation to CC having a newer ACR.
What version of ACR did you have installed for CS6 before you tried to update to ACR 7.1? Are you trying to downgrade from a higher version of ACR on CS6?
The first thing I would try is install ACR 8.3 RC for PS-CS6, using the CS6-specific link at Adobe Labs.
If you really need to go back to an earlier version of ACR, then the Adobe-approved method is to uninstall PS, entirely, then re-install it to get the older version.
It may be that you have to uninstall both CS6 and CC and then install CS6, first, and get it updated the way you want it, then install CC, again, and update it how you want it. That seems like a lot of work, though.
Why are you wanting to install ACR 7.1 for CS6?
If you plan ahead, then the way you can switch between different versions of the ACR plug-in, is to save your Camera Raw.8bi file each time you upgrade (I rename mine so the extension is the version: Camera Raw_8bi.71 and leave them in the same folder), and just replace whatever version of the ACR plug-in with that one you want.

2.1 RC - Adjustment Brush Bug Persists

While the adjustment brush seem a bit more responsive under 2.1, I regret to report that the brush continues to apply adjustments even after I have released the left mouse button. This usually happens when I'm trying to refine the edge created by my initial selection. I've submitted a bug report to this effect.
As stated in my earlier posts, I'm running LR2.1 on a Vista Home Premium system with adequate processing power for PS CS3, 4 gigs of RAM, and plenty of HD space.
Adam

I read the release notes. They specifically said they fixed a couple of problems in the local correction area and went on to say:
>"We are still working on additional methods to improve the performance of the new Localized Correction features."
which indicates to me that they attempted to address some issues but as they did not say what issues were addressed or to what degree wouldn't it be prudent for us to keep reporting all problems that we have with LR2.1RC?
The specific issue reported in this thread may or may not have anything to do with 'performance' but it certainly has to do with the mouse--the mouse up is apparently not acknowledged until about the time the history list is updated so any brush movements between mouse up and the history updating are counted as edits. That is a definite bug and to quote Jeff in another thread about a different bug:
>Jeff Schewe:"...again you have to understand that MORE bug reports is more better...the more people wh report this as a problem the higher priority it will get. So, vote early, vote often..."
and since the LR2.1RC web site also said:
>"If you do experience an issue with this release candidate please report it to the Lightroom User to User forum."
where the phrase "User to User forum" is a link to this forum I would think the 'voting' should be done on this forum.

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