Airport Extreme and Time Capsule

Hey guys, I actually posted a few days ago (https://discussions.apple.com/message/19406166#19406166) but got no love. I think I've worked out a few of them myself from other sources, but of otherwise, the following remain unanswered. (Just copied and pasted from the above post) If anyone can answer a few questions for me, that'd be great.
I have a Belkin Modem/Router with a USB port for storage, but I just found out it only has 10/100 Ethernet, and can only mount 1 hard drive to that storage port. Other than that, it works fine and I am happy with it. Its stated wireless speed is 300mbps, and it supports 802.11n draft 2.0.
I also just got a Mac, and was considering a Time Capsule for using Time Machine (Or, because am also considering a Drobo, just a straight Airport Extreme).
So my questions are:
2. I don’t know if I can just “turn off” the Belkins Router abilities anyway. Assuming I can’t, will having 2 routers on my network even be possible? (Mac’s software is infinitely more user friendly, and I’d want to use it for my network).
4. For now, my storage drives are standard HDD’s from WD and Seagate, but I am considering a Drobo (Some form of RAID storage is happening in the next few months, for sure).
In either case:
a) Will Airport Extreme recognize my External Hard Drive as a Time Machine Backup Destination? (And as a Drive to store other media)
b) Will Time Capsule recognize my external hard drive, in addition to itself (Since it’s also a Hard Drive?)
5. This page: ((http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/features/harddrivesharing.html) says: “You can set up password-protected accounts for everyone on the network or allow read-only access to certain files and folders.”
Some folders, I don’t even want to allow read only access to. Can I require a password before they can be viewed, or modified/deleted? (If I go the time capsule rout, I would want to protect the drives attached to it, and probably not the HD on the capsule itself).
7. Can Time Machine backup wirelessly to other drives, such as http://shop.nextbyte.com.au/Script/MCH/Products/532195-NextByte-WDBACG0020HCHAES N-WD-My-Book-Live-2TB
Thanks so much for your help.
P.S. Can anyone recommend a good modem to use with the Airprort/Time Capsule?

Ok, thanks for clarifying.
Unfortunately, the "jury is still out" on this. Apple's last stance (ref: Mac OS X 10.5: Time Machine doesn't back up to AirPort Disks) is that Time Machine (TM) does not support backups to AirPort Disk drives. However, others (ref: Time Machine now works with AirPort Extreme's AirDisk feature) have reported that this is now working with firmware v7.3.1 or later.

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I didn't realize that Time Capsule will only support the print function of a wireless multifunction printer. So I want to use Extreme for my network to have full use of my printer and use TC as the Time machine backup only. How to I make the connections?

Thanks for your response and this is getting complicated but I just purchased a new iMac as well as the Airport TC. I've had the Airport Extreme for a year or so. The Airport Extreme worked perfectly with my old iMac wirelessly and I had all functions of my printer with no problems. I was expecting the same with the TC. But the instruction that came with TC say to connect the printer to the TC via USB...which I did. And the print function worked perfectly but nothing else. In researching I discovered that when wired that way the TC only supports the print function...not scan or fax or anything else. I tried going wireless since my AE worked perfectly via wireless but I got no printer functions at all that way. But I'm wondering also if I tried that during a time I was having other issues...I had to delete and re-add my printer which solved some other problems. I may try that again...and see if I can get all print functions with just the TC connected
As far as connecting both your AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule on your network, we're not clear on exactly how you want to do this. Will the AirPort Extreme connect to your modem using an Ethernet cable and the Time Capsule connect to the AirPort Extreme using an Ethernet cable?.......or......do you want the Time Capsule to connect to the network using wireless?
Well... first of all I would like not to have to use the AE at all...I would prefer using just my TC for network, all print functions and Time Machine backup if that's possible. My printer will not accept Ethernet connections (Canon MX512).
After failing at getting this to work, I decided I would try to use my AE for net and print functions and just use my TC for Time Machine backup. I tried several different connection configurations with no success until finally I connected cable modem to my AE via Ethernet and went wireless with the AE and printer. but connected the AE to the TC via Ethernet and amazingly everything worked like a charm (for a while) and I was patting myself on the back for being so smart. But now I find that the connection only lasts for a short time. If I leave it for a while the TC goes invisible...or at least I see a message saying the Ethernet is unplugged...but it is not... and I lose internet connection even though I have a green light on my AE. So now I'm at a loss. I don't know why I keep losing network signal and why my system thinks the Ethernet is unplugged.
So... after all this...I figured I wasn't so smart after all and I must have things wired incorrectly.
So... it sounds like you are saying I should go back and try again to get my new TC to work as I want it to via wireless instead of connecting via USB...is that correct? Could you tell me exactly how I should wire my equipment from cable modem to AE and/or TC to achieve net capability, full functions of my printer and Time Machine backup...
Thanks...

My Airport Extreme and Time Capsule both cannot do not mount my Seagate USB external hard.

My Airport Extreme and Time Capsule both cannot do not mount my Seagate USB external hard.
I am running OS 10.7.5
Both the TC and AE are updated to 7.6.1
The Seagate drive in formatted: Journaled HFS+
I tried everything on Apple's Article: HT1331 and the basic reboots and restarts.
"Next"

It sounds like you may be confusing "mount" with "recognize".
Connect the drive to the USB port on the AirPort Extreme
Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click on the AirPort Extreme icon, then click Edit
Click the Disks tab
Does the AirPort Extreme "recognize" your hard drive? If yes, it will be displayed in the window.
See example below of a WD 500 GB drive connected to the AirPort Extreme.
If your drive is formatted HFS+ and it does not appear here, then you will almost certainly need to use a powered USB hub with the hard drive.....even if the hard drive has its own power supply. The USB port on the AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule is under powered.
Post back when the drive is "recognized" and we will next "mount" the drive.....although you likely already know how to do this.

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Problem droping connection to internet when is Time capsule in extended wifi mode. When I turn off wifi on time capsule Airport extreme work fine.
Airport extreme and Time capsule is conected via ETH.
Any idea ?
Thaks
B.

If you use ethernet to connect the AE and TC .. you must NOT extend wifi.. you use Create a wireless network. And setup with same name and security. You are using roaming network.. not extended wireless.. if you want to use extended wireless no ethernet
see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4260

Confused about which would be best. Is there a site I can quickly compare airport express, airport extreme and time capsule?

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There is. Look at the AirPort Express page....Mac > Accessories > AirPort Express.... or look here:
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Ok so I have a few of the new Airports and Time Capsules, the stacking arrangement on the Ethernet ports is just about the dumbest thing I have seen in a long time. For a company that prides itself in user experience design and engineering, you lost it on this one.
The ports are maybe a centimeter apart which makes in near impossible, unless you are an infant or use a tool, to disconnect the cables of any of the other ports except the top one. So for example if I have to disconnect bottom port, I either have to get a stick or a pencil or find an infant that has the dexterity needed (and the appropriate working papers) to disconnect the lower ports or I have to disconnect the top, then the middle then the bottom port.
So dumb....
Next there are no lights on the front that give the status of the ports. Maybe there is a big trend moving away from this but it would be AWESOME in my book if you had port status lights on the front.
Lastly the **** box! OK next time make the bottom of the box the "next" and the top large portion of the box fit inside it. Ever try and get the box apart after you have removed the device and put the box back together. I swear to god there is a cat in there and I can't tell if it is dead or alive and I can't get the box open to see.
Lastly *** is with that app? It was better in the previous version, maybe 5.n?

Not sure if you are aware that this is a user to user to support forum.
Apple is not here, and they will not see your comments.
If you want to provide feedback to Apple, you can do so here:
Apple - Time Capsule - Feedback

Airport Extreme and Time Capsule – A few questions

Hey guys,
I have a Belkin Modem/Router with a USB port for storage, but I just found out it only has 10/100 Ethernet, and can only mount 1 hard drive to that storage port. Other than that, it works fine and I am happy with it. Its stated wireless speed is 300mbps, and it supports 802.11n draft 2.0.
I also just got a Mac, and was considering a Time Capsule for using Time Machine (Or, because am also considering a Drobo, just a straight Airport Extreme).
So my questions are:
1. Is there any point in keeping the Belkin to use as my modem if it’s got 10/100 Ethernet ports? Will that make the Time Capsule/APE (And hence the attached drives/devices) perform at the slower speed?
2. I don’t know if I can just “turn off” the Belkins Router abilities anyway. Assuming I can’t, will having 2 routers on my network even be possible? (Mac’s software is infinitely more user friendly, and I’d want to use it for my network).
3. Is there a limit to how many Hard Drives I can connect to an Airport Extreme/Time Capsule? (My Belkin can only share one, even via a USB Hub – it only sees the first drive.)
4. For now, my storage drives are standard HDD’s from WD and Seagate, but I am considering a Drobo (Some form of RAID storage is happening in the next few months, for sure).
In either case:
a) Will Airport Extreme recognize my External Hard Drive as a Time Machine Backup Destination? (And as a Drive to store other media)
b) Will Time Capsule recognize my external hard drive, in addition to itself (Since it’s also a Hard Drive?)
5. This page: ((http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/features/harddrivesharing.html) says: “You can set up password-protected accounts for everyone on the network or allow read-only access to certain files and folders.”
Some folders, I don’t even want to allow read only access to. Can I require a password before they can be viewed, or modified/deleted? (If I go the time capsule rout, I would want to protect the drives attached to it, and probably not the HD on the capsule itself).
6. Also, the rest of my computers are PC’s, and I was wondering if it’s possible (and safe) to set up time machine to backup to the time capsule for Mac, and allow the other PC’s to backup to it using their version of “Time Machine” too?
I know this will leave less room for mac and PC backups, but it would free up room on my Drobo / HDD’s
7. Can Time Machine backup wirelessly to other drives, such as http://shop.nextbyte.com.au/Script/MCH/Products/532195-NextByte-WDBACG0020HCHAES N-WD-My-Book-Live-2TB
Thanks so much for your help.
P.S. Can anyone recommend a good modem to use with the Airprort/Time Capsule?

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Set up advice needed and appreciated Airport Extreme and Time Capsule

Hi all - bear with me on this
I have an Airport Extreme attached to my modem in the living room - all is well
This is attached via the house electrical mains to a Time Capsule in the office - which I use as a back up drive - which is wired to my main computer (iMac).
All works well - but the range in the back - where the office is - isn't great (i struggle to go wireless in the garden) - would it be improved if I ticked the 'Allow this network to be extended' box?
I am not 100% certain what this means - what it does and whether i should tinker (by and large the two airports are set up and working as they came out of the box)
any help is appreciated
best
darren, lockerbie,uk

The second part puzzles me - excuse me (but i honestly don't know) do both units give off a wifi signal of roughly equal 'amounts'?
Yes. Since both are connected by "Ethernet" each base station is its own wireless network and you have a few options on how best to configure them.
One of those options is to give both wireless networks the same Network Name (or SSID) so that you can, for example, "walk" a laptop from one to the other and stay connected. This is known as a roaming network.
If this is something that you don't desire or have a requirement for, then leaving them as two separate wireless networks would work just as well.
So what i am asking - i guess - is can i increase the distance the wifi signal reaches of the second unit (the time capsule - that is wired to the airport extreme)
To extend the wireless range of the Time Capsule (TC) you would need another 802.11n AirPort, like the AirPort Express Base Station (AXn). This should get a stronger signal out to the garden. Of course, it would really depend on the distance from the TC to where you would like to place the AXn to get the best results.
Let me know if you need help configuring the base stations.

Trouble with Airport Extreme and Time Capsule

Just got a new 2TB time capsule and added it to my network (existing Airport Express and Airport Extreme). All devices are hard-wire back-hauled to Linksys router. Set up was straight forward with no issues and initiated a time capsule back up without a problem. Within hours I noticed that the TC was no longer reachable in Finder.. Opening the AirPort utility, I saw that both the Extreme and the TC were "lost". Still had (green) internet connectivity, but the base stations were showing as off-line in the Airport utility.
Tried rebooting and checking from multiple other devices and no luck. Occasionally will find them both on-line in Airport utility, but seem to lose one (usually TC) after a short period. All are running the most up to date version of firmware (7.7.3). Prior to installing the TC, I had experienced 0 issues with Airport Express and Extreme.
Has anyone else seen similar issues? Are there settings that need to be accounted for in some way to avoid these frustrating "lost devices"?
thanks

Thank you for your quick answer, smorkerz. However, I did it and it doesn't work.
I tried to check separately the time capsule and the airport extreme, switching one off when using the other one. The result is that each one works alone but when I use them both, just time capsule appears, works well, and I can't use the airport to print for instance.
Do you understand anything ?

Lifespan of AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule

In April 2009, I bought a 1 TB Time Capsule. It developed the power supply problem (covered in other discussions) and died. In September 2011, I bought a replacement 2 TB Time Capsule.
A few weeks ago, while running a Time Machine backup from my MacBook, the Time Capsule spontaneously reset rather violently -- there was a noticeable sound it was so violent.
Since that spontaneous reset, I have two problems: (1) The guest network will not give an IP address to any device. (2) On the main network, the performance has been very spotty. (I get occasional disconnects on various devices, webpages may stall or not load, etc. The Airport indicator ("rainbow") remains active when experiencing these issues.)
My question: Is this a reasonable experience? Should I realistically expect to buy a new base station every 2 years? Are these problems more common with the Time Capsule than with the plain AirPort Extreme? I have heard of drive failures on the Time Capsules, but my problems seem to relate to the wireless capabilities, not the drives.
Thanks,
Brian

The Time Capsule has not lasted as well as the Extreme. I think the reason is mistakes were made in the design. It is too small to hold a full size hdd.. it is over hot when it runs, because the fan which is available doesn't run.. and putting the power supply inside a sealed device makes it extremely difficult to fix.
If you have apple care on any computer and the TC was purchased within 2years of it, then it is also covered. So you still have some time, to get a new computer and get the TC fixed. I think Apple now expect you to dispose of everything on a 3year cycle.. and keep it whilst it has applecare.. !!
Many of the early express did die with the same problem of internal power supply.. it leads to the device running too hot. They did seem to get it fixed in the later ones.

Do i need airport extreme and time capsule?

I'm confused. Do I need Time Capsule and Airport? I want to back up and I want to have wireless to my ipad, iphone and apple TV.

Both devices are routers. The major difference is that the Time Capsule has a built in hard disk drive and the Extreme doesn't. Both support adding external USB hard drives or printers, however, only the TC can be used for Time Machine backups. Based on what you are trying to do and the equipment that you have, I would recommend the TC.

Trouble to use Airport Extreme and Time capsule

Hello,
I need help to solve a problem.
I'm using Time capsule and I try to install Airport Extreme to extend my network and to connect a USB printer. Time capsule is working perfectly and Internet works. But here are the troubles.
When I install Airport Extreme, I write my network password and after a reboot, Airport light turns green and can be seen in airport utility. But it doesn't keep on going.
When I want to check my configuration, airport extreme can't be reached. Printer doesn't works. Once I open again airport utility, airport extreme is not present in the left panel anymore.
Thank you for your help.

Thank you for your quick answer, smorkerz. However, I did it and it doesn't work.
I tried to check separately the time capsule and the airport extreme, switching one off when using the other one. The result is that each one works alone but when I use them both, just time capsule appears, works well, and I can't use the airport to print for instance.
Do you understand anything ?

HT4260 Airport extreme and time capsule connection order in a roaming network

I plan to create a roaming network with my current Airport Extreme as the primary device connected to the internet and the new Time Capsule as the secondary device in Bridge mode. The connection between AE and TC will be wired (ethernet). Then I plan to connect the PC that needs backing up to the Time Capsule with an ethernet cable. Apart from the PC-backup functionality, I'd like to use the Time Capsule as a central NAS-device in my network. All other wired network devices that need access to the NAS (Apple TV, Xtreamer) are currently connected to the primary Airport Extreme with ethernet cables. My question: is there any reason why I should consider reversing the setup order, i.e. making the Time Capsule the primary device connected to the internet and the Airport Extreme the secondary device? Would this have a positive or negative effect on Time Capsule functionality and performance in the network? Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

Your Gen3 Extreme and all TC are gigabit.. as long as you connect with the required standard cable to have a gigabit connection between the two, there will effectively be no difference. In a home network you will struggle to saturate gigabit no matter what you do. Although the difference between the two configurations is really very small.
General rule is keep whatever is using the highest bandwidth closest and directly connected to whatever it is using.. shrug.. in this case you can follow or not.. it is more a guideline.

Airport Extreme and Time Capsule problems

I have had an Airport Extreme 802.11g, version 5.7 for several years and have some problems that is get stuck now and then, so I have to restart it. I have tried to upgrade software, but cannot find anything appropriate. Assume 7.5 is a software version, but where and how to upgrade?
I got another problem when I bought a Time Capsule. It interferes with my Siemens Gigaset wireless phone. I have tried to change channel etc, but it does not seem to help. Any tips?
The two problems are not related, as I had the first problem before I got the Time Capsule.
Tor

v5.7 is the latest firmware for your AEB 802.11g.
v7.3.2 is the latest firmware for the TC.
You should probably do these simple maintenance tasks:
Simple Maintenance Tasks:
1. Repair Permissions - /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility.app. Start Disk Utility, select your HD and click on Repair Permissions. When finished, quit Disk Utility and then restart your computer.
2. Reset PRAM - hold down Option-Command-P-R keys when starting until you hear the startup chime a 2nd time.
3. Safe Mode Startup - hold down the Shift-key at startup until you see the login screen. When logged-in, then go to System Preferences/Network/AirPort
- click on the 'Network Name:' roll-button, select 'Join Other Network...', enter 'Network Name and select the security type you are using, and finally, enter your Password and click 'Join'.
- click on 'Advanced', TCP/IP and confirm that 'Configure IPv4:' is set to 'Using DHCP', click 'OK'.
- click the 'Apply' button and exit System Preferences.
Make sure you separate the AirPort Base Station and the wireless phone by as large a distance as you can.
You could enact Interference Robustness, but it will reduce the range of your AirPort base station:
1. Open AirPort Utility, select the AirPort Base Station (main) and click on 'Manual Setup'.
2. Click on 'Wireless' tab and click 'Wireless Options'.
3. Tick 'Use interference robustness, click 'Done', and click 'Update'.
4. Wait for ABS to restart. Restart your computer and test.

Airport Extreme and Time capsule(s)

Just got off the phone with Apple support and have been told I am afriad "thats the way Apple designed it" and dont really believe the reply.
I have an airport extreme with a number of Macs using the wireless connection and four time capsules hanging off the airport wirelessly. Everything works fine for 10, 15 or 20 plus days and then we start losing the connection to the Time capsule drives. ( they are just used as disks).
I can still see the disks in the airport utility and they all have a green light. However the finder can see the disks but will fail to connect. The only way to resolve this is to reboot the disk. I am using DHCP and even if I try and connect direct with an ip address the connection fails.
The support person told me that apple designed the extreme to only support 3 devices including itself. However when I lose connections I can always connect to non apple devices like a NAS drive I have hanging off the ADSL router.
Anybody any ideas?
I am running Lion 10.7.3
7.6.1 on the 2GB Time Capsule and the airport Extreme

To connect your Mac to the modem you may need to reset your modem to convince it to connect to a "new" device. Depending on the model of modem, that can be as easy as removing power for a few moments. If that doesn't work, remove power and wait 15 minutes. Further reset steps can involve pressing a "reset" button or removing a battery if the modem has one. In the worst case, your ISP may need to edit its settings to update to the MAC address of the new router. If they won't or can't do that, powering down the modem for 16 to 36 hours can reset the connection.

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