Alternate imap ports not working?

I use fastmail as my email provider who has an option to access their servers thru a special proxy, meaning I can access my email from within my work firewall. The settings work ok with the ibismail iphone app (with settings below), but (using the same settings) not with the iphone mail app. It's not just the work firewall, the mail settings don't work over 3g as well, so it must be the settings not the firewall. Has anyone tried to get their iphone working with an alternate port?
Host Name: imaps-proxy.messagingengine.com
Authentication = password, Use SSL=Yes, server port = 80

It looks like:
iPhone (3GS, OS 3.1.3) Mail with IMAP on:
port 143 (unencrypted): works
port 993 (ssl): works
any other port (unencrypted): works
any other port (ssl): DOES NOT WORK!
Moreover it doesn't matter wether the certificate for SSL is self-signed or a "valid" commercial one.
It also is no firewall issue on the server side.
This is really bad as I don't want to open standard IMAP-SSL port on my server but instead use some port > 10000
It also does not work with iPad (OS 3.2) Mail

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