Alternative Item Strategy 2

Hi,
We use Alternative Item Group to automatically select items of phantom assemblies with 100% availability, during process order release.
In the item detail screen of the phantom material's BOM, Strategy is 2 and priorities are assigned to components.
In Customizing OPJK, "Check material availability when saving order" is selected.
Component check type is ATP check.
This Phantom material is used twice in the BOM explosion of the finished product.
However, when the finished product's order is released, item withdrawal quantities for the phantom is determined according to priorities (which is true) for one and determined according to usage probabilities for the other.
Any ideas on how to fix it?
Thanks in advance.
Edited by: Deniz Ozgenc on Dec 24, 2009 5:03 PM

Purna,
This is not possible in standard SAP. SAP has provided only two options for this. The one which you explained and the other in which you define the percentage of usage probability.
Sumeet

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    Kindly check in SAP Help.
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    Message was edited by:
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    Based on what i know, the field will not be editable & there is no specific setting to make it editable.
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