Always so confused about color!!

Can someone tell me how to get beautiful bright colors when I export to pdf? I am trying to brighten these photos as much as possible in photoshop so that they'll be bright when they print out, but every time I export to pdf, they dull down and all look slightly more greyish-brown. Is there something I could do to make this better?
Here's how they look in InDesign's preview:
And how they look in Preview App:
And they're not just dark in Mac's Preview app... They are printing dark. Any comments?

I asked the local printer that we're printing with. They said that the color profile they always use is this US SWOP one. And that they also print on a sheet-fed offset press. What do you make of this?
I don't think all printers necessarily have a grip on color management or they might want to simply avoid the liability of color management and conversions. It sounds like they just use the InDesign defaults, but that doesn't mean the profile of their (sheetfed) press is actually US SWOP.
If your jobs are consistently printing too dark, I would consider using US Sheetfed Coated as your document CMYK profile. It allows for more dot gain and density. There's nothing you can do about RGB color that is outside of the CMYK color gamut.

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Confused about color vs. b/w photos for printing...and more

I reading confusing things about exporting a PDF for printing with both color and black and white images used in the same document.
If I export to PDF and do a soft-proof and it looks okay, is that sufficient? If so, what's confusing about that, since this is my first print project, which Simulation Profile do I use? Is there a chart somewhere that compares U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2 to let's say 80 lb Gloss book with Aqueous coating (C2S)?
I don't know what any of this means. So, is there a good article on this site, elsewhere, or an online printer who can help a rookie like me ensure I end up with a decent product?
UPrinting.com advertises a "Free Project Review" that includes the following:
Our team will run your file through a 30-point inspection, covering technical issues including:
Artwork dimensions
Bleed setup
Low resolution images
Elements that are not within the safe zone
Image clipping
Font sizes
Un-embedded fonts
Folding setup
Page scaling
Line weights
Proper text spacing (compressed/expanded)
Narrow borders that are at risk of being cut
Compliance with USPS Mailing Guidelines
Bindery setup for multi-page artwork
What should I do? Is this trustworthy as long as I get a contract proof? Is there a "Go To" online printer that everyone loves (not sure you can recommend that here) or should I seek out a local printer?
I'm using CS4 and have a file that's (maybe) ready to go but am looking at a learning curve of days if not weeks if I have to figure it all out myself.
Thanks everyone.
Paul

InDesign puts grayscale and B&W (bitmap mode) art on the Black plate, where it belongs, so if you soft proof using the CMYK profile for your expected output conditions your preview will be accurate for the grayscale and B&W images as they will appear in print. presuming your monitor is calibrated and profiled so that you can trust what you see.
Aqueous coating is applied AFTER the printing to protect, and possible enhance the glossiness of, the page (but not all coatings are glossy). This is not the same thing as printing on coated paper, which has a glossy surface and high ink holdout (and improves detail reproduction and usually will geive better color). You should be using whatever profile the printer has specified.

Confused about Color Management in CS5 (Photos appearing differently in all other programs)

I recently noticed this and it's been driving me crazy; when I view photos in Photoshop CS5 they appear significantly lighter/more washed out than when viewed in other programs like Zoombrowser, Digital Photo Professional or just in a regular Windows folder using Filmstrip mode (Windows XP). When opening the same photo in both CS5 and Zoombrowser and switching back and forth between the two windows the difference is very apparent...for example, one of the photos I compared was of a person in a black shirt -- in CS5 (lighter/washed out) the folds in the shirt were very obvious, but in Zoombrowser (darker, more contrast/saturation) the folds were nearly invisible and it looked like just solid black. Now, after messing around with the settings in both Photoshop and in Zoombrowser I've found a few ways to get the photos to look the same in the two programs; one way gives them both the lighter/more washed out appearance and another way gives them both the darker appearance with more contrast and saturation. My problem is that I'm not sure which view is accurate.
I use a NEC MultiSync LCD1990SXi monitor with SpectraView II calibration software and calibrate it every 2 weeks using these calibration settings (screenshot): http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8826/settingsx.jpg
In the SpectraView II Software under Preferences there's an option that says "Set as Windows Color Management System Monitor Profile - Automatically selects and associates the generated ICC monitor profile with the Color Management System (CMS)." This option is checked. Also, when I open the Windows' Color Management window there's only one option displayed, which is "LCD1990SXi #######" (the ####### represents my monitor's serial number).
I assume the above settings are all correct so far, but I'm not sure about the rest.
Here are my current default Color Settings in CS5 (screenshot): http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/666/photoshopcolorsettings.jpg
Changing these settings around doesn't seem to make the photo appear much different. However, when I go to Edit -> Assign Profile, then click off of "Working RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1" and instead click Profile and select "LCD1990SXi ####### 2011-06-21 18-30 D65 2.20" from the drop-down menu, the picture becomes darker with more contrast and saturation and matches the picture in Zoombrowser. Also, if I select "Adobe RGB (1998)" from the drop-down menu it's very similar in terms of increased darkness and contrast but the saturation is higher than with the LCD1990SXi setting. Another way I've found to make the image equally dark with increased contrast and saturation is to go to View -> Proof Setup -> Custom and then click the drop-down menu next to "Device to Simulate" and select "LCD1990SXi ####### 2011-06-21 18-30 D65 2.20" again.
Alternatively, to make both images equally light and washed out I can go to Zoombrowser -> Tools -> Preferences and check the box next to "Color Management: Adjust colors of images using monitor profile." This makes the image in Zoombrowser appear just like it does in CS5 by default.
Like I said, I'm confused as to which setting is the accurate one (I'm new to Color Management in general so I apologize for my ignorance on the subject).
It would seem that assigning the LCD1990SXi profile in CS5 would be the correct choice in order to match the monitor calibration given the name of the profile but the "Adjust colors of images using monitor profile" option in Zoombrowser sounds like it would do the same thing as well. Also, I've read that Photoshop is a color managed software whereas Zoombrowser and Windows Picture and Fax Viewer are not which makes me think that maybe the lighter/washed out version seen in Photoshop is correct. So which version (light or dark) is the accurate one that I should use to view and edit my photos? Thanks in advance for any help or info.

Sorry for the late reply;
But before we go there or make any assumptions, it's important for
you to determine whether you're seeing consistent color in your
color-managed applications and only inconsistent color in those that are
not color-managed. For that you'll need to do a little research to see
if the applications in which you're seeing darker colors have
color-management capability (and whether it is enabled).
I opened the same picture in 7 different applications and found that the 6 of the 7 displayed the photo equally dark with equally high contrast when compared to the 7th application (CS5). The other 6 applications were Zoombrowser EX, Digital Photo Professional, Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, Quicktime PictureViewer, Microsoft Office Picture Manager and Firefox.
However, at least two of these programs offer color management preferences and, when used, display the photo (from what I can tell) exactly the same as Photoshop CS5's default settings. The two programs are two Canon programs: Zoombrowser EX and Digital Photo Professional. Here's the setting that needs to be selected in Zoombrowser in order to match up with CS5 (circled in red):
And here's the setting in Digital Photo Professional that needs to be selected in order to match up with CS5 (again, circled in red):
*Note: When the option above "Monitor Profile" is selected ("Use the OS settings") the image is displayed exactly the same as when the monitor profile is selected. It's only when sRGB is selected that it goes back to the default darker, more contrasty version.
So with the red-circled options selected, all three programs (CS5, ZB, DPP) display the images the same way; lighter and more washed out. What I'm still having trouble understanding is if that ligher, more washed out display is the accurate one or not...I've read several tutorials for all three programs which only make things more confusing. One of the tutorials says to always use sRGB if you want accurate results and *never* to use Monitor Profile and another says that, if you're using a calibrated monitor, you should always select Monitor Profile under the color management settings...so I'm still lost, unfortunately.
What I also don't understand is why, when the monitor profile is selected in CS5, the image is displayed in the dark and contrasty way that the other programs display it as by default but when the monitor profile is selected in Digitial Photo Professional it displays it in the lighter, more washed out way that CS5 displays it using CS5's default settings (sRGB). Why would selecting the monitor profile in DPP display the photo the same way as when sRGB is selected in Photoshop? And vice versa...why would selecting the monitor profile in Photoshop display the photo the same way as when sRGB is selected in DPP?
I feel like I'm missing something obvious here...which I probably am. Again, I'm very new to this stuff so pardon my ignorance on the topic.
By the way, I find that the way that the non-color managed programs (Windows Picture and Fax Viewer et al.) display the photos is more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than the duller, more washed out display that CS5 gives the photos, but ultimately what I want to see in these programs (especially PS5 where I'll be doing the editing) is the accurate representation of the actual photo itself...i.e. what it's supposed to look like and not a darker (or lighter) variant of it.
So just to reiterate my questions:
Why does selecting Monitor Profile under the color management settings in DPP give the same display results as the default sRGB profile in CS5 and vice versa? (CS5 with monitor profile selected having the same display results as DPP with the sRGB profile selected)
When using CS5 with it's default color management settings (sRGB), using DPP with the Monitor Profile selected, and using Zoombrowser EX with "Adjust color of images using monitor profile" selected this results in all three programs displaying the same lighter, washed-out images...is this lighter, more washed-out display of the images shown in these three programs the accurate one?
I noticed when opening an image in Firefox it had the same darker, contrasty look as the other non-color managed applications had. Assuming that the CS5 default settings are accurate, does this mean that if I edit a photo in CS5, save it, and upload it to the internet that other people who are viewing that image online will see it differently than how it's supposed to look (i.e. in a non-color-managed way?) If so, this would seem to indicate that they'd see a less-than-flattering version of the photo since if their browser naturally displays images as darker and more contrasty and I added more darkness and contrast to the image in CS5, they'd be seeing a version of the photo that's far too dark and probably wouldn't look very good. Is this something I have to worry about as well?
I apologize for the lengthy post; I do tend to be a bit OCD about these things...it's a habit I picked up once I realized I'd been improperly editing photos on an incorrectly calibrated monitor for years and all that time and effort had been spent editing photos in a certain way that looked good on my incorrectly calibrated monitor but looked like crap on everyone else's screen, so the length and detail of this post comes from a desire to not repeat similar mistakes by editing photos the wrong way all over again. Again, thanks in advance for all the help, it's greatly appreciated!

Confused about color profile support in PNG

NOTE -- you have to hover over the image to see the real images. The images embedded in the webpage have their profiles stripped -- just like photoshop does! Interesting.
I ask a similar question on this before, but couldn't give a satisfactory demonstration of how photoshop doesn't support color profiles in png's.
But now I have a great one.
Picture A: this is with the correct color profile and displays correctly in firefox and probably other browsers -- also displays correctly on windows desktop and in large-icon view.
Ok, anyone who doesn't believe me, grab that image and try to read it into photoshop...
I do, and get no warning on profile mismatch like I do on jpg's or tiff's:
photoshop strips the existing profile and adds sRGB which isn't the correct profile.
This is how photoshop transforms good colors into bad:
Completly screwed up.
I have had multiple people notice how my png saved images from photoshop had "off" or bad colors -- usually washed out in comparison w/my monitor profile.
I can get 'ok' results if I flatten the image and *convert* my existing profile to sRGB -- and I usually get
something that looks 'acceptable'...though the jpg's render in accurate color.
Basically, photoshop can't read or write png web images. and maintain color fidelity unless they have no profile. Even if they have an sRGB profile, I usually get washed out looking pics if I don't strip it but let adobe convert it.
In googling for my own problem, I found references to this problem in Adobe Photoshop going back to 2002.
Why does adobe refuse to fix this? It's horrible.
They could fix it with a file plugin for existing CS5-6 users, but it really needs to get fixed and Adobe needs to stop ignoring this problem.
:-( I find this extra depressing because I prefer to distribute my pictures losslessly in png, but with photoshop, I'm left with lossy jpegs to get accurate color reproduction.

How did the SFW thing even come up?? When I embed profiles in jpg and tiff, I do it as part of the File Save or File Save As dialog. I can choose what profile to save it with -- and I usually save it with my currently calibrated monitor profile -- as that color profile is what was used to create the picture. Why would I want to convert them to some other profile?? Only thing I have needed to convert have been PNG's because it doesn't embed my monitor profile in the PNG the same way jpg and tiff do.
If it did, png's would look the same as jpgs and tiffs... but the jpgs and tiffs have the full depth of color and look the same as they do in PS. png's look washed out because -- it's been my belief that PS is not storing my profile in the png, but setting a bit in the file to use the sRGB profile.
AFAIK, PNG provided for a sRGB profile-compat bit -- so images that were compat w/that profile could just set a bit rather than including a profile. I see no evidence that PS is saving my monitor profile with the PNG.
My 'settings' for RGB are to convert to working RGB profile which is my monitor profile.
I do have it set to ask me abou profile mismatches on opening or pasting.
Since I don't get a 'this document has a different color profile than the working space'
message when I edit most png's, I assume it has none. Thus from my settings
it should autoconvert it to my monitor profile and save that on save -- which seems to be what happens when I save as jpg or tiff (or I can check off the box to save profile...but I usually don't).

Confused about logical table source

Hi,
I'm confused about logical table source(LTS), there are 'General', 'Column Mapping', 'Content' tabs in
LTS, in General tab ,there are some information,like 'Map to there tables' and 'joins',
just here, we have created relationships in physical layer and BMM layer, so I would like to ask what's the use of the 'joins' here?

Hi Alpha,
Valid query, when you establish a complex join it is always between a logical fact and dimension table.Consider a scenario,
Example:w_person_dx is an extension table not directly joined to a fact but joins to a dimension w_person_d.
When you model the person_d tables in BMM, you ll have a single logical table with w_person_d as source.If you have to pull columns from both w_person_d and w_person_dx tables in a report, you add dx table as inner join to persond table in the general tab.Now when you check your physical query, you can see the inner join fired between the two dimensions.
Rgds,
Dpka

Confused about transaction, checkpoint, normal recovery.

After reading the documentation pdf, I start getting confused about it's description.
Rephrased from the paragraph on the transaction pdf:
"When database records are created, modified, or deleted, the modifications are represented in the BTree's leaf nodes. Beyond leaf node changes, database record modifications can also cause changes to other BTree nodes and structures"
"if your writes are transaction-protected, then every time a transaction is committed the leaf nodes(and only leaf nodes) modified by that transaction are written to JE logfiles on disk."
"Normal recovery, then is the process of recreating the entire BTree from the information available in the leaf nodes."
According to the above description, I have following concerns:
1. if I open a new environment and db, insert/modify/delete several million records, and without reopen the environment, then normal recovery is not run. That means, so far, the BTree is not complete? Will that affact the query efficiency? Or even worse, will that output incorrect results?
2. if my above thinking is correct, then every time I finish commiting transactions, I need to let the checkpoint to run in order to recreate the whole BTree. If my above thinking is not correct, then, that means that, I don't need to care about anything, just call transaction.commit(), or db.sync(), and let je to care about all the details.(I hope this is true :>)
michael.

http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/je/TransactionGettingStarted/chkpoint.html
Checkpoints are normally performed by the checkpointer background thread, which is always running. Like all background threads, it is managed using the je.properties file. Currently, the only checkpointer property that you may want to manage is je.checkpointer.bytesInterval. This property identifies how much JE's log files can grow before a checkpoint is run. Its value is specified in bytes. Decreasing this value causes the checkpointer thread to run checkpoints more frequently. This will improve the time that it takes to run recovery, but it also increases the system resources (notably, I/O) required by JE.
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Confused about standby redo log groups

hi masters,
i am little bit confuse about creating redo log group for standby database,as per document number of standby redo group depends on following equation.
(maximum number of logfiles for each thread + 1) * maximum number of threads
but i dont know where to fing threads? actually i would like to know about thread in deep.
how to find current thread?
thanks and regards
VD

is it really possible that we can install standby and primary on same host??
yes its possible and i have done it many times within the same machine.
For yours confusion about spfile ,i agree document recommend you to use spfile which is for DG broker handling if you go with DG borker in future only.
There is no concern spfile using is an integral step for primary and standby database implementation you can go with pfile but good is use spfile.Anyhow you always keep pfile on that basis you created spfile,i said you make an entry within pfile then mount yours standby database with this pfile or you can create spfile from this pfile after adding these parameter within pfile,i said cause you might be adding this parmeter from SQL prompt.
1. logs are not getting transfered(even i configure listener using net manager)
2.logs are not getting archived at standby diectory.
3.'ALTER DATABASE RECOVER MANAGED STANDBY DATABASE DISCONNECT FROM SESSION' NEVER COMPLETE ITS RECOVERY
4. when tried to open database it always note it 'always' said system datafile is not from sufficiently old backup.
5.i tried 'alter database recover managed standby database camncel' also.Read yours alert log file and paste the latest log here..
Khurram

Confused about passing by reference and passing by valule

Hi,
I am confuse about passing by reference and passing by value. I though objects are always passed by reference. But I find out that its true for java.sql.PreparedStatement but not for java.lang.String. How come when both are objects?
Thanks

Hi,
I am confuse about passing by reference and passing
by value. I though objects are always passed by
reference. But I find out that its true for
java.sql.PreparedStatement but not for
java.lang.String. How come when both are objects?
ThanksPass by value implies that the actual parameter is copied and that copy is used as the formal parameter (that is, the method is operating on a copy of what was passed in)
Pass by reference means that the actual parameter is the formal parameter (that is, the method is operating on the thing which is passed in).
In Java, you never, ever deal with objects - only references to objects. And Java always, always makes a copy of the actual parameter and uses that as the formal parameter, so Java is always, always pass by value using the standard definition of the term. However, since manipulating an object's state via any reference that refers to that object produces the same effect, changes to the object's state via the copied reference are visible to the calling code, which is what leads some folk to think of java as passing objects by reference, even though a) java doesn't pass objects at all and b) java doesn't do pass by reference. It passes object references by value.
I've no idea what you're talking about wrt PreparedStatement, but String is immutable, so you can't change its state at all, so maybe that's what's tripping you up?
Good Luck
Lee
PS: I will venture a guess that this is the 3rd reply. Let's see...
Ok, second. Close enough.
Yeah, good on yer mlk, At least I beat Jos.
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I'm new and confused about "connection" things

I'm new to BlackBerry--I have an 8320 Curve, I'm a small business owner and I'm not connected to a BES. I use the BB Desktop Manager to synchronize with Outlook and to back up my BB and I've done pretty well on most things, but I still have a few things I'm confused about. In this forum, I'll ask my "confusion questions" concerning data options.
I have a "pay as you go" data plan with AT&T, my provider, because there is virtually no cell reception at my home where I also work. (I'm not using my BB for email since I'm in front of my computer most of the time). I have a home network set up and I've incorporated a router that supports wireless. I've connected a netbook to the wireless network and used it to surf the Internet, so, I know my wireless connection works. I've also managed to create a wireless connection on my BB to this network and on the Home screen, it will display my wireless network's name when I'm here at home, so, I know the device is connected to my network.
BUT, I don't think I'm actually using my home wireless network...I tried the other day by browsing the Internet and then AT&T told me I incurred data charges--which I thought I shouldn't have if I wasn't using their network. Either I'm wrong about assuming they won't charge me if I use my network or I have something set up incorrectly on my BB...can anyone provide some guidance?
Next, I don't truly understand what BIS is...I searched through the KB and couldn't find anything that actually defines BIS...could somebody please explain what BIS is?
Finally, can somebody please explain the difference between "mobile network" and "wi-fi"? It seems, if I turn off "mobile network" I have no connection at all, including wi-fi. Is that the way things should be? But, I can turn off wi-fi and still get a connection (if I go outside as far from my house as possible and face south <g>).
Thanks...and now I'm off to the BB Desktop Manager forum to ask a few questions there!
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Hi and Welcome to the forums!
I can help you with one or two of your questions:
ejm1 wrote:
Next, I don't truly understand what BIS is...I searched through the KB and couldn't find anything that actually defines BIS...could somebody please explain what BIS is?
BIS is Blackberry Internet Service...a service, hosted by your carrier, that provides a conduit between internet facing email systems (e.g., Yahoo, GMail, etc.) and your BB. Inside of BIS, you create conduits for each of your email providers that you desire to receive OTA email for on your BB. BIS will check your provider on a periodic basis (documented to be every 15 minutes) and only when there is something that needs to come to your BB does it generate any traffic over the carrier network with your BB. BIS is an add-service, only available to those who, from their carrier, contract for The Blackberry Data Plan (as it is usually called) -- a generic data plan is not usually adequate to have access to BIS.
ejm1 wrote:
Finally, can somebody please explain the difference between "mobile network" and "wi-fi"? It seems, if I turn off "mobile network" I have no connection at all, including wi-fi. Is that the way things should be? But, I can turn off wi-fi and still get a connection (if I go outside as far from my house as possible and face south <g>).
Mobile Network is your carriers network...data and/or voice services provided OTA for your BB. WiFi is wireless networking (802.11a/b/g/n) through your home WAP, hotspots, etc. I don't know if turning off Mobile Networ should or should not affect your ability to continue to use WiFi...I would think they are separate, but I don't have a BB model with WiFi.
I know nothing about the pay-as-you-go programs, but from all you describe, it seems that you may well be using your carrier network at times. You will need to find out (and there are others here who know) how to shut off your carrier network yet leave WiFi running so that you don't incurr the costs of surfing via the carrier network.
Hope that helps a little!
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Confused about accounts

We are trying to set up security using account but i'm a bit confused about it.
We have for example a structure like this:
* Company
***** Section 1
********* subsection A
********* subsection B
***** Section 2
********** subsection A
********** subsection B
1) When i define a path like company/Section1/subsection A
does the user also have right to company, Section 1 or does he only has right to subsection A of section 1?
1.B) If user has right to company, section 1, how can i give a user only rights to section1/subsection A?
1.C) if user doesn't have right to company, section 1, how do i give a user right to all folders above?
2) can i define "subsection A" so user has right to section1/subsection A and section2/subsection or does a path always have to start from the root?

Account permission are inclusive.... so if you give some user read permission on Company account then he will get read permissionon Section 1 ,subsection A ,subsection B, Section 2 , subsection A ,subsection B.
If you want to give a user read to one of the subsection then dont give him read permission on any of the parent of the subsection.e.g. you will need to give him access rights on "Company/Section1/subsectionA"
1
A)only has right to subsection A of section 1
B) only rights to section1/subsection A, remove his other rights and give him rights to
"Company/Section1/subsectionA".
1.C) if user doesn't have right to company, section 1, how do i give a user right to all folders above?
can you please elabrate on this question.....
2) can i define "subsection A" so user has right to section1/subsection A and section2/subsection or does a path always have to start from the root?
I think it will have to start from the root.
regards,
sapan

[SOLVED] Confused about Mobility Radeon HD 3200

I've always found hard to find good information about this card - some sources, even, contradict themselves. All what I know is that it is an integrated graphics card and that it features the RS780M chipset. These are some tips I've got from the system logs:
grep -i r600 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[ 23.353] (II) RADEON(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: r600
[ 23.353] (II) RADEON(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: r600
[ 24.099] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized r600
dmesg | grep -i radeon
[ 0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-linux-hf root=UUID=ab92c2db-22b5-4fcb-a33f-2efe3f3f104c ro radeon.modeset=1 radeon.benchmark=0 radeon.tv=0 radeon.pm=0 init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet
[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-linux-hf root=UUID=ab92c2db-22b5-4fcb-a33f-2efe3f3f104c ro radeon.modeset=1 radeon.benchmark=0 radeon.tv=0 radeon.pm=0 init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet
[ 1.463857] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
[ 1.464337] radeon 0000:01:05.0: VRAM: 256M 0x00000000C0000000 - 0x00000000CFFFFFFF (256M used)
[ 1.464340] radeon 0000:01:05.0: GTT: 512M 0x00000000A0000000 - 0x00000000BFFFFFFF
[ 1.464779] [drm] radeon: 256M of VRAM memory ready
[ 1.464781] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready.
[ 1.472494] radeon 0000:01:05.0: WB enabled
[ 1.472499] radeon 0000:01:05.0: fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr 0x00000000a0000c00 and cpu addr 0xffff8800374a5c00
[ 1.472502] radeon 0000:01:05.0: fence driver on ring 3 use gpu addr 0x00000000a0000c0c and cpu addr 0xffff8800374a5c0c
[ 1.472570] [drm] radeon: irq initialized.
[ 1.472672] radeon 0000:01:05.0: setting latency timer to 64
[ 1.504277] [drm] radeon atom DIG backlight initialized
[ 1.504279] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors
[ 1.504311] [drm] radeon: power management initialized
[ 2.344989] fbcon: radeondrmfb (fb0) is primary device
[ 2.441483] radeon 0000:01:05.0: fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device
[ 2.441486] radeon 0000:01:05.0: registered panic notifier
[ 2.441502] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.30.0 20080528 for 0000:01:05.0 on minor 0
I also found good (?) information, or at least a clearly-explained article, here. After reading it, UVD appears as the AMD's counterpart of NVIDIA's VDPAU for video acceleration.
What I'm not sure about, is:
- Does it support video acceleration? I'd like to offload video processing to the GPU, but am not sure if my card and the open-source drivers support it or not. Wikipedia's article about VDPAU states it comes from NVIDIA, but then it says it has an open-source implementation.
- What has gallium to do with it? What gallium drivers should I enable in mesa? And what about DRI drivers?
I configured mesa as follows:
./configure --prefix=/usr \
--sysconfdir=/etc \
--with-dri-driverdir=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri \
--with-gallium-drivers=r600 \
--with-dri-drivers=radeon \
--with-llvm-shared-libs \
--enable-gallium-llvm \
--enable-egl \
--enable-gallium-egl \
--with-egl-platforms=x11,drm \
--enable-shared-glapi \
--enable-gbm \
--enable-glx-tls \
--enable-dri \
--enable-glx \
--enable-osmesa \
--enable-texture-float \
--enable-xa \
--enable-vdpau
Not sure if I missed something, though.
I am very confused about how Linux manages graphics, and what all those layers are for. DRM, DRI, VDPAU, VA-API, gl, gl3, xv, xvmc... it's a mess!
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by Kalrish (2013-06-16 17:54:04)

The feature matrix might help. The easy part to answer is that the 3D driver is split into two parts: DRM which is part of the kernel and DRI which is in userspace and comes from the mesa package.
Xv is an Xserver extension supported by pretty much all drivers. Found in the DDX (xf86-video-*), it uses features of the card to speed up the display of video (but not decoding). It can either do this by using the "video overlay" or creating a shader.
Now if you want to use Xv but also offload decoding to the card, you need a video acceleration API. The ones to choose from are XvMC, VA-API, VDAPU in increasing order of feature support. They were developed by Xorg, Intel, Nvidia respectively but anyone is free to implement them. I don't think it's correct to call UVD a counterpart of VDPAU. UVD is a bunch of registers on newer AMD cards. And if you sent bits to those registers in the right way, you can implement VDPAU.
The other way to implement VDPAU (say if the documentation for UVD registers was not released) is to use gallium. There is a gallium state tracker which can still do it at the expense of being slower. It is a hack whereby you convert video frames to polygon textures and make the OpenGL part of the card think that it's calculating part of a 3D scene when really it's decoding video.

I am so confused about iCloud. My husband says he never set it up but all is information is on both his iPad and iPhone. How can that be and do I have to have iTunes Match?

I am so confused about iCloud. My husband says he never set it up but all is information is on both his iPad and iPhone. How can that be and do I have to have iTunes Match?

"All his information" may or may not include things customarily stored in iCloud. Perhaps all the information is on both devices because they were both recently synced using the same iTunes sync.
Do you have to have iTunes Match? No. Many folks do not have iTunes Match. The music purchased from iTunes is always available to the purchaser. Other music is stored in iTunes on the person's computer.

Confused about cpu information here can you help plz

if you look below at this link
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=579850&Sku=CP1-P430008NC&SRCCODE=PRICEGRABBER
Manufacturer Part No: BX80532PG3000D is right here but now look at this website below
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=779130/search=intel%2520pentium%25204/ut=c723210b9e568565
the manufaturing number are the same but if you read the info on the first link it says 3.6Ghz and the seconed link says 3.0Ghz now is there a BIG (_*_) Mistake or are the company TigerDirect being too specific causing me to be insane lol huh ? Please help me I am trying to get a 3.2Ghz chip egzactley the same as in link 2 but 3.2Ghz not 3.0Ghz are they out yet?
Please help Thank You very much :P

I am so happy that I am an MSI guy here at this lovely forum I mean you all helped me so much and you did not have to but I do apreesheate it a lot from you guys I do know that I will be tossing plenty of money in to this chip but the reason why it so high at tigerdirect is because you are paying for there name brand and there product but I love shoping at there store because they are always polite there over the phone and I always get there best service there so I don't mind paying an extra few hundread dollors for there stuff.
The reason for tossing so much money into this machine is no im not rich we or shall I say I am avrage I have a good job and still live with my parants so I have no utility bills to pay except insurance for my car every month but other then that I can save up quickley if I manage my money the right way hehe. But anywho I paid for the new from soyo SY-P4i875P Dragon2 Platinum Edition Motherboard capable of 3.02Ghz and will have a 3.00Ghz in it with HT I bought it from http://www.Outpost.com/ witch I did love there service all around but if you pay by check be prepared to wait for 2 weeks lol god lee don't they know wow to torture there customers hehe so plz use money orders hehe but they sent it airborne express I belive thats what it is called correct me if im wrong. and that was quick hehe and also they make sure the person gets it too by having me sign for the package hehe I love how that works.
I guess you guys are like havent he heard of paragraphs hehe:) Nope sure havent but since I went all out on video and sound I thought hey you know what why don't I dump this AMD and go for Intel pentium but before this desicion came around I was working on my Shuttle AK31 v3.1 and come to find out I ordered the wrong cpu when after I upgraded my bios to handle the xp2100+ cpu 1.73Ghz Thurobroud and was running the 1900+ 1.60Ghz Palimieo or what ever it was called but find out it would on;y run the paliminio chip so I was like well I don't want to overclock my board and put any stress on the board so I will put that 1900+ back in so I take my computer apart and go to take off the volcano 7+ fan made by thermaltake and requires a screwdriver flathead and a bit of skill in there words be carfull and use our product at your risk...lol
anyways the scredriver sliped and broke off a micro transister and I was like oh crap and could had cryed for damaging my babie but I belive it was time to move on and that is why it hapened when it did hehe..
but I called tigerdirect to get back on to the subject and told them what I was confused about and magell was his name I believe and he said yes it was a 3.00Ghz and the HT was what made it clock like a 3.06Ghz processor. So I was like wooo thats a relief and was so happy now I will order all of this below hope yo like my system hehe I know I will.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=C13-5100
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=471762&Sku=T925-1050&CatId=795
http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?T1=148+0070
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=579850&Sku=CP1-P430008NC
Pricie hu I will have over 3 grand in my computer lol thats a lot for my hobby but the games are ausome let me tell ya I can't wait for half live 2 I think to come out and I love war games and sniper games like counter strike the graphics are grate
Also I heard that intel is making a chip next year called the Xeron or somthin and will be 4.00Ghz with HT and the i874 and i8875 chip sets might not be compatible if they change there chip desighn could this also be true too has any one heard this or not? but I will let you go and give your eyes a rest but I thought I should thank yo both for your help and the link I do apreesheate it a lot and hope that everything runs smooth and fast You think?

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Hi
I'm a bit confused about what JTable::setCellEditor does.
I wrote my own TableCellEditor implementation which can handle dates and other additional stuff and which can decide for itself what type of editing control to display.
Now I want my table to use only this editor.
However using
tblTest.setCellEditor( MyEditorInstance );didn't work. But when I used
tblTest.getColumnModel().getColumn(0).setCellEditor( MyEditorInstance );
tblTest.getColumnModel().getColumn(1).setCellEditor( MyEditorInstance );
tblTest.getColumnModel().getColumn(2).setCellEditor( MyEditorInstance );for every column it worked fine.
How can I avoid setting the default editor manually and set it for all columns?
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Marcus

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If you don't set a cell editor to a column then JTable determines which of its default editors to use based on the Class returned from the getColumnClass() method, which is defined by the JTable and the TableModel. If you are using the default implementation of this method then it will always return Object as the class type. You can use your editor as the default by doing:
table.setDefaultEditor(Object.class, MyEditorInstance);

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Hi Everyone,
I've been looking at the iPod Touch and it seems like the best-designed player on the market. I'm a journalist and I want to use the Touch to play my interviews, which are voice recordings in WMA format (converted to MP3).
OK, I'd love to do some basic things, and I'm confused about what the June update will offer.
Please tell me if the June apps will allow these capabilities:
1. Play voice recordings with the speaker instead of headphones
2. Allow me to create a folder on the home page to go directly to my voice recordings
3. Drag-and-drop files in Windows explorer directly into a folder on the home page
Yes, I know, I'm trying to use the Touch for an unusual thing, but I think there are a lot of other journalists and bloggers out there who would also use the Touch if it could provide these capabilities!
I'm not interested in fancy games for the Touch. I'm much more interested in expanding basic capabilities.
If I know the Touch will be able to do these things, I'd buy one today!
Thanks,
Matt

neuroanatomist,
Thanks for the response. This is all very interesting...
I understand it's not a real speaker, but I have heard some demos where it was used to play rudimentary sounds. That's why I wonder if it would be good enough for simple voice playback.
I know some people like this, but I don't like is having to always drill down several "layers" to get to my actual recordings. Instead of having to do Music > Album > Playlist, I'd really like to just have folders on the home page. To my mind, this does not sound like a difficult thing to be able to do, though maybe I'm missing something here.
On the drag-and-drop thing: of course, I understand Apple's need to force us to use iTunes. I like iTunes, and use it for music all the time, even though I don't have an iPod at the moment. But it just seems to me that Apple would not suffer if you could drag and drop your valid music files (or voice recordings) directly into folders on the iPod. You'd still have to own legal music files, bought from iTunes.
Anyway, if these hurdles could be overcome, I'd buy an iPod Touch today. At the moment, it's a tough choice. Several other players do some of the things I am asking for, though none of them has the elegance of the iPod.
I just wish Apple would put their elegance together with the capabilities of other players.
Matthew

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