AMD64 3200 + MSI K8T Neo FISR2 memory problem

I've had one KVR400X64C25/512 and it have worked like a charm. Now I've bought another one (total 1gb).
When I've inserted it and start the computer I only get the CoreCell logo scren, it do not boot correctly.
AMIBIOS is version 3.21a
I've tried the following:
* run only the new memory [works]
* run only the old memory [works]
* DIMM1 + DIMM3 [only CoreCell screen]
* DIMM1 + DIMM2 [only CoreCell screen]
* DIMM2 + DIMM3 [only a black screen]
what should I do?

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 22-August-05, 21:48:12
A PSU is rated to run at +/-5% and that is well within it's rating. As for wether ists big enough there is no way we can say as you still did not give full system specs.
If it won't run with the third stick of RAM then pull it out for the moment and see if the system will boot again. If it does then during post you will see a Bios version listed. That board only supports Bios versions to 2.2 at the moment so please also list what actuall Bios version you have.
Ok, have booted with one instead of two sticks (one works, two don't, do not have three sticks)..
AMIBIOS A6702VMS v2.2 released 030405. The autodetect settings (at startup): Clock = 400Mhz, CAS 2.5 which seems correct.
More info:
AMD64 3200
MSI K8T Neo FISR2
AMIBIOS A6702VMS v2.2
Seagate 120GB SATA (no ides)
CD rw + DVD-r combo drive
floppy drive
Saphire GF6800 (no GT or Ultra)
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum Ex
that's whats running in it

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MSI K8T Neo FIS2R - Memory problem???

I have bought myself a second stick of ram for my computer, being careful to make sure it was exactly the same brand and model.
In spite of this I now get random bluescreen errors of varying types, the first was PFN_LIST_CORRUPT and the latest:
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA
STOP: 0x00000050 (0xC5AD0D7C, 0x0000000, 0x8050298A, 0x0000000)
Is the new ram incompatible?? this makes no sense though..... ???

I have tried switching ram sticks around but no luck there
Got three BSOD's yesterday, no specific error just STOP: blah blah blah when trying to burn a CD and then after that just when using IE.....
........and then I played call of duty 2 for 3hours without a single problem
Today when trying to run FS2 open I got two IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL errors (with no driver mentioned)
Anyway, I have been doing some research on socket 754 athlon 64's, and I found some interesting info from AMD:
Where MSI says that the board supports that config at DDR400. so the board supports it but the CPU doesn't! what is the point of that??
I tried running at DDR333 but the CPU stuck at 1.8GHZ (150FSBx12) according to everest
Is it possible at all to run two sticks of Double sided ram at DDR400? surely someone has done it and has it working....
Another thing, after the first IRQL error my computer hung at detecting the CD-RW drive and I had to turn off and on again ???

AMD64 2800+ & MSI K8T NEO Freezing !!

AMD64 2800+ (stock cooling) (socket 754)
MSI K8T Neo (Chipset : VIA K8T800)
1x 512 DDR 400MHz PC 3200
1x WD SATA 160gb 7200 RPM, 8mb cache (disk fans)
1x WD IDE 40gb 7200 RPM, 2mb cache
Leadtek Winfast 6600GT (Extra power molex)
Terratec TV Value
PSU 350W (''unnamed'' PSU (Vikings..) (i think it's PSU Problem)
2x 80mm FANS
Nothing is Overclocked.
1.)
PC is freezing randomly, but i have launched memtest, and burn in test for cpu, it was on all the night and no errors,,
Probably it's the PSU problem not giving enough power, i have this problems since i've installed my new 6600GT, and new disk. (SATA)
2.)
. I have disabled all the WAKEUP things in BIOS and Windows(NEtwork card) if i SHUTDOWN MY PC, it randomly turns on after I do SHUTDOWN ?? after a minute?? and sometimes not :S i don't really know what's the problem, but i'm aiming at PSU, i have tried many things... What do you guys think?
PSU Stats are :
+5V = 30A
+12V= 15A
-5V = 0.5A
-12V = 0.8A
+3.3 = 14A
+5 VSB = 2A
+5&+3.3 V = TOTAL OUTPUT 180W
OUTPUT MAX = 350 W
Stats of my PSU, that is now in !
Can 350W Noname PSU handle normally and stable my sistem?
i personally think problem is at PSU
(I'm looking forward to BUY LC 550W...)
Any suggestions?

1.) Yes i have disabled all the WakeUP Things :S
Should be unstable Power / Bad PSU ?
2.)
Probably this should be the problem -> recommend at least 400W, at least 20A on 12v.... amd uses more 12v lines, i think this my 350w noname should be the prob !!
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=46719.0
Any more suggestions, so i should go for a NEW PSU for sure?
And what PSU gimme links :P what's the best.. (Price/Performance)
I'm looking at LC 550W, pro's / contras?
''Power'' : ''550 Watts''
+3.3 V: 32A
+5.0 V: 40A
+12.0 V: 24A
-5 V: 0,5A
-12 V: 1A
+5Vsb: 2,0A
http://www.lc-power.com/htm/products_detail.php?lang=2&h_id=1&u_id=2&a_id=26
.. TY !!!

K8T800 K8T NEO-FSR Memory Problems

Just a warning before I start in, this is a pretty long post. I'm going to try to include all the information I can.
Here's my system right now. It's running Windows XP Professional with all the latest updates.
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor. Not overclocked at all.
Motherboard: MSI K8T800 K8T NEO-FSR, latest BIOS updates from MSI
Video Card: ATI RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, latest Catalyst drivers from ATI installed. Not overclocked at all.
Memory: Mushkin 184 Pin 2x512MB DDR400 PC-3200, running at DDR400 with Auto selected for all the memory timings in the BIOS. Memory placed in DIMM#1 and DIMM#2. Not overclocked at all.
Hard Drive: Western Digital 80 Gig
I started experiencing random reboots and critical errors in game applications on Sunday. The computer would randomly reboot at random intervals from Windows. In addition, while running games like Warcraft 3, Asheron's Call, or World of Warcraft I would receive frequent critical errors that certain sections of the memory could not either be read or written to.
I figured that there was some kind of problem with the memory, so I downloaded Memtest86 and ran it. The first stick of RAM was in DIMM#1 and the second stick in DIMM#2. This was the memory configuration during all the random reboots and critical errors.
Memtest86 came up with several failures during the 5th phase of the test. The same failures came up upon repeated testing in the same phase of the test. I decided to try to isolate the failure and see if one stick or the other was defective. I yanked out the second stick from DIMM#2 and left the first stick in DIMM#1. The first stick (which I'll refer to as the "good RAM stick") passed the memtest repeatedly. I then stuck the second RAM stick into DIMM#1 alone and the computer would not even POST.
I then moved the second RAM stick (which I'll refer to as the "bad RAM stick") over to DIMM#2 alone and managed to get it to POST. The bad stick failed the memtest with the exact same errors during the same phase of testing as the combined sticks had failed during the initial test. For the sake of completeness, I moved the bad stick over to DIMM#1 alone and finally managed to get it to POST. However, the bad stick passed the memtest repeatedly. Puzzled, I moved the bad stick over to DIMM#3 alone and tested it there, which it also passed repeatedly. I moved it back into DIMM#2 alone and it failed the test repeatedly again and again.
Intrigued, I then moved the good RAM stick into DIMM#2 alone, to try to see if perhaps there was some kind of motherboard error occurring. The good stick passed the memtest repeatedly in DIMM#2. I then moved the good stick into DIMM#3 alone and it passed the test repeatedly in that slot.
After checking the motherboard manual to make sure I could do it, I put the bad stick in DIMM#1 and the good stick in DIMM#3 and ran the memtest. The combined sticks passed the test where previously, while configured in DIMM#1 and DIMM#2, they had failed it. I moved the sticks back into DIMM#1 and DIMM#2 to test again. The combined sticks failed as they had during the initial test.
I then reconfigured the sticks to DIMM#1 and DIMM#3 again and booted up the system. Although I only had limited testing time last night, I seemed to be totally stable. The system did not reboot at all and I actually managed to play WoW for an hour without a single crash.
Any suggestions on what's occuring? I figured that maybe the mobo's memory seating in DIMM#2 was messed up, but I wanted to get some more guidance from others.

Well if it's an Antec Sl-350, that one only has 16A @ 12V, way too little to handle your system.....
I would get another PSU in any case, as even the TP-380 is bare minimum.....
Go for the Enermax 465 it has 33A @ 12V and then you are sure it's not a power problem...
Also, a good PSU is never a waiste of money

MSI K8t NEO + Audigy Boot Problem only when power is unplugged on the PSU

I ran into a really weird problem today.
I switched the ps off by reaching back and pressing the button. I repress the button to power on the ps, then I click on the button in the fron of the case to power up the machine. System keeps rebooting itself every 1 sec. Bracket shows 4 red lights. In the manual, it says it means bad cpu. I remove the audigy and it boots fine. I install the audigy, 4 red lights.
So, This time instead of turning the puter off by using the button on ps. I used the button on the case by holding it down for 5 seconds. I reboot and puter boots normally.
So the problem is, if i turn the puter off by using the button on the PS and with audigy in the syste. Nothing on screen, and puter keeps rebooting itself every one second. Solution is to turn the puter off by using the button on the case.
Has anyone ran into this problem? I have never had this kind of problem. It is really weird. Any feedback is apreciated.
Oh and it is only with audigy. I tested this with original live, and also other PCI cards like nic, and another cheap sound card. Non of these cards showed this problem.

Cavemankr!
I never knew you could shut down the computer by holding down the start button for 5 seconds.... well I've never really had the need to...until I got this K8T Neo job. I wondered why it wouldn't turn off when I just pushed it. I've been using the PSU switch with these problems.
Yep! She booted right up. Audigy back in action. I also realized I had my PC hooked straight in the wall (while checking to see if my surge protector was working this weekend), so turning off the surge protector wasn't cutting power to the cheapo PSU.
So put me in your camp!
I'll just plug the PC straight into the UPS and keep power fed to the Enermax. I hope that was the cause of my keyboard/mouse cold boot problem also.
I'll assume the cheapo PSU will behave similarly. I don't really want to go through the swap again.
I wonder why that happens!
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MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R: RAM problems

I have the motherboard K8T NEO-FIS2R with AMIBIOS 2VMS V2.0 010505.
I tried these DDR-RAM:
DDR-RAM 512MB PC400 CL3 Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512
DDR-RAM 512MB PC400 CL3 Samsung
but the motherboard recognizes only 256 MB for both. The RAM are good: I tried them in an other pc!
Now I have installed an A-DATA ram 256 MB and the motherboard recognizes 256 MB!
Do you think that my motherboard is defective?
Thank you in advance.
P.S. I'm sorry for my bad english.

No the memory controller is onboard the CPU so in any case the MB is not defective. However the CPU revision may hold you back on some RAM especially if you mix make and model RAM on the same channel. A socket 754 CPU only has one channel so all RAM must be matched to work properly.
If those Sticks can only be seen as a wrong value when used by themselves it is likely that either they have errors or the timings in Bios are improperly set to azllow them to work. In this case you can normally find out what is going on by running memtest86. If you get errors on test 5 or 7 then you have timgs timed improperly and any other errors would show bad RAM.
Another case is not having enough power for everything to work properly together. Usually this happens when you don't have enough 12v amps for these newer rigs.
Post complete specs and test results and maybe we can help you further.

K8T Neo-FIS2R Memory Problems

Hello,
First can I say thanx in advance for any help that I might get, I'm new to this board and I appretiate the hard work you all put in to the comunity.
The problem originaly was that this board would only work with one memory stick. It did not matter how big it was 256 - 512 - 1GB, it would boot, but if I added another say 2X 512 the system would not boot, the screen would just stay black. I upgraded the bios from the MSI site - the file name was 6702v22.zip.
The system now boots fine with 2X memory sticks is (that cured it), but now I find that I cant alter the memory timings. No matter what I set the CAS to it always defaults to 3, Its like its stuck on auto for some reason. I reset the bios after the flash, and tried different slots, different memory sticks, but the bios seems to ignore any manual settings I put in there.
Can anyone shed some light ?
Thanx
Umpa....

Duh. I read your post completely. The reason behind asking for specs is simply to investigate issues with older CPU's running the newer Bios's and vice versus. Yes there are known issues but as you are not going to supply specs then I am not going any further either. However you already have guessed my point and yes I have one of those MB's myself and can tell you firsthand what happened to me when I ran my older CPU with the newest Bios.
While that may or may not be the answer think about this;
This guys calls up a car mechanic and asks if he can help him with his car. The guys tells the mechanic that it makes a noise when the engine is turned on.
The Mechanic replies that he would like to know what type of car this is and if he can describe the noise.
The customer says, It's a red car and it growls.
The Mechanic replies that it would cost aboy $50,000 to fix.
The Customer is floored as he does not understand.
The Mechanic replies that without further info the best he can do is to replace the entire car.
Granted that is kind of a stupid story but rememer that we don't have a crystal ball. The symptoms you describe with out us knowing more could be a few different things but trying to give an appropriate answer is difficult to pinpoint better without good info. It could be the RAM, the PSU, the Bios or maybe a setting. It may even be something stupid like the RAM socket combo your using. LMAO Yes that can also lead to this kind of thing happening as it did for me when I first got mine setup. I also had stability issues until I changed from sockets 1 and 2 to 1 and 3.
Ao you can see there is no single answer that will fit. I could care less about what hardware you run nor can anyone else here other than to help you. So go ahead and be stubborn about helping us help you. It's your rig that needs help not ours.

MSI K8T-NEO: Two small problems

1) I can't get the HDD activity LED to work. I have the connector (2pin) plugged into pin 1 and 3 of JFP1. I have disabled both SATA controllers in the bios and have reversed the HDD connector on the board.
2) I have the PSU fan monitor connected to the PFAN1 connector. However I do not see the result in Core-center or anywhere else.
Thanks,
Jason
AMD 64 3200+
512 MB PC-2100 ram
Maxtor 40GB (IDE1-master)
WD 20GB (IDE1-slave)
LG CD-RW (IDE2 master)
Antec TruePower 430W PSU
SB Live 5.1
Powercolor Radeon 9600 Pro

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Originally posted by Ycore
1) I can't get the HDD activity LED to work. I have the connector (2pin) plugged into pin 1 and 3 of JFP1. I have disabled both SATA controllers in the bios and have reversed the HDD connector on the board.
2) I have the PSU fan monitor connected to the PFAN1 connector. However I do not see the result in Core-center or anywhere else.
Thanks,
Jason
AMD 64 3200+
512 MB PC-2100 ram
Maxtor 40GB (IDE1-master)
WD 20GB (IDE1-slave)
LG CD-RW (IDE2 master)
Antec TruePower 430W PSU
SB Live 5.1
Powercolor Radeon 9600 Pro
Update: I was wrong about the PSU fan speed showing in BIOS. I just checked to be sure, but it's not there either.

MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R Sound Problem

Why does the sound cut out after a period of about 5 hrs or more it completely stops in windows XP havent tryed any other OS, i keep having to restart the computer to bring the sound back!
Any help on this would be greatly Appreciated

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Originally posted by joshr45
Why does the sound cut out after a period of about 5 hrs or more it completely stops in windows XP havent tryed any other OS, i keep having to restart the computer to bring the sound back!
Any help on this would be greatly Appreciated
Do you have LiveUpdate installed (or whatever it is called)? When I was using the onboard sound (moved to an Audigy2 ZS) the sound would go once Live Update had searched the web for available BIOS/Driver updates. I only had mine set weekly but sods law meant that I ended up with no sound for a Rugby World cup I had recorded on my AIW pro (aaaarrgghh). It would only come back with a reboot.
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K8t neo winxp pro problems

hi
i recently bought a bunch of new computer parts:
amd64 3200+
msi k8t neo v1.0 (flashed to 1.1)
2 x 512mb mushkin lvl 2 pc 3500
2 x 36.7 WD raptor SATA drives
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radeon 9800xt
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I can't install windows XP on my computer; everytime i try to install xp pro my computer goes all the way up to formatting the partition for win xp, but then a BSOD pops up. It changes every now and then. What am I doing wrong? Is it my hardware? I just can't figure it out. Maybe bios settings? My raid array? Please help. I've been up for 10 hours straight trying to get this to work.
anyone who has a setup like this can you pm me a step by step?

Check your ram timings in bios. Encrease your voltage on the memory to
2.75 settings 2-2-2-6. I am using the same memory and it is rated up to 2.75.
I agree with the first poster BSOD is a memory error.

[S754 MSI K8T NEO] Some onboard usb ports are 1.1 instead of 2.0 ?

I own a socket 754 MSI K8T Neo FISR2 mainboard. Due to a lot of USB devices I'm using all ports and it seems like some ports are USB1.1 instead of USB2.0 The manual tells me this mainboard has 8 USB 2.0 ports, but only 2 out of 4 onboard ports at the rear (beneath the PS/2 connectors) seems to be 2.0. At 1 internal connector I do also have connected a frontside USB connector which is 2.0 and at the other connector a memory card reader which also seems to be USB1.1.
Can someone explain me this is a 'feature' of this board or do I have to upgrade a driver or something?
In the bios I have enabled all USB-ports and I'm running Windows XP SP2. With Windows Vista Beta2 I even can't get those 'usb 1.1' ports to work.

It's already solved. I just found this topic: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=73390.0
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MSI k8t neo booting issue

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AMD athlon 64 3200+
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Antec 400w PS
2x Corsair 512mb Valueram
Samsung 160GB SATA
Gainward 5700FX Ultra 128mb Golden sample
Samsung DVD-rom
SAmsung DVD/RW
i think thats everything... anyways
i have an odd problem. When i first turned it on, the HD was on the Promise Controller. tried installing XP, hit F6, ect, setup would not recognize HD. so i put it on the Via, disabled the promise, installed XP. computer reboots, POST's, blank screen.
tried several times, but each time after the Bios and raid stuff, i get a blank screen. now, if i try and reinstall XP, it hangs on the "Setup is checking your hardware configuration..." and just stays there. any ideas?

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Originally posted by Nevyn
well, its 18A actually. after a while, i tried aa IDE HD, same problem. then after even more fiddling, i got it too boot. it seems it refuses to get past POST if there is anything connected too USB. and if i plug in a usb mouse after, it just doesn't work. also, the D-led thingy was NOT lighting up during boot. and guesses?
18 is the minimum of what people recommend, but you should be ok.
In BIOS make sure emulation and legacy USB are disable, and set USB ports to 8.
Ian

MSI K8T Neo Motherboard not recognising HDD

G'day all. I have recently bought various computer parts to install them myself. I installed them reading the instructions to the letter. Below is my system.
AMD64 3000
MSI K8T Neo
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Seagate 160GB SATA HDD
Pioneer Multiformat Burner
Sony DVD-ROM
1.44MB FDD
I started the system up for the first time, and on the startup DOS style, 'BIOS not loaded', comes up. Then, it comes to the bit where Energy symbol is displayed. I hit F1 to go to setup. And looking at Primary Master, there is no HDD listed. I have the two cd/dvd drives on IDE2. leaving IDE1 open. The HDD is plugged into power and the orange SATA cable is plugged into Serial1, and ive tried it in SATA1. No luck. Also, Im curious as to why my FDD's light is on constantly.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Im pretty sure once I get the HDD recognised, I load windows xp and its pretty much smooth sailing from there. Thanks in advance.
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Originally posted by Chimera
Alright! It recognised it . Yes, the FDD cable was upside down ! And the instructions everyone gave me were accurate to the letter. No my keyboard is PS/2. But who cares now, Ive loaded windows, formatted HDD, got every possible driver loaded. And some games too! Im off to play my new system, ahh 1GB of ram wif an X800. Thankyou very much to everyone who took the time to help me.
Maximus thankus!
We were glad to do it! When build as many computers as we all have you run into just about every foible.
We have all had our moments despite experience.
Now if someone can give ME a simple solution I will party with you. hehe
Ian

MSI K8T Neo 2 FISR Memory problems....

Could someone please help me
I have a MSI K8T Neo 2 mobo, with 500w powersupply, AMD 64 3500+, and 4 sticks of 512mb PC3200 ram (not all installed).
2 of my sticks were bought from PC world as PC3200 DDR400 ram.
The other 2 are Nanya 512mb PC3200 DDR400 ram.
I ONLY NEED TO USE 2 OF THESE STICKS.
This motherboard was chosen so that i could run DUAL channel.
However when running memory in slots 1 and 3 as manual suggests, the pc crashes when playing games. If i run 1 stick in slot 1 it happily runs all day long.
I have tried running memory in slots 1 and 2 but only making a frequency of 157.1mhz. See screenshot of CPU-Z:
MY MEMORY CONFIG
Surely this should be 200Mhz?
Basically i can only make 200mhz using a single stick and no joy with dual channel.

Don't know if this will help
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Msi k8t neo fis2r problems part 3

sometimes when the computer is turned on it just turns the fans and leds on but doesnt boot up...
most of the time it loads up and i boot to the windows xp cd and i install the drivers for sata and then when it reaches the point of copying the files it will give me a bsod and say that there is a problem with the irql driver and then force me to shut the pc down..
sometimes it makes it past that and will begin to copy files onto the hard drive, like somehow the data is becoming corrupted..however it will start to say that the files cant copy randomly and it will allow me to retry..they will copy the 2nd time usually..i can keep hitting retry and it will usually go by..it gets to 30 something % and then crashes to bsod just giving me some random error..for some reason the files keep screwing up that go on the sata drive....I just replaced the old power supply that wasnt working with an antec true watt 430 watt power supply, so i know it isnt that..
i just cant figure out what the heck is going on..any help would be appreciated.my specs are
"IRQ NOT EQUAL OR LESS"
athlon 64 3000+ cpu
msi k8t neo fis2r motherboard
mushkin special cas 2.0 2-2-2-5 512 mb pc 3200
western digital 8mb cache 80 gb sata hard drive
sapphire radeon 9800 pro 128 mb 8x agp

fyi look an your cd sticker ity will show power, consumption, but they are way lower than you would think, hard drives,can be only 10 watts, less then some case lights , and fans, cd are similar.. your video, is the biggy somewhere between 90~150 watts..yikes .next to the cpu..and the mobo can use 50 or so (not sure about new mobos) not to mention the ram 1024 is @40 watts or so., dont forget about 25watts per pci card, not counting the sound card which can be double....
ergo the need for a big psu..
the combined total ratting on a psu is not the max number that the psu is rated, that is surge value.. so a 500 may only hold 400 sustained , and that will drop as the machine heats up, so in the end your 500 may onlyy pull 366 @50'c...

AMD64 3200 + MSI K8T Neo FISR2 memory problem

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