Aperture 3 White Balance range

I recently took a handful of photos under some garishly unbalanced street lights. I took a greycard shot and used custom white balance in my Canon camera, which caused the photos to come out surprisingly well but not perfect.
When I loaded the photos up in Aperture, I thought that two or three pictures could use some additional tweaking. By making any white balance adjustment at all in the application, it reset the white balance to 2000K -- which is actually above the temperature of the lights.
I can't seem to manually set the white balance to any lower value, and the only way I can get rid of a color cast is to disable any White Balance adjustment (thus using the setting from the RAW file).
Is there any way to extend the range of Aperture's white balance adjustments? Is this the sort of thing that ought to work its way into a feature request?
(Just for conversation's sake, the location in question was the Campbell Community Center's parking lot during a San Jose Bike Party. Anyone from the Aperture team is welcome to take some snapshots there if they doubt the necessity of a wider white balance range...)

Have you tried tweaking it with the curves adjustment? Sometimes you correct colour casts a bit more precisely with a simple "auto split" curves adjustment, or by tweaking the curves themselves manually.
Have a look in the manual starting at p536 and also check out p549 specifically.

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    Hello Tony,
    welcome to the Aperture Forum of the Apple Support Communities. Can you explain a little bit more, which default setting you are talking about?
    At first I thought you were talking about the default setting for the White Balance adjustment in the adjustment panel of the Library inspector. But that one is set to a color temperature of 5000K (Horizon daylight), a suitable preset for landscape photography - at least, that setting is what I see in my Aperture version.
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    Regards
    Léonie

  • Extended white balance range

    I made this request back during beta 3, I think. I shoot an IR-converted dSLR, and would love it if Lightroom's white balance range didn't stop at 2000k. As it is, I have to make radical adjustments to other settings to make images look "correct" in color. Extending the WB range would help considerably.
    I would also love it if LR could be made to recognize Canon's "color styles" settings.

    Actually this has been requsted a few times previously. So you are not alone.
    Don
    Don Ricklin, MacBook 1.83Ghz Duo 2 Core running 10.4.8 & Win XP, Pentax *ist D
    http://donricklin.blogspot.com/

  • Aperture: White Balance in Adjustments inspector no longer appears by default

    Aperture 3.3.2
    In the past week, the White Balance adjustment in the Adjustments inspector no longer appears by default in my program. It's always been there, above Exposure, Enhance, and Highlights and Shadows.
    Now, White Balance is gone, and I have to click 'add adjustment... White Balance' for every single photo, which is hugely frustrating. I shoot in Canon RAW.
    What happened to my default White Balance, and can someone help me put it back?
    Thanks!

    Click the cogwheel beside the White Balance adjustment and add this adjustment to the default set.
    Regards
    Léonie

  • Iso, Shutter Speed, Aperture, White balance for music videos or film?

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    your questions are about the very basics of photography.
    I would consider to buy a book, which explains photography 'from the ground' ("... for dummies.." not meant as an offence!)
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    Imagine the light as a stream of tiny balls, coming from your scenery: a bigger hole = aperture lets more balls into the cam. A shorter shutter speed reduces the amount of balls. And a higher ISO catches more balls than a lower. ..
    Understanding that, you realize that those parameters are crosswise-related: an open aperture + a shorter shutter speed results in the same amount of light on the sensor as a closed aperture and a longer shutter speed.
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    If the amount of light is too little, open the aperture, or use a longer shutter speed or raise the sensitivity.
    When you set one or two parameters in this equation, you have to adjust the other ones: Video-makers start with the shutter speed, usually set to 1/2 of frame-rate = 1/50 - 1/60 - why? Because it allows a nice looking 'smear' aka motion-blur aka 'film look'.
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  • Pentax K5 / Apple Aperture - White Balance Inconsistency

    Used my new Pentax K5 with studio flash for the first time on Saturday. I got some peculiar colour temperature results. Can anyone explain this?
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    4479 K / -7
    4463 K/ -8
    4469 K / -11
    4563 K / -8
    4572 K / -8
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  • Aperture white balance only goes to 2500 where Lightroom goes to 2000

    I shoot with a Leica M8, which has poor white balance. I was unable to remove red cast with aperture, while Ligthroom had no problems. I noticed the white balance sliders in aperture only go to 2500. Lower numbers can be input manually, but that prevents sliding until right. Is there any way to adjust the slider settings?

    Robo,
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  • Can you remove the camera white balance setting in Aperture

    I have a Canon 7D and use Aperture for processing and storing my images.
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    I use the Aperture white balance adjustments frequently but unless there is a patch or white or grey I an use the dropper on, I find this particular situation seems to be right off the scale of what I can fix in Aperture.  I end up with sliders at the extremes of the scales and no intuitive sense of what numbers to type in manually to try and get realistic colour - so I often end up discarding these photos even if the shot itself is something I'd like to use.
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    Kirkby - thanks for the quick reply.
    Didn't know you could drag inside a value field - that's helpful.
    But being able to get different numbers on the slider isn't the root of my problem.
    In a specific example I have two photos - one taken with white balance set to flash and the photo was with flash, where after a bit of tweaking to get the colour I want the temp slider is at 5000K (and tint 0).  The second photo has my shooting error with interior lighting white balance but taken with flash.  The two shots were taken from almost the same point of the same view (but different people in frame).  The shot with the white balance error comes off camera horribly blue coloured. I can fiddle with the two sliders - I take temperature to 20000K and tint to 40 to do the best with it I can, and with those settings one of the two faces is approaching flesh colour but the wall behind the subjects (which is a light blue in reality) is now appearing light yellow in places.  I just can't get a good looking colour effect no matter ow extreme the slider settings.
    I may have phrased my question badly - as I totally agree you can't show a raw without a colour setting - so maybe I'm better asking to be able to use a different colour setting on the raw data rather than having to start with adjustments on top of my white balance mistake.
    Given the two shots were in the same place against the same background and the same lighting (both with flash) it seems to me I ought to be able to get a similar colour effect on both and I just can't.  To illustrate here are the two photos (the one on the left was shot with flash wb and in Aperture I'm viewing it with 5000K and 0 tint, the one on the right was shot with indoor wb and in Aperture I'm viewing it with 20000K and 40 tint and it looks terrible!)
    https://www.box.com/shared/qle3t6ovyhrd1egez3vc

  • Mark III extreme manual white balance.

    I recently photographed a concert which had nothing but purple lighting.   I set my Canon 5D MkIII to a manual white balance.  To  my surprise,  the camera was able to properly balance the color and my whites appeared white.   I loaded the images into lightroom and the preview showed a properly balanced photo.  As soon as the photo was finished loading,  the color snapped to what would look like an auto white balance.  (my whites were now purple like the lights).  In any other application,  the white balance is spot on.  In light room,  the color is extremely purple.
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    Joe93452444,
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    Raw images don't have a WB setting in the Raw data. When shooting Raw the WB setting that you select in the camera is only a metadata tag.
    This WB tag is initially read by Lr but Lr then evaluates the image and applies its own WB setting. Thus the Wb in Lr can be different than what you see in camera.
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    c) by using the WB and Tint sliders in Develop Module / basic panel.

  • Canon EOS 550D JPEGs don't show white balance EXIF info in Aperture

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  • Problem transferring white balance Exif info from iPhoto to Aperture

    I originally posted this question on the Aperture discussions page, but it was suggested to me that maybe I should try asking it on the iPhoto page as well.
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  • Does Aperture always apply white balance to RAW files?

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    Mr Endo wrote:
    So, my questions:
    Does anyone have a camera to whose RAW files Aperture does not apply in-camera white balance settings?
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    2.  The problem here isn't that this is an exception -- it's that different people mean different things when they say "RAW".  The RAW data is RAW data.  As above, the WB setting has no effect on it.  But the image derived from the data -- any image produced from the data -- much have a WB set (and, for human use, a tone-curve applied).  Some people mistaken think that RAW is an image format, or that the image produced by the RAW converter is a "RAW" image.  It is not.  RAW data must be converted to an image format in order to be displayed as an image.  The conversion must apply a WB.
    I have found it useful (though perhaps mistaken) to conceive of my data-gathering to picture-making as following these steps:
    . Capture a pattern of light.  This is just data.
    . Convert the data to an image.  RAW conversion done by Aperture.  (NB: the settings for this can be changed.)
    . Adjust the image to my artistic satisfaction
    . Convert the adjusted image to an image format file
    . Publish the image-format file in one or two now standard forms: to be viewed on a computer monitor, or as a print.
    I mention only because at some point I consciously added the "Convert data to image" step in order to better grasp the process.  RAW data is RAW data -- but that step identifies an intermediate that many overlook.  At that step the information recorded along with the RAW data and stored in the RAW file is applied to the RAW data.
    To me, "RAW is RAW" is correct.  "Aperture will not apply any camera settings," is wrong.
    I am happy for any clarifications or corrections.

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    Get my RAW images down loaded into a new project,
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    That depends on what you want to do with your images.
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