Aperture and iPhoto - do they co-exist?

I have been using iPhotos to import all pictures/videos from Digital Camera, iPhones, iPads for over year, although I never knew where the files were stored. In the past I could only email photos within the iPhotos 11 s/w itself, but I could not attach an file in Gmail/Ymail etc.
Until last night I installed Aperture 3. I selected a folder "Pictures" and clicked Import from iPhoto Library, then I was shocked ....my Macbook HDD space shrinks from 40GB free to 1.29GB and still keep shrinking....Was Aperture copying my picture files and double-occupy my HDD space? The import runs for over 4 hours, and during that time I have to remove some of my music, videos, TV shows in Tunes to trash (to free up another 20 GB of space). Until Aperture finished importing all photos, I had only 2.5GB free
This morning I checked iPhoto, and it seems that all pictures were still there. I tried to delete a picture in iPhoto, but it still shows up in Aperture 3.
Questions -
1). How to avoid "duplication" of pictures on my MacBook Pro (i.e. iPhotos + Aperture)
2). Now all my pictures were "copied" to user/Pictures/ folder. I deleted an image (actually a sub-folder) but it seems show up in Aperture (until I delete that project). For housekeeping purposes, do I have to delete TWICE for a single file?
Any other suggestions for my scenario?
Thanks!

Thanks everyone.
I need one more clarifications - regarding how Aperture stores/index pictures.
When I "import from iPhoto Library" in Aperture, I selected save pictures to myusername/Pictures/ folder. Now whenever I deleted a project (or an image) within Aperture, and clicked on "Aperture -> Empty Aperture Trash". However, if I open Finder, I will still see the folders (and files) of the images.
Do I have duplication of my photos? Does it imply I can delete the folder "Pictures" in Finder?

Similar Messages

Do Aperture and iPhoto automatically merge in 3.3?

Because I would really like to keep them separate.
I like to use Aperture for editing and then when I am finished I select a few favourite shots and store them in iPhoto and use it as a sort of quick portfolio if I ever want to look over my favbourite work.
Will upgrading force them to merge or can I continue to keep them separately so I don't have to wade through all the edited files to get to the few I want to show off?
Chris

Because I would really like to keep them separate.
No, the libraries will not merge automatically. But they are now compatible. You can open each iPhoto or Aperture Library in the other Application and work with it. The edits will be seen by the other Application, if you switch to the other one. But you still can keep separate libraries for Aperture and iPhoto. They will not be merged unless you import your iPhoto Libraries into the apertre Library.
This is true for Aperture 3.3. and iPhoto 9.3 and later. You need MacOS 10.7.4 or later.
Regards
Léonie

Aperture and iPhoto should use the same library

Hi all,
It seems that there is a lot of conversation about moving photos between Aperture and iPhoto. For example, some like iPhotos slideshow better but still require Apertures adjustment options. Still others have tried, to no avail, to use Aperture as iPhoto's external editor.
Personally, I have a large iPhoto library with most photos tagged with keywords. I have just started using Aperture and am yet to decide if its extra features are useful for a novice photographer like myself. Other than the price, I see no reason not to use Aperture instead of iPhoto but I would want to import my entire iPhoto library into Aperture.
My question, however, is why we need to 'import' from one app to the other. Without understanding how the aperture / iphoto databases work, I would assume there is no fundamental reason why Aperture could not simply open an existing iPhoto library and visa versa. They both support RAW, keywords, books etc. And while I am sure there are some deviations in the databases, surely each app could simply ignore the features it does not understand.
Is this something that anyone else has considered or think would be good. I would imagine that the easier it is for customers to upgrade from iPhoto to Aperture the better. Does Apple plan on supporting this in the future or is the import option 'good enough'.
Cheers

Can I and if so how do I best set up Aperture as main app. (master) with iPhoto as sub app that accesses the same library to sort through, look at, order books, etc.
Simply set the Preferences to 'Share Previews with iLife Applications' in Aperture. Then go to iPhoto -> File -> Show Aperture Library. A media browser will open and you can drag the pics from the Browser to the iPhoto Window. Note: You're getting the Aperture Previews not Masters. Note too that if you set iPhoto to Referenced mode (iPhoto -> Preferences -> Advanced) then you won't use double the disk space.
+Remember though, you are not accessing the Aperture Library. If you make changes in the Aperture Library (Re-edit the shots) after bringing pics to iPhoto, those changes are not reflected in iPhoto.+
This is what William means when he says the iPhoto does not access the Aperture Library.
Regards
TD

How to get Aperture and iPhoto to use Pentax *ist DL RAW images natively

Using some techniques that I found in various places in these forums, I am going to give step-by-step instructions to get Aperture and iPhoto to recognize Pentax *ist DL RAW images natively.
Note: This worked for me using 10.4.6 with the latest iPhoto 06 and Aperture updates. I do NOT know if this will work on older versions of OS X, iPhoto, or Aperture.
Note: If you also use a Pentax *ist DS camera, these instructions will probably disable support for that particular device due to the modifications made to a system file. Only complete these instructions if you want to use a *ist DL camera.
** These instructions involve modifying system level files using a HEX editor. If you are not comfortable with this, do NOT attempt to do this or you could kill your system. Remember, BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP. These steps worked great for me but follow at your own risk!! **
Ok, lets begin...
1) Download this great patch by macintosh_tech
http://idisk.mac.com/macintosh_tech-Public
This patch contains an updated raw.plist file which includes the RAW information for the *ist DL. This patch also contains an updated libRaw.dylib file and an updated Raw Presets file for Aperture.
** Do NOT copy the libRaw.dylib file from this patch to the folder listed in the patch Read_Me. This file did not work on my Intel-based Mac and crashed my system!!
I was able to modify my original libRaw.dylib file using a HEX editor to get it to work on my system. Instructions for this modification will follow.
2) Open the .dmg of the patch in a Finder window
3) Open a new finder window and browse to /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/ImageIO.fra mework/Resources
*4) Backup the libRaw.dylib and Raw.plist files. Copy them to a safe location. For extra safety, you can just copy the whole Resources folder to a safe location (Make sure that you COPY it and dont MOVE it)*
5) Right-click the libRaw.dylib file and select "Get Info". Look at the bottom of the info window and expand the "Ownership & Permissions" tab. In this section, expand the "Details" tab. If the lock icon is in the locked position, click it to unlock it. Change "Owner" to your user name. If requested, enter your system password at this point. Close the info window. This step lets you modify the libRaw.dylib file.
6) Complete step 5 for the Raw.plist file.
7) Copy the Raw.plist file from the "Place In System Folder" folder from the patch to the Resources folder. It will ask you if you wnt to overwrite the existing file. Click "Replace".
8) Open a new finder window and browse to the /Users/YOURUSERNAME/Library/Application Support/Aperture/ folder.
* 9) Backup the "Raw Decode Presets.plist" file *
10) Copy the "Raw Decode Presets.plist" file from the "Place In Home Directory" folder from the patch to the /Users/YOURUSERNAME/Library/Application Support/Aperture/ folder. Click "replace" if it asks you.
11) Here's the tricky part. Download a HEX editor if you don't have one. I used 0xED. It is free and can be downloaded from
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/29521
12) Open the libRaw.dylib file from the Resources folder in your HEX editor.
Note: This is your original libRaw.dylib file from your /System/Library/...../Resources/ folder, NOT the file from the patch.
Use the Find function and search for the string "Pentax *ist DS". Make sure you are using "Search Type: Text" (or equivilent in your editor) and that you use proper case. When you find this string, change the "S" in the "DS" to an "L". The string should now look like "Pentax *ist DL". Use the "Find Next" function to find the next instance of "Pentax *ist DS". Again, change the "S" to an "L". There should be two total instances that you need to change. Save the file and exit the editor.
13) Open Disk Utility and repair permissions. This will set the raw.plist and libRaw.dylib files back to their original permissions.
14) Reboot the system.
15) You should now be able to view .PEF files natively in Aperture and iPhoto. I appologize in advance for any typos. Let me know how this works, as this is my first tutorial of this nature.
Macbook 2.0 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

It would appear that my last post was a moot point as the 10.4.7 update adds support for the *ist DL. It's nice to have it biult into the operating system now.

How do I transfer photos from aperture and iPhoto to bridge?

How do I transfer photos from Aperture and iPhoto to Adobe Bridge. I am using Photoshop CS6. Many of my original photos were stored as raw files.

Here's how to access Mac iPhoto images for use in Photoshop
and so that they may be viewed by choosing that folder in Bridge..
1. In the Finder, navigate to Users > [user name} > Pictures > iPhoto Library.
2. Control-click (Right-click) the iPhoto Library file and choose Show Package Contents.
3. A Finder window opens that shows the contents. The Masters folder (or called Originals folder) contains all of the photographs that are in iPhoto.
Photoshop cannot access this folder, but if you make a duplicate of the folder, the dupe will be accessible -- so:
4. Control-click (Right-click) the folder named Masters (or Originals) and choose Duplicate.
5, Drag the duplicate folder which is named "Masters copy" or “Originals copy” from the iPhoto Library Finder window to the Desktop.
6. Open images in Photoshop from file on desktop or view them in Bridge.
7 Rename the folder and move it elsewhere (probably to the Pictures folder), if desired.
And here is a Forum thread related to Aperture-to-Bridge
How do I transfer Apple Aperture library to Bridge?

Sharing Photo's between Aperture and iPhoto and syncing to iPads, etc

Here is my problem.
I have 5 Macs (1 iMac, 4 laptops.) There are 4 people in my family and we have the family pack of iLife. The iMac is where everything sits with a time capsule and Drobo hanging off of it - about 6 TB's of data. Each Mac sync's with a variety of iPods, iTouchs and iPads. All linked to a user. So for example, all my oldest son's devices sync with only his laptop.
Well, I finally fixed my media (songs, movies, TV shows, etc) problem by leveraging home share in iTunes and authorizing all my Macs. But not so lucky yet for Photo's.
Here is the my photo dilemma.
I like Aperture for the editing and ability to handle large libraries better. So I have Aperture installed on the iMac where everything sits. iPhoto is also installed on the iMac and iPhoto is on all 4 other laptops. Prior to moving to Aperture, sharing photo's between computers was relatively easy using sharing in iPhoto - although it appears sharing in iPhoto is different than home share in iTunes. I converted my iPhoto library on the iMac to Aperture - now sharing is a pain in the neck.
Ideally, a Home Share like feature would be built into Aperture and iPhoto with another feature that would allow you to "check for new photos" on the laptops and pull them into Aperture - but wishful thinking right now.
So my while my 2 new iPads are awesome - they are basically useless for Photo's as they are synced to 2 laptops that use iPhoto, but all my Photos are in Aperture on the iMac.
Thoughts anyone????
Thanks

What was the question?
Regards
TD

Another Aperture and iPhoto problem i am having

I today imported 5 photos into aperture, i done keywords and other metadata pictures are all jpeg large 12 MP images. I then go-to the new iphoto 09 and again select show Aperture library find the pictures and drag them into a album on iphoto for easy uploading to facebook etc 3 of the pictures in iphoto when clicked are good clear images the other two when clicked are poor quality scaled down images why?. I thought the masters were left within aperture, and iphoto just loads them from AP. Can somebody explain ?

For most folks using the Previews is pefectly good. And bearing in mind what Facebook will do to the shots there’s no doubt that the Previews will be perfectly adequate.
You can set the quality of the Previews in the Aperture Preferences -> Preview Pane.
If you want to use full size pics then you’ll need to export from Aperture and then import to iPhoto. However, if Facebook is the destination then that’s utterly pointless. From what I’ve seen no matter what you upload they compress the cr*p out of it, strip the metadata and colour management.
Regards
TD

Aperture and iPhoto

I have been following some of the discussion on Aperture and iPhoto. I have not yet purchased Aperture but am seriously considering it. I am attracted to the extensive edits that can be done in Aperture yet I still like the slide show function in iPhoto. It seems that only iPhoto has the one function I would like to use on occasion, the Ken Burns Effect. My questions:
1. If I shoot RAW images (Nikon NEF) can I place edited images from Aperture into the iPhoto slideshow (which I like because of the Ken Burns Effect)? Will I have to convert them to jpeg?
2. If I shoot jpeg images will I have any limits in editing in Aperture, such as highlight and shadow adjustments, dodge and burn adjustments, and white balance adjustments?
3. Is my understanding correct that "camera settings" can only be modified in RAW files and that RAW files can not be used in slide shows?
I would appreciate any assistance to aid my understanding of the interaction iPhoto and Aperture, mainly the slide show features.
WM

1. If I shoot RAW images (Nikon NEF) can I place edited images from Aperture into the iPhoto slideshow (which I like because of the Ken Burns Effect)? Will I have to convert them to jpeg
In the Aperture Preferences there's an option to Share the Previews with iLife and iWork applications. In iPhoto you can go File -> Show Aperture Library and a media browser will open. You can drag the images from the Media Browser to the iPhoto Window and they will be imported. Then you can make your Slideshow.
2. If I shoot jpeg images will I have any limits in editing in Aperture, such as highlight and shadow adjustments, dodge and burn adjustments, and white balance adjustments?
Yes, but not because of Aperture. A jpeg is a compressed file, data has been thrown away to make it. Therefore there's less data to manipulate so the range of effect possible is less. Think of it this way: Draft a paper of 50 pages. Rewrite it down to 10 pages. Now try and have the same range of editing on the 10 page doc as you had on the 50 page doc. Nothing to do with your word processor, just less words to process...
3. Is my understanding correct that "camera settings" can only be modified in RAW files and that RAW files can not be used in slide shows?
I don't know about Camera Settings but the Aperture manual says (pg510) that to make a high quality slideshow be sure to use high resolution previews - which rather suggests that it's the Previews and not the RAWs that are used in the show.
Regards
TD
Message was edited by: Terence Devlin

Aperture and iPhoto library deleted

I upgraded my Aperture w/no problem. About one month later, all images in Aperture and iPhoto dissapeared. "Genius Bar" checked, said no problem and didn't have a clue. Bought a Time-Machine backup at store, had a consultant there show me how to set up, but he had a problem as the Airport Utility was gone. He said that was rare and downloaded it. He suggested there could be a connection to all this. I'm afraid to use the iMac. Help? Doing search for images or libraries no good, will show libraries, but with zero files. Tnx. Leif

How did you import your old iPhoto photos? And with what Aperture version?
Before the unified Aperture - iPhoto library has been introduced, it was possible to import an iPhoto library as referenced. This left all originals in the iPhoto library, so iPhoto continued to work, but Aperture could use the master files. Is that the way you imported your iPhoto library, with the master files in there original location?
When trying to e.g. export a file Aperture says 'The selected original image is either offline or not found. Please reconnect it and try again.'.
That is the typical error message, when Aperture cannot access the original files. And Aperture wil not be able to do anything with your images, unless you restore the missing originals.
Just moved my Aperture-library to my new iMac.
Where did you move your Aperture library from ? From an older mac? From a backup?
Did Aperture work on that old Mac and could access the originals?
Do you still have that old mac, and is there any chance that recovery software could retrieve the missing original files on that mac?
Sometimes Aperture reports originals as missing, even if they are managed inside the Aperture library.
You can find out, where Aperture is looking for the original files, if you select some image files in the browser and use Aperture's command "File > Locate Referenced Files".
In the panel that opens, you can see the path to missing files in the upper right corner below the thumbnail.
What do you see, when you use that command?

Can Aperture and iPhoto share library?

Is there a way they would be in harmony together? I need to keep the iPhoto usage around in my computer (that is where my whole library is) and also use Aperture..

Aperture and iPhoto can use the same referenced images, but adjustment made in one app does not show up in the other if that's what you mean.
What you can do is to share your images in both apps and then you can, in Aperture, go to 'File' > 'Show iPhoto Browser...'
The other way, from iPhoto, you can go to 'Archive' > 'Show Aperture-Library...' and have access to all images from within both apps. From the browsers you can drag and drop images.
Regards
Paul K

What to do with Aperture and iPhoto now?

Now that I have Photos on my computer (OS X 10.10.3), can I uninstall/delete iPhoto and Aperture?
I have no need for their functionality, since I will just use Photos (to replace iPhoto functions) and Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop for more advanced functions (including what I could do with Aperture).
To clarify, I should say, is it safe to delete the two apps (iPhoto and Aperture) without affecting my photo library?

I mean the apps. They don't take up 'minimal storage', instead aperture and iphoto apps take up around 2.5gb of space. I have a large SSD, but I would still like this space back.
Make a bootable clone or another full backup of your SSD. You may not be able to ever reinstall iPhoto or Aperture otherwise, since they have been pulled from the App Store.
If you should discover later, that the migration of your libraries has been faulty and you need to repeat it after repairing your libraries, you will be out of luck.
Remember, it is is just one day after the first release of Photos as version 1.0. There are very likely some bugs and I would not burn all bridges before the library has been thoroughly tested and you are very confident, that this release is working well on your Mac.
My concern is that there is a shared library, and by deleting the two other apps, the ones the new one relies on, that the there might be some data loss. I wanted clarification. If an app is intended to replace two other apps, then why doesn't it replace it?
The links between the library are hard links. As long as one of the libraries is still referencing one of the linked image files, that file will not be deleted from the disk. Six Colors: The (hard) link between Photos and iPhoto

Should I Uninstall Aperture and iPhoto? warning-long and complicated!

Due to trying to combine 2 libraries from 2 different computers, and trying to relocate masters, I've created a bit of a cluster, shall we say. I first ended up with 7,000 images on my desktop that i didn't allow aperture to locate originals. of course i didn't realize this was happening until after the fact. then i couldn't empty my trash after putting a couple old backups in it. then my finder stopping responding and i couldn't empty the trash, couldn't remove any of the files from the desktop, and on and on. tried to get into the finder window/destop via the mail app-it was the only way the finder window would open and delete the files that way. no luck. finally just went to the genius bar, and they were kind enough to take a little extra time and hooked up to their network and deleted all the crap off the desktop.
The problem now, is that Aperture keeps crashing, and iPhoto keeps wanting to update thumbnails. Can't really move about or do anything in Aperture AT all now.
I have repaired permissions, repaired the library, and am now trying a rebuild. If this doesn't work, i think my only option is to start over. i do have a good backup of Aperture/iPhoto will all files intact on an EHD.
Phew....hope this makes sense, and looking for guidance if possible. If I do need to start over, would I just uninstall Aperture, and iPhoto, then re-download them, or just drag and drop the backup from the EHD and that will work?
thanks so much to any "helpers"!

1macprincess! wrote:
thanks corky! since i'm such a novice, a little of that was over my head, but i love to learn new things!
Sorry if I gave too much detail. In a nutshell, the user library folder (which is hidden by default in Lion and Mountain Lion) simply holds settings for any given program including settings the user can change in the program. All of the files in that folder are recreated either automatically by the program when launched again, or by the user making setting changes in the program again. Leaving them in place for a re-install is fine as long as none are corrupted.
Well, i kinda jumped ahead, and hope i didn't make it worse. I already put the corrupt AP library in my trash and it's emptying right now. i didn't see the need to keep it, plus with as many files as it contained (over 300,000 as i said), I felt like i needed to get it off my hd. kind of like smelly old food! (bad analogy, i know!)
Not a problem since you have a known good backup library on the EHD.
So, that said, if i understand correctly, i will open Ap after, import a few images-from where? I won't have a library any more. Then if i works correctly, I would drag the good backup from my EHD, to the PIctures folder in the Finder window, and then import to Aperture from there? Just do "import", and then that's it, or is it more complicated than that?
Once you launch Aperture for the first time after re-install, import any pictures you have to test with. Take a couple pictures on your camera and then import those. Make sure you can import successfully and that you can add adjustments. Then export them to anywhere you want (Desktop, Pictures folder, or any other folder) to make sure the export function works correctly. If all is fine, quit Aperture and then delete that library (which should be quite small and quick to delete).
Connect the EHD and then drag your known good backup library to the Pictures folder and then double-click it to load it. You should then be back to square one before everything went sideways (assuming the backup is a managed library with the Master (Originals) in the library).
Note - if you were running a Referenced library (where the Masters (Originals) were located outside the library package in Finder folders) - then you will need to make sure the Masters (Originals) are located in their correct locations before launching the good library so the library will locate them automatically. I mention this because you said in your opening post that you were combining libraries and relocating Masters so I am not sure what type of library the known good backup library is.
FWIW, the default library type for Aperture is a Managed library where the imported images are stored inside the library package.

Unify aperture and iphoto libraries: the book (tricky) issue

I had been in the process of migrating from iPhoto to Aperture for a while now.
I imported iPhoto library in Aperture few monthes ago and am now using only Aperture.
Everything is fine for two things:
- I could not import the books (format is not compatible), so i had to keep the iPhoto library
- I didn't want to duplicate the orignals , so they are still in iPhoto library
With Aperture 3.3, the library could be unified with iPhoto
I would like to move all originals to Aperture library and still be able to open from iPhoto (so far, easy) but also keep the iPhoto books (which as far as i know are still incompatible with aperture books formats)
In other words, i want one aperture library, including masters, and I want to be able to open it from iPhoto, and still keep the old books (that were built from the initial iPhoto library) in iPhoto
Any clue ?

Hi Leonie,
You're really full of resources (not sure if this french expression translates well in english, but you get the idea) !
I finally found a way, not the most elegant one, but it's working:
0. Open each book in iPhoto. Delete in the book non-used photos of the book (in project list, choose book, then choose photos in the toolbar in the bottom, display non placed photos, delete). Now books projects only contain photos actually used in the book. (this step may not be necessary, but it speeds the process)
0. bis: Backup your Aperture library. don't forget to stop also any automatic backup process (like time machine)
1. Open the iPhoto library with Aperture (remember i had already migrated to Aperture 3,3 & iPhoto 9, which makes the libraries compatibles)
2. Export each of your books as a phototheque (right click on the book in the inspector navigator/ choose export impression project as a phototheque). Give specific name, for example "project x"
3. Open first created book phototheque in aperture
4. Tag photos of the phototheque with a specific keyword, for example "book x"
5. Close phototheque for "book x" and resume on step 3 for other phototheques
6. Open default aperture Library
7. Import first phototheque, merge with Aperture Library
8. Normally you get duplicates, especially if you have added metadata or edited the photos in aperture since you created the books in iPhoto. At least that's what happened to me
9. You can now grab the recent metadata on the one that was already in Aperture and apply it to the imported one. To do that, create a smart album with the keyword "project x"; then move all new imported events from iPhoto to the event where they belong in aperture. Then in the smart album, for a specific picture when you choose "display in the project" (i have defined a shortcut) you are in the event where the duplicate photo also sits. Choose cmd shift C on the photo with metadata, cmd shift V on the photo with the tag "project x" to transfer the metadata. You can delete the first one, except if you had edited the original differently in the book and in aperture and want to keep both. You still have to re-enter the faces on the imported one
10. You can erase the tag "project x"
11. Go back to step 7 for other books
12. Check you can see your books in iphoto when opening aperture library with iphoto. You can now consolidate the aperture library and migrate all referenced iPhoto pics inside the aperture library
13. you can erase iPhoto Library and other books phototheques created in step 2
You now have one unified library, that you can use in aperture and iPhoto, with your old iPhoto books in it.
(you also have lost a few hours...)

All my Aperture and iPhoto photos disappeared

I was getting ready to upload photos to mpix. I was exporting photos tweaked in Aperture 3 from iPhoto. Because the picture file to which I was exporting was full, I cancelled the export and deleted the photos in the picture file (about 790 photos). These had been imported from iMac through drop box. I then resumed the export of 45 photos from iPhoto and noticed some were gone. Not sure of the sequence next, but checked Aperture and it seemed like all my projects and photos (about 9000-11,000) were gone. Went to trash and moved dragged the photos out of the trash to the pictures drop down file in finder. I then restarted the computer and tried to open iPhoto and it seemed there was no iPhoto library there at all. Very strange.
I have not backed up my macbook pro for about a week.
Can I restore my aperture and iPhotos library?

I downloaded iPhoto Library Manager and was able to recover all the photos and albums, but not the slideshows and a recent calendar. I would like to understand what happened though and how to avoid it in the future. So here are the answers to your questions.
"When you say the "picture file" was full, to what are you referring?" Several weeks ago, I had transfered a large volume of photos from my older iMac using the drop file with the computers networked. I did not delete them from the drop file after importing them into my IPhoto and/or Aperture libraries on my laptop. After this import, neither my iPhoto nor my Aperture libraries on the laptop were comprised totally of these imported photos though.
"An external drive?" Although I also pulled some of the photos I had imported earlier from an external hard drive, I did not delete the files or otherwise connect (through a firewire cable) to the hard drive when I deleted the photos to prepare to upload the ones for printing.
Over the weekend when I went to export photos to this same file I decided to delete the hundreds/thousand or so, that were still there, so that I wouldn't have to search through them all to upload them to an online printing service. After I deleted the photos in the drop box file, when I went back to iPhoto I notice some photos were gone. Where they had been in the album I had created to print, were the empty dashed line outline box. I don't remember if I restarted the computer then or after I checked Aperture, but at some point, thinking that might restore things, I restarted the computer. After restarting, that's when iPhoto was just completely empty. No photos at all. When I checked Aperture it was the same - all the photos were gone.
"And when you say the photos are gone, when you open Aperture, does it look like a brand new library? No images, projects, albums, etc.?" Correct.
"Were the images in your Aperture library referenced from your iPhoto library?" Some but not all. Some were downloaded directly from my camera to Aperture; some were imported directly to Aperture from the drop box. Some I did import first into iPhoto. Also some of the photos originally imported to Aperture I then moved to iPhoto to make a calendar.
I am very concerned about this. Is it a software defect? Did I do something wrong? Is there a more efficient and less unstable way to get some, but not all of the photos from my iMac onto the laptop?
Thanks for your help.

Aperture and iPhoto - sharing the same library? Synchornizing libraries?

Hi,
I would like to ask if it is possible to either:
1. Have Aperture and iPhoto share the same library.
2. Have the edits on one reflect in the library of the other (if it isn't possible to simply "share" the same one).
Thanks.
My major concerns that keep me from going to Aperture and forgetting iPhoto altogether are:
a. iPhoto has nice sharing capabilities (with Facebook, email, etc.) which I am not sure Aperture will have.
b. iPhoto has good iLife integration (slideshows with iTunes music, send to iMovie, etc.)
c. my photos have tags in iPhoto that I'm not sure would transfer to Aperture if I did the "import" process...

1. Have Aperture and iPhoto share the same library.
No. Th Aperture Library is a much more complex beast than the iPhoto one. The two apps can shar the same photos though.
2. Have the edits on one reflect in the library of the other (if it isn't possible to simply "share" the same one).
No. Neither is an "external editor" like Elements. Importing is a once-off thing. Once you import a pic to Aperture it never references the iPhoto version again - and vice versa.
It's tempting to think of Aperture as some kind of "iPhoto Pro". It's not. It's an entirely different application. When you edit a pic in iPhoto the apps preserves your original file and creates an entirely new file - the modified version. When you edit a pic in Aperture that doesn't happen. Your edits are recorded in the database and +applied live+ when you view the pic in the Aperture window. This is a very different way of working and the principle reason why the two apps don't - and can't - read each other's Library.
a. iPhoto has nice sharing capabilities (with Facebook, email, etc.) which I am not sure Aperture will have.
You can email from Aperture in exactly the same way as iPhoto. There is a Facebook exporter for Aperture (though, given what Facebook does to photos, I can't imagine why anyone would want one) and there are lots of other exporters available as well. Search on MacUpdate.
b. iPhoto has good iLife integration (slideshows with iTunes music, send to iMovie, etc.)
Aperture can do the same - and in the same way - if you set it to share Previews with iLife and iWork in the Preferences
c. my photos have tags in iPhoto that I'm not sure would transfer to Aperture if I did the "import" process...
They will.
There are some differences: No Face and Places features in Aperture, Aperture won't deal with video at all, you cannot order postcards and calendars via Aperture and Slideshows are better on iPhoto. But if you share the Previews with iLife, then you can access any of these features you want via iPhoto.
The best thing to do is download the Aperture trial and experiment with it.
Regards
TD

Aperture and iPhoto - do they co-exist?

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for