Architectural question

Little architectural question: why is all the stuff that is needed to render a page put into the constructor of a backing bean? Why is there no beforeRender method, analogous to the afterRenderResponse method? That method can then be called if and only if a page has to be rendered. It seems to me that an awful lot of resources are waisted this way.
Reason I bring up this question is that I have to do a query in the constructor in a page backing bean. Every time the backing bean is created the query is executed, including when the page will not be rendered in the browser...

Little architectural question: why is all the stuff
that is needed to render a page put into the
constructor of a backing bean? Why is there no
beforeRender method, analogous to the
afterRenderResponse method? That method
can then be called if and only if a page has to be
rendered. It seems to me that an awful lot of
resources are waisted this way.There actually is such a method ... if you look at the FacesBean base class, there is a beforeRenderResponse() method that is called before the corresponding page is actually rendered.
>
Reason I bring up this question is that I have to do
a query in the constructor in a page backing bean.
Every time the backing bean is created the query is
executed, including when the page will not be
rendered in the browser...This is definitely a valid concern. In Creator releases prior to Update 6 of the Reef release, however, there were use cases when the beforeRenderResponse method would not actually get called (the most important one being when you navigated to a new page, which is a VERY common use case :-).
If you are using Update 6 or later, as a side effect of other bug fixes that were included, the beforeRenderResponse method is reliably called every time, so you can put your pre-rendering logic in this method instead of in the constructor. However, there is still a wrinkle to be aware of -- if you navigate from one page to another, the beforeRenderResponse of both the "from" and "to" pages will be executed. You will need to add some conditional logic to ensure that you only perform your setup work if this is the page that is actually going to be rendered (hint: call FacesContext.getCurrentInstance().getViewRoot().getViewId() to get the context relative path to the page that will actually be displayed).
One might argue, of course, that this is the sort of detail that an application should not need to worry about, and one would be absolutely correct. This usability issue will be dealt with in an upcoming Creator release.
Craig McClanahan

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    Have you seen the Adapter for Oracle Applications User's Guide? Business events are discussed here: http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B31017_01/integrate.1013/b28351/T430238T430579.htm and XML Gateway here: http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B31017_01/integrate.1013/b28351/T430238T430339.htm

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