Asset Retirement: Transaction "Asset Sale without customer" (ABAON)

Hi Experts,
While posting Asset Retirement in ABAON, error occurs as "SYST: You can not determine the period for rule 02 to 23.03.11".
Here we are retiring 3 assets. One from one asset class & other 2 from another asset class.
for the 1st Asset Class- period ctrl. method is 006 and in T-code AFAMP, in retirement column rule for 006 is defined as 11, which means "Next Month". AND...........
for 2nd Asset class- period ctrl. method is 003 and in T-code AFAMP, in retirement column rule for 003 is defined as 02, which means "Pro Rata upto mid-period at period start date."
Now I think problem is there for 2nd asset class as rule 02 can not determine the period according to error.
Please explain the logic? What axactly system is saying? and how can I solve this issue?
Regards,
Nilesh

Hi Nilesh
Nice to know the issue has been resolved.
OAVH is used to determine the relationship between posting intervals and periods in the given fiscal year version. The assignment entries in OAVH have to be changed in the following cases:
u2022 You use period control rules you defined yourself.
u2022 You change the definition of the periods in the fiscal year version in Financial Accounting.
As you noticed, case you use a year-dependent fiscal year variant, then you have to perform OA84 to generate period controls properly.
For more information, you can refer to IMG documentation in following IMG menu path:
IMG: Asset Accounting -> Depreciation -> Valuation Methods -> Period Control -> Define Calender Assignments (OAVH) / Generate Period Controls (OA84)
Regards
George

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Asset Retirement: Asset Sale without customer (ABAON)

Hi Experts,
While posting Asset Retirement in ABAON, error occurs as "SYST: You can not determine the period for rule 02 to 23.03.11".
Here we are retiring 3 assets. One from one asset class & other 2 from another asset class.
for the 1st Asset Class- period ctrl. method is 006 and in T-code AFAMP, in retirement column rule for 006 is defined as 11, which means "Next Month". AND...........
for 2nd Asset class- period ctrl. method is 003 and in T-code AFAMP, in retirement column rule for 003 is defined as 02, which means "Pro Rata upto mid-period at period start date."
Now I think problem is there for 2nd asset class as rule 02 can not determine the period according to error.
Please explain the logic? What axactly system is saying? and how can I solve this issue?
Regards,
Nilesh
Edited by: NileshSB on Mar 31, 2011 6:36 AM

Hi Nilesh
Nice to know the issue has been resolved.
OAVH is used to determine the relationship between posting intervals and periods in the given fiscal year version. The assignment entries in OAVH have to be changed in the following cases:
u2022 You use period control rules you defined yourself.
u2022 You change the definition of the periods in the fiscal year version in Financial Accounting.
As you noticed, case you use a year-dependent fiscal year variant, then you have to perform OA84 to generate period controls properly.
For more information, you can refer to IMG documentation in following IMG menu path:
IMG: Asset Accounting -> Depreciation -> Valuation Methods -> Period Control -> Define Calender Assignments (OAVH) / Generate Period Controls (OA84)
Regards
George

Asset Retirement (Legacy assets) high priority

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Dear Friends,
I am doing retirement for Legacy assets using F-92 transaction code .i selected transaction type 210 . it is giving following error
Retirement of old assets data not possible (No existing old assets data) for some asset class assets
and some asset class assets i am getting following error
Posting with trans.type 210 not possible (No acquisition posted) but values are there in legacy asset(take over values tab)
why some asset class assets are getting Retirement of old assets data not possible and some asset class assets are getting No acquisition posted
for normal assets created using AS01 no error is coming
some Legacy asset class assets retirement happening fine
plz suggest which transaction type has to use for legacy assets or need to create separate transaction type for legacy assets
we are using group asset concept
errors are
Retirement of old assets data not possible (No existing old assets data)
Message no. AA416
Diagnosis
You have tried to post an retirement based on amount, using a transaction type which refers to old assets data (acquisitions from previous years).
However, the sum of the APC at the start of the fiscal year and the transactions, related to the past, equals 0.
Procedure
Check the transaction type entered and the asset.
Posting with trans.type 210 not possible (No acquisition posted)
Message no. AA324
Diagnosis
Transaction type 210 belongs to a transaction type group, which can only be used to post to assets to which posting has already been performed. However, no postings have been made to this asset.
Procedure
Use a transaction type from a transaction type group, which can be used for the first acquisition to an asset.
Regards
Govind
Edited by: Govind Yadav on Jul 8, 2008 10:24 PM
Edited by: Govind Yadav on Jul 8, 2008 10:26 PM
Edited by: Govind Yadav on Jul 8, 2008 10:27 PM

Hi,
If you are doing upload of legacy assets each year wise, then you have to AJRW for every year.
Another way-- you can set your legacy asset takeover date as same as your last closed FY end date, by keeping this date as takeover date you may not be able to run any asset balances report with a report date, which is prior to your takeover date.
For ex: if your takeover date is 31.03.2009, then you cannot run balances report with a report date <31.03.2009
For dep rate changes issue----
You have create your legacy asset with a dep key, which should have the rate of dep from takeover date only.
Whatever depreciation rate changes happend before takeover cannot be maintained in the asset master, since SAP will not calculates dep prior to takeover date. Since system will calculates dep from 01.04.2009 (according to example date) with the rate, which is appilicable from 01.04.2009 only.
What you have to do is, you need to create your dep key with currenct dep rate only and maintain the same in your legacy asset. So while creating through AS91, you need to maintain the APC value (original purchase price) Accum dep ( this amount might have derived from various dep rate calculations outside system till takeover).
Thanks,
Srinu

Please elaborate me the mechanism of Asset Retirement

Hi,
Please elaborate me the mechanism of Asset Retirement
Thanks

Hi,
Please go thru the following document if it is helpful.
Asset Retirement:
Purpose
Asset retirement is the removal of an asset or part of an asset from the asset portfolio. This removal of an asset (or part of an asset) is posted from a bookkeeping perspective as an asset retirement. Depending on organizational considerations, or the business transaction which leads to the retirement, you can distinguish the following types of retirement:
An asset is sold, resulting in revenue being earned. The sale is posted with a customer.
An asset is sold, resulting in revenue being earned. The sale is posted against a clearing account.
An asset has to be scrapped, with no revenue earned.
An asset is sold to an affiliated company (refer to Manual Posting of Intercompany Asset Transfer/Retirement)
Process Flow
There are transactions and transaction types in the system for these different retirement types.
Asset Retirement
Asset Sale with Customer
The system enables you to post the entry to Accounts Receivable, the revenue posting and the asset retirement in one step. In this posting transaction, you have to post the revenue (debit A/R, credit revenue from asset sale) first, and then post the asset retirement. An indicator in the posting transaction specifies that the system posts the asset retirement after the revenue posting.
The prerequisite for this is that the sales revenue account in Financial Accounting, to which the revenue should be posted, has a field status variant in its master data in which the Asset retirement field (category Asset Accounting) is defined as a required or optional entry field. You define the field status variant in Customizing for Financial Accounting (Financial Accounting Global Settings ® Document ® Line Item ® Controls).
Posting of Gain or Loss
When you use the standard transaction types, the system automatically creates a gain posting or a loss posting, as well as a revenue clearing entry, in addition to the asset and accumulated depreciation correction postings. This gain/loss posting, as well as the revenue posting, are not dependent on the transaction type. The automatic creation of these postings is controlled by the Gain/loss from retirement indicator in the definition of the transaction type. You can also choose not to set this indicator, in which case you have to enter the postings manually.
In an exceptional situation, an integrated asset retirement with revenue can also be posted although the asset does not have APC in the master depreciation area.
For more information on ways of posting gain and loss, see Posting Gain/Loss.
Retirement Without Revenue
A retirement without revenue is the removal of an asset from the asset portfolio without any revenue, for example, by scrapping. When you use this posting option, the system does not create revenue and gain/loss postings. Instead it creates a Loss from an asset retirement without revenue posting in the amount of the net book value being retired.
Complete/Partial Retirement
An asset retirement can refer to an entire fixed asset (complete retirement) or part of a fixed asset (partial retirement). In both cases, the system automatically determines, using the asset retirement dates entered, the amounts to be charged off for each depreciation area. You can initiate the partial retirement of a fixed asset by entering one of the following:
The amount of the acquisition and production costs being retired
A percentage rate
A quantity
When you enter the amount of APC that is being retired, the system determines the percentage to be retired from the asset using the first depreciation area in which posting is to take place. It determines the percentage amount of APC being retired in that area, and uses the same percentage for other areas. You can enter a quantity, provided that you have not specified a retirement amount or percentage rate. The system interprets the quantity as a ratio to the total quantity of the asset and thereby determines the asset retirement percentage rate. If necessary, you can also manually correct the retirement amounts that were calculated by the system in individual depreciation areas. The system then recalculates the retirement amounts for that area, and any areas that are dependent on that area.
The asset value date of the retirement is recorded in the asset master record. You cannot post any transactions with a value date before the value date of the last retirement. If you nevertheless need to post such a transaction, you must first reverse all retirements that lie after the value date of the belated posting. After posting the belated transaction, you can then re-post the retirements.
Transaction Type (Prior-Year Acquisitions/Current-Year Acquisitions)
Make sure that you select the correct transaction type for both partial and complete retirement. For the complete retirement of a fixed asset acquired in previous years, always select a transaction type intended for prior-year acquisitions. A partial retirement can always relate either to prior-year acquisitions or to current-year acquisitions.
The complete retirement of a fixed asset is only possible if all transactions to the asset were posted with a value date before the asset value date of asset retirement. You must clear or reverse down payments and investment support measures, which are in the same posting year as the retirement, before you post the complete retirement.
Prior-year asset acquisitions and current-year acquisitions are shown separately from one another in the document.
Proportional Value Adjustments
Based on the value date and period control, the system automatically determines the reference period for the retirement. The system automatically determines any depreciation (value adjustments) that is applicable to the part of the asset being retired, up to the reference period (retirement). The system automatically retires this depreciation at the time of the retirement transaction. This procedure guarantees that the percentage of the book value that is retired is identical with the percentage of the acquisition and production costs that is retired.
Graphic: Determining Proportional Value Adjustments
The system automatically posts the proportional value adjustments retired during an asset retirement. You can specify special transaction types for this automatic posting. You enter these transaction types in the Customizing definition of the retirement or transfer transaction types (Value adjustments function). These special transaction types for the proportional value adjustments are particularly important for group consolidations, so that the individual transaction can be identified as retirement of transfer.
The standard transaction types delivered by SAP are already defined in this way. The system uses the transaction type 290 for proportional values with retirements. For transfers it uses transaction types 390/395 (transfer retirement/acquisition).
Retirement of Low Value Assets
There are special considerations for the retirement of low value assets (LVAs). It is usually necessary to simplify the business transactions involved, due to the large number of assets that are being retired. It is not necessary to actually post the retirement of low value assets in order for the assets transactions to be displayed correctly in the asset history sheet. It is possible to simulate the retirements of low value assets during a time period you specify. Enter the LVA asset classes and the simulation time period in the initial screen of the asset history sheet (see Asset History Sheet).
If you want to actually post the retirement of low value assets, use the usual procedure for asset retirements.
Retiring Several Asset Subnumbers Simultaneously
The system enables you to post the complete retirement of several subnumbers of a fixed asset in one step (generic entry using an asterisk (*) in the subnumber field). The system performs asset postings and value adjustment postings for each sub-number.
Sales revenue is proportionally allocated to the individual sub-numbers according to their acquisition value (including revaluation).
Retirement of Assets with Investment Support
For information on the special concerns involved when retiring assets with investment support, see Investment Support on the Liabilities Side and Investment Support Managed on the Assets Side .
Retirement Costs
It is possible to enter the costs of the retirement (for example, removal costs) for statistical purposes during the retirement posting. The standard report for asset retirements (Information System) then displays these costs in a special field. Note that gain/loss and retirement costs are shown separately in the report. In addition, the retirement costs are not automatically transferred to cost accounting.
Mass Retirement
When an enterprise sells a large portion of its fixed assets (such as a plant or a building), it is necessary to post the retirement of all the individual assets which make up the whole. Since the number of affected assets can be very large, the Asset Accounting (FI-AA) component makes it possible to make the necessary postings using mass processing. For more information, see Mass Retirement.
Thanks,
Prithwiraj.

F-02 with asset retirement: Trans. type not possible - No affil. company

Hello Gurus,
I am struggling with the following, I hope you can help me:
We want to sell an investment using a trading partner. When entering the asset retirement transaction type 230, I get error message AA 389 Trans. type not possible (No affiliated company specified). I however enter the trading partner through 'More data' but when coming back to the asset retirement, T. type 210 is written and changing it to 230 gives me the error.
I am using document type DR for which the flags 'enter trading partner' and 'Inter co. postings' are set. I tried without the flag 'Inter co. postings', no success.
I have tried with Trans. type 210 and changing the line item after simulation, no success as well.
The target document is:
Pos. Posting Key       Account       Amount      Trading Part.
1      01                      1195914       4,320.00
2      50                      610720         4,320.00-   CI09
After simulate:
Pos. Posting Key       Account       Amount     Trading Part.
1      01                      1195914       4,320.00
2      50                      610720         4,000.00- CI09
3      50                      204010         320.00-     CI09
4      75                      18678 0        0.01-
5      40                      9740150       4,0000.00
6      50                      9740100       3,9999.99-
Many Thanks in advance.
Alex-

Hello Alex,
Try F-92, on the screen for creating the revenue line item, i.e. the credit side, you must activate the indicator "asset retirement." > Next, press 'Enter' key, after which the screen 'Create Asset Retirement' appears and in this dialog box screen enter the appropriate 'Transacion Type' instead.
Hope the above helps.
Kind regards,
John Chin

Derivation rule at asset retirement

Hii experts,
we have requirement of assets procurement through grants they receive. Funds of fund center got consumed at the asset acquisition but when i m triyng to retire/scrap assets... its giving an error for FI313 I.e
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Regards,
Abhay

Dear Abhay,
Since you have created Asset Codes in Asset Master, you have to provide Asset Codes in Asset Retirement Derivation Rule, so that system can derive proper values as per your derivate rule. You have to maintain the following derivation rule for Asset Retirement:
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I had parked asset retirement document with document type AR. At that time fields such as Plant, Asset Retirement tick, Asset No. etc. were available and I had filled up the fields.
Now I want to post the document with FBV0. When I check the line items the above mentioned fields are not visible. When I post the document system give following message:
Formatting error in the field RF05A-XAABG; see next message
     Message no. 00298
Diagnosis
     During batch input or when executing CALL TRANSACTION... USING a screen
     field was filled with an invalid input format.
System Response
     Processing was terminated.
Procedure
     The screen field has the technical name RF05A-XAABG . The cause of the
     error is described in the following message.
     Correct the appropriate BDC data.
Please suggest what is the problem and how to solve it.
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Shripal

Hi Sridevi
Thanks for the reply
It may be possible that I had not ticked Indicator Post retirement of assets directly ?
But the real problem is that I while trying to post the parked document this field is not available. I have alread mentioned the fields which were originally available while parking but now they are not available while posting.
Please suggest what should be done to make these fields visible while posting. If I try to create new document these field are available. They are only not available when parked document is posted.
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Regarding BAPI to complete ABAON Transaction ie Asset Retirement.

Dear Friends,
I am doing the Asset Retirement using BAPI_ASSET_RETIREMENT_POST.
I am able to do the retirement of the Asset.
But my requirement is to update the
Text, manual value in Transaction data Tab.
Reference, Assignment in Additional Details Tab.
Please tell me how to map these fields for this BAPI. Or if there is any other BAPI for Asset Retirement.
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Prathima Talari.

Hi Nilesh
Nice to know the issue has been resolved.
OAVH is used to determine the relationship between posting intervals and periods in the given fiscal year version. The assignment entries in OAVH have to be changed in the following cases:
u2022 You use period control rules you defined yourself.
u2022 You change the definition of the periods in the fiscal year version in Financial Accounting.
As you noticed, case you use a year-dependent fiscal year variant, then you have to perform OA84 to generate period controls properly.
For more information, you can refer to IMG documentation in following IMG menu path:
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Regards
George

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Asset retirement frm slae w/customer f-92

Asset retirement frm slae w/customer
We r retiring & selling asset throgh F-92,
But output tax is not calculated.
can anayone provide solution to us..
With reagards,
sachin Rodrigues

Hi,
I tested it in my system.
When you post in F-92, you will input as follow :
Dr Customer       30.000
Cr Sales Revenue. 30.000
The tax will be calculated only as follows :
1. in FS00 , maintain the tax category : * (or +) for "SALES REVENUE" Account
2. in F-92, you input the tax category in SALES Revenue Account (Because if I input the tax in Customer then the tax will not be calculated). You can tick "Calculate tax" either in Customer or Sales Revenue account.
3. Afterwards, choose menu Document => Simulate.
The following journal will be created :
PK      Account       Description                       Amount
50       0000800000 Sales revenues-dom.        26.086,96-
01       0000000001 herwin                     30.000,00
50       0000175000 Output tax                  3.913,04-
75       0000032000 000000040000 0000           1.000,00-
70       0000032010 000000040000 0000              33,33
40       0000825000 Clrg asset disposal        26.086,96
50       0000250000 Gain-fxd asset ret.        25.120,29-
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HI All,
I was trying to sell an asset using transaction ABAON which is fully depreciated, but I am getting the error -
" Posting with trans.type 210 not possible (No acquisition posted)"
The Scenario is, there is an asset(car) which was uploaded during implimentation and it got depreciated fully in the month of april.
The same asset(car, which is fully depreciated) is sold for an amount of Rs 40000/-.
So, I was trying to post it with some revenue vlaue in transaction ABAON, but I am getting the above error.
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Our client is facing a problem which is as below.
We have done retirement of an asset the steps done are follows.
1. ABAON - Sale with revenue with out customer.
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2.ASKB , periodic processing for the updation of depriciation area 02 - tax dpreciation.
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Also note depreciation posting for 01 is real time and 02 its manual yearly one. But there is some depreciation posted in earlier year so there is actual loss on sale of asset
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Should we clear the clearing accout to post into the GL
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Hi,
This is surely related to Document splitting configuration
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I think it should be 0000 (unspecified posting) and then create a new variant and assign the below categories:
Menu: Financial Accounting (New)-> General Ledger Accounting (New) - > Business Transactions -> Document Splitting -> Define Business Transaction Variants
01000     Balance Sheet Account
01100     Company Code Clearing
01300     Cash Discount Clearing
02000     Customer
02100     Customer: Special G/L Transaction
03000     Vendor
03100     Vendor: Special G/L Transaction
04000     Cash Account
05100     Taxes on Sales/Purchases
05200     Withholding Tax
06000     Material
07000     Fixed Assets
20000     Expense
30000     Revenue
40100     Cash Discount (Expense/Revenue/Loss)
40200     Exchange Rate Difference
80000     Customer-Specific Item Category
Assign the new variant to DR document under Financial Accounting (New)-> General Ledger Accounting (New) - > Business Transactions -> Document Splitting -> Classify Document Types for Document Splitting
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Regards
Tarek

Report on Asset retirement

Dear all,
I need a report on Asset Retirement which display the customer number and his description ( the one who bought the asset).
I used the report S_ALR_87100623 to manage the retirement and i didn't found an option to display the customer number & description.
Is there any solution or other transaction (report) to get it ?
Thank you in advance.

Hello,
I tried already this report. But there is no information about the customer who baught the asset.
Any other solution ?
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