ATI Radeon 4870 in a MacPro 2,1 not working!

Recently I switched out my ATI Radeon 1900 for an upgrade to the ATI Radeon 4870... Apple states that the 4870 is not compatible with the MacPro 2,1... But numerous "Mac-heads" commented on the Q&A page on the Apple Store for the ATI Radeon HD 4870 that it was compatible. So I order it...
The switch out was extremely easy the ATI Radeon 4870 had 2 power cables to connect as oppose to 1 for the 1900. The Graphic card worked smooth at first... then I noticed when I was in icon view the icons had a poor quality image. Today with the download of Adobe Flash 10.1 the quality of every flash image is poor just like it was in icon view...now all the YouTube videos look like they have static going through them... For the older population (+40) the video looks like the reception of UFH channel on a TV from the 70's...before there was cable or satellite dishes... when a remote was called a clicker! Just too much snow on the images!
Does anyone have an idea to correct this? Is there a way to download ATI Radeon 4870 Mac drivers? I know that they are built into the 10.6 (Snow Leopard), but since this is a MacPro 2,1 will it known to have updated drivers downloaded to this computer? or am I a "pinhead" for have listened to these "Mac-heads"... Is there a way to go back to Adobe Flash 10.0? Should I just swap-out the 4870 for the 1900 and make the 4870 a $350.00 paperweight... Have to admit that the 4870 is completely quite... no noise what so ever... can not even hear the fan.
Thanks

Assuming it's the card made for Mac (and not a PC card that's been altered/flashed to work in a Mac Pro), it really ought to work.
Drivers for the card aren't available separately anymore. You're absolutely right, they're built into Snow Leopard, but they should also be built into Leopard as well. It's possible that something mucked up the driver installation, to check it simply download and install the 'combo updater' for the most recent version of Mac OS that you're using.
For Leopard, get the 10.5.8 combo updater here http://support.apple.com/kb/DL866
For Snow Leopard, get 10.6.3 v1.1 combo updater here http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1017
Hope that helps!

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A 5770 is $249 or slightly less and in the same dept to me as replacing hard drives, adding some RAM in order to work and because my understanding is it was the first card to support 3 monitors.
The 5770 only requires 10.6.5+ - and the 4,1 had way too many issues with 10.5.7/10.5.8
The 4870 may or may not provide what you need for the software you run, even though 3 yr old machine but 4 yr old plus video card.
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4870 vs GTX 285 that came out at that time also
http://www.geek.com/articles/games/macpro-whats-better-ati-radeon-4870-or-nvidia -gtx-285-20090720/
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This information is GOLD! Solid GOLD!
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