ATI Radon xt800 vs. stock ATI 1900

Good day.
My new Mac pro came with of course the 1900. Now, from another system, I have a fairly new ATI xt800 for the G5.
Can someone tell me the pro's and con's of why I would want to install the xt800 in the Mac Pro instead of selling it?
Thanks tons!!!
Tom

This is a non-question. You can't use the X800XT in the Mac Pro -- it's AGP and the Mac Pro requires PCI-Express, plus it has the wrong BIOS.

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The first card burned up because it was a cheap, refurbished card from someone who hawks them on eBay. I thought it was a deal for only $160 and paid dearly for that. The card lasted only a few days. I received a replacement for that one from the supplier and that one lasted three weeks before it died. It didn't burn up like the first one, but shorted out.
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I am not planning to load Windows on my Mac, use it mainly for music, internet and casual gaming ( Apple games not Windows games ), I suppose for this the ATI 1900 would be sufficient and I do not really have to worry about a bigger graphics card.
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I have bought my Mac Pro with the X1900 card for the 'old' Windows games I already owned (latest was Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion).
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Did try the Prey Demo with the same settings and the resulting FPS (frames per second) were superb.
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Have Fun
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Check these
http://www.barefeats.com/quad14.html
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304122
Read the about the Expansion Slot manager in Apple Help.
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I've got this weird problem it looks like this
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I see thoes momentary freezes on my MacBook Pro but I
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about 3 hours today and didn't encounter even one of
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Thanks, Stefan --
I didn't de-install the nVidia drivers!!! D'oh...on
the OS X side, I can just swap between the cards at
will, the correct drivers get loaded.
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Also, how are you coping with the noise? My silent
cooler is working very nicely...
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It seems like the three easy options are another 1900, an 8800GT, or a 3870. I know there are other options if I feel like flashing (and spending a lot of money), but I'm not looking to get too crazy.
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Hi welcher,
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The 8800GT is known to be a killer performer, only being around 10% slower than their fastest card, the 8800 Ultra.
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When the Mac Pro came out. I read that it took a very
long time to get it delivered if you ordered a ATI
1900 w/the Mac Pro.
Is this true today? Will it take a month? A week?
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I just ordered it. And put in ship overnight. Did I
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Rosetta supports "software that runs on the PowerPC G3 or G4 processor that are built for Mac OS X". This excludes the items that are not universal binaries or simply will not work in Rosetta:
Classic Environment, and subsequently any Mac OS 9 or earlier applications
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Contextual Menu Items
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If you have problems with applications not working, then completely uninstall said application and reinstall it from scratch. Take great care with Java applications and Java-based Peer-to-Peer applications. Many Java apps will not work on Intel-Macs as they are currently compiled. As of this time Limewire, Cabos, and Acquisition are available as universal binaries. Do not install browser plug-ins such as Flash or Shockwave from downloaded installers unless they are universal binaries. The version of OS X installed on your Intel-Mac comes with special compatible versions of Flash and Shockwave plug-ins for use with your browser.
The same problem will exist for any hardware drivers such as mouse software unless the drivers have been compiled as universal binaries. For third-party mice the current choices are USB Overdrive or SteerMouse. Contact the developer or manufacturer of your third-party mouse software to find out when a universal binary version will be available.
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Before migrating or installing software on your Intel-Mac check MacFixit's Rosetta Compatibility Index.
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Intel In Macs
Apple Guide to Universal Applications
MacInTouch List of Compatible Universal Binaries
MacInTouch List of Rosetta Compatible Applications
MacUpdate List of Intel-Compatible Software
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