Auto sleep problem resolved
Just my experience how I resolved prolonged auto sleep issue. After trying all what was recommended here I shut down all running applications and auto sleep worked. I pinpointed two applications causing it and not allowing my MP with Leopard 10.5.5 auto sleep. It was Skype and Mail.
Milan
.Mac: Mail, Contacts, Calendar, Gallery, iDisk
Programs open:Safari, Skype, Mail, Calendar, Activity Monitor, Epson Artisan 800
Tried without programs, auto sleep not working
Checked Console today: no previously published repeated error
New repeated error:
1/27/09 6:03:47 AM com.apple.SystemStarter[37] Tue Jan 27 06:03:47 Milan-Kalus-MP-4.local osascript[1208] <Error>: kCGErrorRangeCheck : On-demand launch of the Window Server is allowed for root user only.
1/27/09 6:03:47 AM com.apple.SystemStarter[37] Tue Jan 27 06:03:47 Milan-Kalus-MP-4.local osascript[1208] <Error>: kCGErrorRangeCheck : Set a breakpoint at CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are returned
1/27/09 9:39:38 AM Skype[154] MacContact wrapper could not GetContact with identity: +1877652
1/27/09 9:39:39 AM Skype[154] MacContact wrapper could not GetContact with identity: +187765200
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Dec 21, 2011, 01:01 PM
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gswilder
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iMac Sleep Problem Waking - Screen Black & Pixelization
Have a new BTO 27" iMac I received a couple of weeks ago. Of course it is running Lion 10.7....
I am having a screen problem "waking" my iMac. (I also have this problem randomly on my MB Air - mid 2011 model)
After the iMac is in true sleep mode
(I have it set to enter a password after sleep mode)
Screen is blank/off
I "wiggle" my mouse or trackpad
Screen is still blank (sometimes it may display my screen saver, but the screensaver is frozen)
If I start moving the mouse or trackpad, it starts "un painting" the black screen. You can see whatever is supposed to be on the screen, such as the logon "button".
It is really wierd. Like a black "overlay" is painted on the resume from sleep screen. As I move my mouse or trackpad, it is basically erasing the black, to show what is underneath. Each movement of the mouse, erases a small black square.
I usually move my mouse around the middle of the screen to uncover the logon button. Press the logon button. The screen magically reappears as normal. I enter my password and system logs back on normally.
It only seems to be when the iMac is in really deep sleep mode. If the screen is just blank for an hour or so. I move the mouse/trackpad, and the logon screen is immediately displayed normally.
Any thoughts or recommendations?
Thanks to all in advance.
Greg
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Dec 23, 2011, 12:17 AM
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gswilder
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Still experimenting.
If certain programs are running (ie Firefox), then I don't have a problem coming out of deep sleep. It gives me a message when I reenter my password, that Firefox prevented the system from logging off.
Does that additional information help? It is a really annoying problem. And since I have it on my MBA, I am concerned it is more widespread. Does anyone else have this issue?
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Dec 24, 2011, 09:18 PM
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UNCHeelYeah
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Black Screen and "Erasure" with Mouse.
I am having this same problem. I am using the Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2, not using a screen saver, and it happens sporadically upon trying to wake my iMac from sleep mode. The screen is black, and as you move the mouse over the screen, it "erases" the black, like the opposite of a blackboard, to reveal the login name and picture underneath. After that everything works fine. There is no pattern to this that I can discern (e.g. - happens every fifth time, only happens when a program isn't running etc.). It appears random, but is uber annoying, and behaves like a virus. I have Norton Antivirus, and it updates daily, and upon scanning states no virus is found. I also do system scan with MacKeeper, and it scans, says system is excellent. Something is definitely going on, I just wish I knew what it was. If anyone has any knowledge of this, any solution or insight would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Dec 25, 2011, 12:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UNCHeelYeah
It appears random, but is uber annoying, and behaves like a virus. I have Norton Antivirus, and it updates daily, and upon scanning states no virus is found.
That's because there are no Mac OS X viruses. You should uninstall Norton. You don't need 3rd party antivirus apps to protect your Mac from malware. Macs are not immune to malware, but no true viruses exist in the wild that can run on Mac OS X, and there never have been any since it was released 10 years ago. The only malware in the wild that can affect Mac OS X is a handful of trojans, which can be easily avoided with some basic education, common sense and care in what software you install. Also, Mac OS X Snow Leopard and Lion have anti-malware protection built in, further reducing the need for 3rd party antivirus apps.
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Originally Posted by UNCHeelYeah
I also do system scan with MacKeeper, and it scans, says system is excellent.
You don't need MacKeeper, either. You really don't need "cleaner" or "maintenance" apps to keep your Mac running well, and some of these apps can do more harm than good. Most only remove files/folders or unused languages or architectures, which does nothing more than free up some drive space. It will not make your Mac run faster or more efficiently, since having stuff stored on a drive does not impact performance, unless you're running out of drive space.
Mac OS X does a good job of taking care of itself, without the need for 3rd party software.
Your problem, and the OP's is a graphics problem, likely having to do with the screensaver, not a malware problem.
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Dec 26, 2011, 08:13 AM
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UNCHeelYeah
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Norton Antivirus, and what does it mean?
I suppose one reason I developed a concern that there was more here than meets the proverbial eye, so to speak was a message that I have received through Norton on multiple occasions. The last message of similar stated messages reads as follows (Norton Antivirus 2.2.1 (5) ): "Vulnerability blocked, December 13th, 2011, 8:57 P.M. When I click on "View Recent Activities", a window is opened that is titled "Activity Log." There, four columns are listed, titled from left to right "Date", "Event Type", "Result", and "Details." Under the December 13th episode, It lists "Portscan" under Event type, "Result" gives an IP Address (192.168.x.xxx), and "Incoming" under details.
I am admittedly a neophyte in the Mac world, having switched over from Windows 7 to Mac recently, but am intent on educating myself to the not-so-subtle differences. The above information that Norton displayed would lead one to believe that their antivirus software is protecting my iMac, and that its subsequent removal would have perhaps disastrous results ( i.e. - my iMac would be susceptible to said "Vulnerability", whatever it is, and that "Incoming would NOT be blocked). I had a conversation with Norton because previously, every time the stated "Vulnerability" attempted access, I was interrupted by a pop-up screen informing me of this. The Norton representative was able to turn off the pop-up screen notification, but stated that it would continue to log episodes of the "Vulnerability" when it attempted to portscan and access. So am I to understand that uninstalling Norton would leave my computer no less vulnerable to this vulnerability? It is confusing to me.
Furthermore, I suppose I did wonder if this vulnerability threat had anything to do with the issue of the black screen erasure with the mouse. I will attempt to post a picture of the screen as it was being erased with the mouse, and perhaps a short movie as well. As previously stated, I do not have a screen saver enabled. Thank you for your input, any information is helpful to me! _
~Marc
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Dec 26, 2011, 11:19 AM
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gswilder
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Ditto & FYI Workaround
UncHeel...
Thanks for posting the picture. It is same as my iMac problem. On my iMac, it happens 100% of the time. On my MBA, it happens randomly like yours.
I began to notice if certain programs were running, when it went into screen saver and sleep mode, this didn't happen. And when I woke it up, I got a message that said "could not be logged off due to Firefox or Sketchbook Pro, etc. So that got me to thinking. So....
Over the weekend, I disabled "logoff after xx minutes of activity" in system preferences. That seems to fix the issue. I still have it set to require a password after the screen saver/sleep mode kicks it. But I disabled the logoff toggle.
Still not sure what this is an issue, but seems to be a work around. I just want to make sure my iMac is still going into sleep with these new settings. Including the monitor sleep.
Any thoughts based on this new information?
Thanks again
Greg
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Dec 26, 2011, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by UNCHeelYeah
The above information that Norton displayed would lead one to believe that their antivirus software is protecting my iMac, and that its subsequent removal would have perhaps disastrous results
You have to remember that many antivirus apps consider cookies to be a "vulnerability" or "threat", when they're not. The only malware in the wild that can affect Mac OS X requires the user to actively install it. As long as a user is reasonably careful about where they get software, there is no need for 3rd party antivirus apps to protect Mac OS X from malware. Just make sure your firewall is enabled (System Preferences > Security > Firewall), and disable Java in your browser (Safari > Preferences > Security > Enable Java (uncheck))
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Originally Posted by gswilder
I just want to make sure my iMac is still going into sleep with these new settings. Including the monitor sleep.
You can let it sleep without logging off. That way, your apps/documents are still open when you wake it up, rather than having to relaunch apps and reopen documents. Recovery from sleep is much faster than from logging off.
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Dec 27, 2011, 03:02 PM
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rda2w
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gswilder
UncHeel...
Thanks for posting the picture. It is same as my iMac problem. On my iMac, it happens 100% of the time. On my MBA, it happens randomly like yours.
I began to notice if certain programs were running, when it went into screen saver and sleep mode, this didn't happen. And when I woke it up, I got a message that said "could not be logged off due to Firefox or Sketchbook Pro, etc. So that got me to thinking. So....
Over the weekend, I disabled "logoff after xx minutes of activity" in system preferences. That seems to fix the issue. I still have it set to require a password after the screen saver/sleep mode kicks it. But I disabled the logoff toggle.
Still not sure what this is an issue, but seems to be a work around. I just want to make sure my iMac is still going into sleep with these new settings. Including the monitor sleep.
Any thoughts based on this new information?
Thanks again
Greg
I have had the same problem on my mid-2010 iMac since upgrading to Lion and it's been driving me nuts. The relation to automatic Logoff makes sense to me now that I look at my settings. The logoff was occurring after sleep and it's the only thing I haven't tried yet. I had previously thought it was related to Sleep but it never occurs if I force it to sleep. It only occurs after the system was left unattended and went through it's normal steps of screensaver then sleep. I'll try disabling the automatic Logoff and see if it fixes the problem for me too.
-BA
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Dec 29, 2011, 10:58 AM
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rda2w
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Originally Posted by rda2w
I have had the same problem on my mid-2010 iMac since upgrading to Lion and it's been driving me nuts. The relation to automatic Logoff makes sense to me now that I look at my settings. The logoff was occurring after sleep and it's the only thing I haven't tried yet. I had previously thought it was related to Sleep but it never occurs if I force it to sleep. It only occurs after the system was left unattended and went through it's normal steps of screensaver then sleep. I'll try disabling the automatic Logoff and see if it fixes the problem for me too.
-BA
I can only declare partial success with unpicking "logoff after xx". It solved the pixelated screen issue but now the computer is not sleeping. I guess I'll have to uncheck file sharing now.
-BA
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Feb 6, 2012, 06:26 PM
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Any updates?
Just wanted to see if there had been any changes since the last posting in this thread. I'm experiencing the same issue as OP on my 2011 13" MacBook Air w/ OS X 10.7.3, as well as on my parents' mid-2010 iMac (running OS X 10.7.2).
I can't seem to pin down the cause and have tried the steps suggested previously. Thanks!
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Feb 21, 2012, 10:03 PM
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wchp
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Still having the same issue here as well.
Have any of you tried a clean install of OSX?
Before I try a full reinstall I did an install on a external drive with no aps, just the bare install and I could not replicate the issue.
I continue to question if this is a graphics card firmware issue or and OS issue.
A reinstall (overlay) of the OS did not resolve the issue.
I have screen shots as follows:
1) Paint pixels on screen
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p227/wchp/iMac27%20Graphics%20Problem/photo1. jpg
2) Click Icon
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p227/wchp/iMac27%20Graphics%20Problem/photo2. jpg
3) Type in PWD
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p227/wchp/iMac27%20Graphics%20Problem/photo3. jpg
4) Logged in:
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p227/wchp/iMac27%20Graphics%20Problem/photo4. jpg
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jrobin
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Having the same issue
I have four MacBooks and a MacBook Air. I am seeing this issue on two MacBooks both running Lion 10.7.3. One is a newer i5 MacBook the other is an early 2010. The only common denominator I can think of is they are both set up with Parental Controls and they are set to logoff after X amount of time. The other MacBooks don't have this "pixel painting to revel the login screen issue" I also don't see it on our iMacs or the MacMini. Only the two with the issue are set to auto logoff. So the above poster is most likely on to something. I will give it a try by turning off the auto logoff on the two MacBooks in question. If that solves the problem then I will assume its a bug that needs to be addressed.
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ougrad1764
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reinstall (overlay) of the OS did not resolve the issue
wchp - Thank you for following up and posting the screenshots. They match exactly what I was experiencing (and what UNCHeelYeah reported previously). I can confirm that I experienced the issue even following a clean reinstall of Snow Leopard on my MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2011).
jrobin - "I will give it a try by turning off the auto logoff on the two MacBooks in question. If that solves the problem then I will assume its a bug that needs to be addressed."
Good thinking! Thanks for taking the time to test with your machines. This will help provide further validation of what gswilder (OP) tried as well in reply #6. Interesting about Parental Controls, too.
Side note:
Since I recently joined the Apple Developers program, I did a clean install of SL on my MBA then upgraded via the App Store to Mountain Lion to "kick-the-tires" if you will. Interestingly, I've not yet experienced any issue related to waking from sleep with a black screen and pixilation, even while running all the same apps I had previously. I'll report here (and file a bug report with Apple) if I do see this issue pop-up in ML. I'll be reinstalling SL in a few weeks and will report back if/when the black screen and pixelation issue reappears. I'll be sure to note the applications left running at the time the computer went to sleep.
Last edited by ougrad1764; Yesterday at 12:44 AM. Reason: Follow-up to jrobin (reply came in while I was typing mine)
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evillanueva
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I have experienced the same issue with my brand new MBA Late 2011.
I recently found out that this only happens when DISPLAY is set to go to sleep minutes before the "Log out after X minutes of inactivity". I had "Display sleep" option set to 5 minutes and "Log out after 10 minutes of inactivity" and this causes the display to go to sleep first (screen goes black) and then, 5 minutes later, it logs out.
If "Display sleep" is off and "Log out after X minutes of inactivity" is on, the issue does not replicate. So Im thinking it has something to do with the screen being black at the moment it logs out. Can you try and replicate that?
Thanks
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Yesterday, 01:39 PM
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wchp
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by evillanueva
I have experienced the same issue with my brand new MBA Late 2011.
I recently found out that this only happens when DISPLAY is set to go to sleep minutes before the "Log out after X minutes of inactivity". I had "Display sleep" option set to 5 minutes and "Log out after 10 minutes of inactivity" and this causes the display to go to sleep first (screen goes black) and then, 5 minutes later, it logs out.
If "Display sleep" is off and "Log out after X minutes of inactivity" is on, the issue does not replicate. So Im thinking it has something to do with the screen being black at the moment it logs out. Can you try and replicate that?
Thanks
Just tested this premise and yes, you are correct.
IF: Screen saver ON after 5m AND require password immediately AND Sleep (Display) after 30m AND Logout after 60m I am able to reproduce the problem.
IF: Screen Saver ON after 5m AND require password immediately AND Sleep (Display) after 30m AND Logut after xx NOT enabled, problem goes away
IF: Screen Saver ON after 5m AND require password immediately AND Sleep (Display) OFF AND Logut after 60M enabled, problem goes away
So on my machine (iMac 27, 3.4/i7, 16GB/1333, Radeon 6970m/2048MB, OSX 10.7.3
It would appear that if I am running Monitor Sleep and it kicks in prior to LogOff then I am able to reproduce this artifact. Only Display sleep with immediate login OR Loguot should be used but not both.
The only other thing to test is is I leave display sleep on, and screen saver on but with NO immediate password and enable logoff if the problem goes away.
Testing for another day.
I have linked this entire thread to a Apple support ticket and will report back on Apples responseThank you so much wchp, this is brilliant. I have had this annoying problem for a long time. I eventually rang Mac support, they did not know how to fix the problem as you have suggested so they instigated many hardware replacements which eventually left my iMac severely crippled. They eventually replaced it with the latest model. But I spent two months working with a disabled computer which really interfere with my work.
Your solution appears to have solved my problem, at least so far, but I am hopeful that it is a permanent fix. I hope that your suggestions are taken up by Apple support. This may solve many users problems and avoid Apple making expensive fixes that don't actually work.
I thought that the new iMac would not have the 'Wake up from sleep by painting in the login window' problem but it did, this really annoyed me. Anyway now the problem appears to be solved, it's not I will repost and keep working on it. Thanks again. -
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I already unplugged my USB devices, didn't help. Then I trashed my energy saver and bluetooth preferences and reset PRAM by pressing <commandoption+PR> at startup, no luck. I read all the previous posts about this issue and did everything they said, but it didn't help.
maybe someone has an additional suggestion.
Thank you!
David
Power Mac G4 (mdd) 867 dual Mac OS X (10.4.3)A number of sleep-related issues can appear after incremental Mac OSX updates, including the inability to properly go to sleep, problems waking from sleep, and having your display go to sleep without your Mac going to sleep. The most common culprit is Bluetooth. Try these tips to fix your sleep problems.
WAKE UP
In System Preferences>Bluetooth, uncheck Allow Bluetooth Devices To Wake This Computer. If you are using a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard, you'll have to wake your Mac by pressing the power button.
FILE CORRUPTION
Your Bluetooth preference file may be corrupt-you'll need to delete it. Turn Bluetooth off, then go to the /Users/user name/Library/Preferences folder. Look for a file called com.apple.Bluetooth.plist and trash it.The OS will create a new preference file when you enable Bluetooth again.
ENERGY SAVER
If you have issues with a Mac or display that goes to sleep at inappropriate times, you may have a problem with Energy Saver. Delete the following .plist files and restart:
-/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.PowerManagement.plist
-/Users/username/Library/Preferences/com.apple.systemuiserver.plist--(username is your name or System Administrators name).
-/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.AutoWake.plist
A restart is very important after deleting these plists. After a reboot your Mac will then generate new ones.
In some cases, running MacOS X's cron tasks-maintenance that the OS performs automatically if you leave your Mac on 24 hours a day-can resolve many sleep problems. If you don't want to leave your Mac on, you can use MacJanitor, Yasu, or OnyX free at Versiontracker.com.
Some, in these forums, have had luck fixing sleep issues downloading the combo update from this site (yours may be corrupt), not Software Update, disconnect all firewire + USB devices except keyboard + mouse, Repair Permissions, re-install update, Repair Permissions again + try.
Yours would be the 10.3.9 combo update. Others here would use the one for their version.
Cheers!
DALE -
Mac mini core solo 1.5 sleep problems
computer will not awake from sleep mode. anyone got the same issues?
Comment on jord's response above:
There shouldn't be any problem with putting a computer with an audio interface to sleep. The main reason we turn off auto-sleeping on a computer with Logic is so the computer doesn't spontaneously put itself to sleep while recording. I've never had sleep troubles using Digi 002, Firebox, Saffire, FF800 or Metric Halo 2882 +DSP. Of course, I don't use an auto-sleep timer, but I always put the computer to sleep at least once a day, and never shut downthe system or unplug the audio interface.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some interfaces which don't like to be put to sleep. Those are likely devices which provide their own, slightly buggy, device driver (kext.) -
Managed accounts and failure to auto sleep
Since getting my Mini and upgrading it to leopard I have been having problems with it failing to auto sleep and eventually needing a hard reset to work again.
Last night I spent the entire evening trying different configurations and I've worked out the problem:
The machine will not go into sleep mode on it's own when logged on to a managed user account. It will go to sleep and wake up if both operations are performed manually, but not automatically, according to the settings in "Energy Saver".
Auto sleep and wake works fine when the machine is logged on to a standard or admin account.
To ensure that it is not something in the user account that is causing the problem I have changed the status of the account in question to standard and admin and sleep/wakes works fine, but when the account is put into managed (parent) mode, it fails.
Any ideas? (the machine is used mainly by the kids so I can't leave the machine in standard)Nobody had this problem??
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External Hard drive Auto-sleep Disable
I have a problem with my external drive, a Seagate GoFlex 2TB. Basically the drive goes to sleep while I am transfering files and freezes up Finder. From what I have read, a possible solution would be to disable the auto sleep in the drive firmware but I am unable to find software that will allow me to do this. Using the seettings in Engery Preferences does not effect the external drive. It is appartent that I can change the sleep timer Using CHUD Ulitities, which is included in XCode in Lion, so I am waiting for XCode to download. I have no idea where to start with CHUD though, any suggestions as to another application that will help me out with this problem, or how to change the Sleep timer using CHUD?
ThanksNo, Energy Saver prefs have no effect on external drives.
CHUD is a simple GUI interface that lets you set the interval that each disk is pinged. It will keep the disk spinning but that's not always desireable, especially if the disk tends to run hot.
I used CHUD when I was having an issue with some chained FW disks and it did keep it spinning, although I feared more for the disk than the chain. It didn't really solve my issue, so I found another workaround. Hard disks spin down after about 15 minutes of inactivity for a reason. -
Ever since I updated to 10.4.7, my dual G5 won't automatically sleep after any amount of time I set it to. The computer will sleep if I force it to either using the keyboard shortcut or through the Apple menu. The computer will also auto sleep in the other computer accounts on the same machine. For whatever reason, it will not auto sleep on my account. I few weeks ago, I created a brand new alias and moved all my files from my non-sleeping account to the new one. The auto sleep for for a few days before it stopped working.
I've tried trashing plists, preferences, removing USB devices, stopped file sharing, and more. I changed all my settings and active programs to exactly mirror the ones on the working account - but, nothing seems to be working.
I haven't tried flashing the PRAM yet, but I figure the problem is elsewhere since the computer will sleep on other accounts. Under my System Preferences, the extra panes I have are ATI Displays, DivX, Little Snitch, Nortorn Antivirus, Stuffit, and WMV Player. These panes also exist on the other accounts.
Anyone have any ideas what else may be causing this problem? I'm almost positive it's software related, but I don't know how to troubleshoot further given that I've already tried to make my account mirror that of a working one.
Thanks in advance.
Dual 2.5 G5 Mac OS X (10.4.7)Well Norton is famous for causing problems for Mac users, just search, but perhaps it could be another problem.
Open the System Prefs>Energy Saver and set the auto-sleep to something really low.
Now leave the pane open and unlocked and just wait for the sleep to kick in.
Wake it up and set the time to a little bit longer, enough that you know it's not the minimum and this time close the pane.
If this fails, offload Norton and try again.
Norton has had a few application exploits, something to think about, also most anything from Microsoft seems to continously have security exploits.
Also you should be cloning your boot drive occassionally, visit Carbon Copy Cloners forums for donationware software and read the "Before you clone" in their forums. -
When I purchased my iMac it came with Leopard 10.5.6 and auto sleep worked without problems, but after updating to 10.5.7 my iMac no longer went to sleep automatically and this continued after 10.5.8. Updated my iMac to Snow Leopard 10.6, everything went perfectly and to my surprise auto sleep worked absolutely perfectly, whatever I set it too. But, I updated to 10.6.1 and auto sleep has gone again. It's not a big deal, but I've been really impressed with Snow Leopard and so surprised to see this problem come back. Tried most of the suggestions that people make, without success and beyond Apple programs, have very little installed on my system. Just wondered if anyone had any brilliant ideas on this?
This is for a Mac that won't sleep.
Here is Apple's KB article HT1776 with their tips.
Mine follow;
USB devices and hubs often cause Macs to not sleep or wake quickly from sleep (notably HP printers and scanners, HP all in ones, and Cannon scanners). Disconnect all USB except for keyboard and mouse and try. If it sleeps, add one back at a time testing after each one to find the culprit.
If you've set your Mac to receive faxes, it may not be able to sleep. It might also have a damaged preferences file.
If you use your Mac for faxing, open System Preferences. click Print & Fax, click the Faxing tab, and uncheck the Receive Faxes On This Computer box.
If that doesn't work or you've never faxed on your Mac, go to Finder/Hard Drive /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration and delete the com.apple.PowerManagement.plist and com..apple.AutoWake.plist files (if your Mac asks, type your admin. password).
If the latter file isn't present in the folder, go to user name(probably your name)/Library/Preferences, delete the com.apple.systemuiserver.plist file, and reboot your Mac.
Hope this helps!
P.S. One member here reported this (Michael Gleason);
"I have had this problem with my IMac G5. It is surprisingly irritating. LaCie's Silverkeeper backup software was the cause. By default it gave itself permission to wake up the computer to check if a backup was needed. Do you have this or a similar program installed which has scheduled activities including wake-up permissions as an option?"
Dave Hamilton provided this link, xlr8yourmac.com, to a member, which addresses failure of deep sleep with some users that updated and added new FireWire and USB card.
Also, here is Apple KB article TA2469 about PCI cards and sleep.
tomhorvat adds this; After few days of messing around I found out that I had desktop background (wallpaper) set to change every 1 minute.
After unchecking "Change picture..." in system preferences (under Desktop/Screen saver), my powerbook went to sleep all by itself.
Tristan Currier noticed this; "I have a Canon printer(shared) and my imac would not sleep. I opened up printer/fax in system prefs and noticed it said the printer was in use when it was off. Opened up the printer queue and noticed about 7 pending documents. Deleted them all and now it sleeps.
Check the printer queue!"
Allan Jones says "sometimes there is Network activity: launch System Preferences > Energy Saver > "Options" tab and uncheck "Wake for Ethernet network administrator access."
Good Luck! DALE -
Auto Sleep broken by ATI Firmware update?
Since the ATI firmware update for my Alum 24" iMac 2.4 GHz, the auto sleep function is no longer working. I can sleep the computer manually via the apple menu, but the auto sleep controlled from the energy saver panel in system preferences never seems to kick in.
I tried trashing the plist for energy management. Tried un-checking "wake when modem detects a ring", "wake for Ethernet administrator access" boxes, but no dice.
Is anyone else out there facing a similar issue, or have a solution?By retracing my steps, I began removing items that had been added before the restart which was required by the firmware update. There was a widget from appleinsider.com that I deleted, and auto sleep now functions normally. Curiously, the same widget is on my iBook G4 running Leopard 10.5.1 with no conflicts.
I think the key is that whatever request the widget was making was preventing the autosleep, and that it had not developed into a problem until after the restart following the update.
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I have an Intel imac that I've had for about 9 months. It is on a normal sleep setting and I usually wake it from sleep by moving the mouse.
In the past 3 weeks, though, I have had to wake it up by pressing the space bar. When I do this the computer pauses for a moment and I hear something wind down (I would say it is the hard drive, but the tone of the sound actually goes down rather than up - as if something got stuck on its way to sleeping).
Any ideas about this ? I also had the computer go to sleep yesterday and not wake up (led lights on screen were on, but nothing on the screen). I powered it down and tried to turn it back on, but same result (backlight on, but no boot up). I finally had to pull the power plug and restart the computer with the power button depressed. This seemed to shake up the computer and get it running again.
My sleep problem, though, is still the same. I'm not sure if these issues are related or not, but looking for some feedback on possible issues...
Thanks, MarkHi Mark
+The System Management Controller (SMC) is a chip on the logic board that controls all power functions for your computer. If your computer is experiencing any power issue, resetting the SMC may resolve it. The SMC controls several functions, including:+
+* Telling the computer when to turn on, turn off, sleep, wake, idle, and so forth.+
+* Handling system resets from various commands.+
+* Controlling the fans.+
If you are still having any of the above issues reset the SMC as described in the following article!
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1543
Dennis -
Firmware version explanation + sleep problem
My 10 days old iMac baby has problems to sleep. It goes to sleep but after 5-6 minutes it's awaken again. I tried everything I found relevant to this problem on this discussion board but no help at all. Mac baby was born with 10.4.8 and now it's at 10.4.10 - combo update, everything else is working perfectly well except this sleeping problem. I
After all, I went on Apple download in order to check if there are some EFI Firmware updates and now I'm more than confused with numbers.'
On Apple's site it's clearly written that the most recent firmware version for my iMac is "IM51.0090.B03 (20-inch late 2006)" http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/imacefifirmwareupdate11.html but my System Profiler shows higher number count: "IM51.0090.B08".
From System Profiler:
Hardware Overview:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.16 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM51.0090.B08
SMC Version: 1.9f4
Does anybody has any idea about this?
Tnx,
Denis
iMac 20'' (Late 2006) Mac OS X (10.4.10) 2 Gb Crucial DDR2 RAM @ 667 MHZ, WD My Book Premium Edition 250 GBOthers have also found what appears to be a discrepancy in the firmware that System Profiler reports installed on their Mac versus the version reported in Apple Knowledge Base documents. The definitive document for me is Mac OS X: Firmware Updates for Intel-based Macs. This doc confirms the information that you report, so the logical explanation to me is that, although the doc was last updated by Apple on 1 MAY 2007, there has been an update to installed firmware in Macs shipping since the doc was last updated.
But the firmware shouldn't have anything to do with whether your Mac sleeps or not. Sleep is one of the things regulated by the System Management Controller. This can be reset.
But there are many other things that can interrupt the Mac auto-sleeping; external FW/USB peripheral devices, wifi, Bluetooth, etc. Have you added any such devices recently.
Maybe you are looking for
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