Automatic batch determination without maintain the class in material master

Hi,
       Is it possible that we can do automatic batch determination with-out maintaining the class in material master.
       My requirement is i want to do batch splitting at PGI level & user dont want to maintain class in material master only they will maintain VCH1.
       if i will maintain class then batch splitting happening at PGI but if i will remove the batch from material master as well as strategy group then splitting not happening.
Regards
Puneet

Hi,
if any one have solution then pls update
Regards
Puneet
Edited by: puneet rhythm sharma on Dec 7, 2011 6:14 AM

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