Automatic derivation of Profit centers

hi all
is there a possiblity that profit center can be derived based on the customer?
rquirement is .. profit centers are divided geographically, they have only one revenue account . and based on the customer we can tell to which profit center that revenue line item is to be posted. how can we achive this in the SAP.
in 3kei i am seeing GL account but not customer. is there any other way
pls help
thanks in advance
kalyan

Hello you can go for a substitution, create a set of customers for a region and then you can give the pre req as if the customer is from set 1 then substitute with the appropriate profit center. use ggb1 for substitution
points will be appreciated
Regards,
Zaid Azam

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Karol W

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