Backorder processing: Error in WMENG quantity

Hello Experts,
Please, I really need a help to solve this problem.
I have a problem with BOP execution in some orders, the order below was requested 5 and we have 3 in stock, and should remain 2:
and when you look in ECC, at TCODE VA03, the quantity remain is 26.660,:
anybody has an idea what's the problem?
I and abap consultant debug the BOP transaction and we look that quantity already wrong in APO side:
Thanks in advance,
Alexandre Landi

Hello Alexandre,
You mentioned that you had already checked this and in APO side the quantity is wrong. But, I would say that the quantity that you're seeing in APO perhaps might be the processed data. What I mean the error in fact could have occured in ECC ( during any of the user exits ) and the sales order has been saved with this erroneous quantity and the same data has been updated back in APO with the Outbound queue that flows to APO.
What you need to do now is, reject the sales document line item completely in ECC. Save it and go to APO and see that the sales document line is disappeared from RRP3 view. Once this is done, open the sales document in vA02 and do an availability check on the sales order line item. Try to see, what is the remaining requirements that is being proposed by the system in the delivery proposal screen. If you see that system is giving the erroneous record at this point, you can confirm that the issue is indeed in APO and one of the user exits in APO could be causing this. Or may be the second substitute product has different Base Unit of Measure and Sales Unit of Measure could also be different., You need to check this. But, if you see the remaining requirements as 2PCs in delivery proposal screen, accept the delivery proposal quantity and save the sales order and see the schedule lines. Do you see an incorrect figures ? If yes - the bug is in ECC side and you need to debug what happened after ATP check results are passed back to ECC from APO. If you see the quantities to be as expected.
Hope this helps
Babu Kilari

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> I dont know If you have gone through this document:
> The lines in bold explains clearly uptill what extent
> you can do the FAIR SHARE RULE.
>
> I believe we cannot do EXACTLY what you have
> stated in your example.
> Availability Check is the core for comfirmation of a
> sales order.
>
> Whatever customizing you do in the user exit, donot
> attemp to do your own availability check logic...
>
> GOOD LUCK and let us know when you have done the
> coding.
> ******************************************************
> *******************************
> EXIT_/SAPAPO/SAPLBOP_040 :
>
> ATP, BOP: Scope of Check for Backorder Processing
> Functionality
> The user exit is called in backorder processing
> before the availability check is called.
>
> The requirements to be checked and the correction
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> transferred to the function module.
>
> Depending on the settings for backorder processing,
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> (according to the settings for the check
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> The correction quantities are determined for each
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> You must not change the adjustment entries for
> planning.
>
> ***************************************************
> APOBO040 scope of check:
>
> Scope of Check for Batch Backorder Processing
> The function module EXIT_/SAPAPO/SAPLBOP_040 is
> called before the availability check in backorder
> processing. The documents have already been selected
> (filter) and sorted.
>
> Environment
> The requirements to be checked and the corresponding
> correction quantities of the individual basic methods
> are transferred to the function module.
>
> By changing (reducing) the requirements, a fair share
> logic can be implemented using this function module.
>
> By changing (reducing) the correction quantities,
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> backorder processing. This is only possible for the
> basic methods product availability check and product
> allocation.
>
> Message was edited by:
> Kumar Ayyagari

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