Batch Management Implementation in Cement Industry.

Dear All
I would like to understand about Batch Management Implementation in Cement Industry.
I have some inputs on Batch Management but from Implementation in Cement Industry would like to exactly understand what are the typical scenarios for Batch Management.What should be the Batch level ie at material,client or plant level?
Has anybody worked on Batch Management Implementation in Cement Industry.?
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Batch management drives us difficulty, all finished goods have a batch number in our system. But cause of this our system grows fastly and process management is so difficult. We think about cancelling batch management and use serial number management for product trace. But one of my friends offers me for managing batches as production order level. This means each production order (material differs) will have batch number and at trace the materials with serial number.
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techmaster wrote:
> Hi all,
> Batch management drives us difficulty, all finished goods have a batch number in our system. But cause of this our system grows fastly and process management is so difficult. We think about cancelling batch management and use serial number management for product trace. But one of my friends offers me for managing batches as production order level. This means each production order (material differs) will have batch number and at trace the materials with serial number.
>
> I want to know the effects of batch level to the system. For example it's useful to cancel batch management for system growth. Or have we use batch management at one level like production order level? For CO side, it's useful for using batches as production level or completely cancel batch management ?
>
> Thanks,
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- Batch numbers have the obvious limitation of 10 characters, serial numbers allow 18
- Batches are normally used in process industry (pharma, food etc), serial numbers are linked to equipments, and have the functionality to check the status at the client level (within which plant/sloc, with customer etc)
- Tracing the history of a serial number becomes easier (particularly useful in case of customer returns / repairs)
- Serial numbers are unique, you can have multiple units of a particular batch.
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my location is Chile ..
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Within what is the batch management in SAP Business One, specifically when it is done out of a product, you can view the lots available and implement a self-selection button.
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http://www.sapfans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=289203
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