Best drum loops for use with Logic? Ease of use, usability, etc.

Hi,
I have BFD2 but find it slow to load and sometimes clumsy auditioning loops within Logic. I love the Apple Loops library but I wondered if people are importing MIDI drum files for use with Logic. Do all drum files use the same MIDI mapping? If I drop a BFD2 loop into a Logic drum virtual instrument will it work? I bought a few packs from Groove Monkee but have yet to use them with Logic. I only use them within BFD2.
I'm basically looking for a seamless way to stay within Logic to improve my workflow. It's taken me days sometimes to get a drum track right by going back and forth with BFD2. Is there a concept I'm missing that would make it easier?
Thanks

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In my view, you already have Logic, which offers a superb drum programming environment from the start. I have a screenset with the hyper editor, event editor, event float and various other bits on there, and I can do very sophisticated drum programming/editing there.
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Sometimes buying a new toy does make life easier, but often it's just an excuse (if I buy this, I'll be able to finally make the super-dope beats I have difficult doing now).
Buying new stuff doesn't bypass the need to develop your musical skills (I wish that it did!
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Did I say that Stylus RMX rocks hard? Good.

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Hey all:
In the holiday spirit of giving back to the community, etc., etc., I thought maybe you all would enjoy some badass drum loops to play around with in Soundtrack Pro (my all-time favorite Apple program).
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This is a zip file containing an array of drum loops with which to play around.
http://www.21ca.com/drums/FrankColeman-DrumLoops01-162bpm.zip (about 11MB)
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http://www.21ca.com/drums/FrankColeman-DrumLoops02-136bpm.zip (about 20MB)
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This is my vintage chrome Slingerland kit, from a session last year. I did 11 tracks in 90 minutes, by myself, to a click, so there's lots more where this came from.
Well-recorded (at The Cutting Room Studios NYC) and tightly edited (by me), so they'll drop right into Soundtrack or any other loop-savvy program.
If you end up using them for something meaningful, all I ask is proper attribution and send me a copy. I'd be fascinated to hear what you come up with. More to follow.
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