Bidding Engine in Classic Scenario
We are implementing SRM7 with Bidding Engine. According to this forum it is possible now to use Direct Procurement (Plan-Driven Procurement) in both Classic and Extended Classic scenario.
However, according to SAP, Bidding Engine can only be used in Extended Classic scenario - is this correct? Can someone please confirm as we are looking to use a Classic Scenario with Direct Procurement and Bidding Engine. Requirement is to have both Project procurement (requisitions from ERP) and shopping cart in SRM, going to Sourcing (RFQ/Bid), and creating the leading PO in ERP, not SRM.
Hello Monica
Bidding is possible both in Classic and Extended classic deployements
As of SRM7.0, you can directcly route the PRs (projects/MRP) from ECC to create a RFx in Bidding Engine. You will need activate the relevant SOA service and a BADI to be activated.
Following information may helps you
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Implementing BaDI for RFQ Request SUITE Request
In order to use the SOA RFQRequestSUITERequest message, you have to
implement the BaDI named BBP_EBPXML_OUT_BADI. Please create a BaDI
implementation for the interface: REQUESTFORQUOTE with the following
code:
METHOD if_ex_bbp_ebpxml_out_badi~requestforquote.
use SOA system type to get the SOA interface
from bbp_function_map.
cv_system_type = 'ESASAPXML1'.
ENDMETHOD.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Thanks
Kiran
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm70/helpdata/EN/48/3003eb2c8a72d0e10000000a42189c/frameset.htm
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