"bit rate too high" in menus with overlay files

Hi
I opened in DVDSP4 a project I was working in DVDSP2.
In DVDSP2 the project could build without a problem but now on DVDSP4 during build the program either gets stuck or gives the message "Muxer Bitrate Too High" when it reaches a menu with an overlay file (tiff or jpeg / advanced colors).
I didn't add any new assets to the project, just used transitions between buttons and menus available in DVDSP4.
As soon as I remove the overlay file, build continues succesfully.
Anybody has an idea about why this is happening?

Thank you for looking into this issue
Here is something I tried out:
I set the same file used for the overlay, as background image, and build was successful, which probably means that DVDSP can handle this type of file
Ps. Originally the files were tiff (they worked fine in DVD studio pro 2)
When the build problem started in DVDSP4, I converted them in jpeg but I had the same results.

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Build Folder /Volumes/MAXTOR HD/PAL videos
Starting DVD Build 5TIBTAINS_BIL...
Compiler Initializing...
Precompiling Project 5TIBTAINS_BIL
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Rendering Menu:Menu 1,Language:2...
Compiling Menu#2 (Menu 2)...
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Rendering Menu:Menu 2,Language:2...
Compiling Menu#3 (Menu 2a)...
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Rendering Menu:Menu 2a,Language:2...
Compiling Menu#4 (Menu 1a)...
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Generating Transition: auto Play, Clip 3...
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