Bounce Management - Retrieving Mime Information
Hi Gurus
We are implementing Bounce Management to allow processing for Bounced Emails as part of Marketing Campaigns.
Our Campaign Mail Forms include MIG values and based on how the EMail Configuration is set-up this information is visible in Transation SOIN as part of the MIME data returned with a Bounced Email.
Our trouble is that we have created a custom Fact Fathering service, as a copy of the SAP Standard Service for Bounce Fact Gathering. I copied the standard Class and added a breakpoint into it so that I could debug the process. When a bounce comes in, it only retrieves a small number of the available characteristics of the email.
The MIME information does not appear to be accessed at all.
Could someone please advise on how to access the MIME data via a Fact Gathering Service
Many Thanks in Advance
Panduranga
Hello Stefan,
if you check SAP code, it will not change anything in an eMail which comes back as a bounce from whatever mailserver, it just update some data to execute the rules which are maintained in ERMS.
Therefore the problem you have with Borderware mail server is the standard behaviour of all external mail servers, which normally send back bounces as an attachment and that is how it works in standard SAP CRM system.
Moreover, there are many different mail servers, some do not attach the original eMail. Try one if you can if that crucial one for you.
Thanks,
Raja Pamireddy
CRM Marketing forum Moderator.
Similar Messages
-
RE: Polymorphism - retrieving type information from thedatabase or how
Don,
Ok but if I was to model a real restaurant, I would then have a head chef
that can then delegate to other chefs. This head chef would have the
additional task of coordinating the completion of subservient chefs. This
does not and would not mean that the head chef is stuck (or partitioned) in
one part of the kitchen. Further a head chef would most likely also be a
chef so that he would be running around the kitchen using and interacting
with different objects to get his part of the recipe completed. Then once
all chefs have completed their part of the recipe the head chef could return
the meal.
I would also point out that it does not make sense to me to be talking about
the chef and its ability to scale. I would look that the resource limited
devices that must be used to prepare meals to see scalability. In this case
the grill, the stove and the microwave. Scalability of the restaurant is a
function of the amount of resource limited devices versus the number of
process (i.e. chefs) that need to use those devices concurrently and the
amount of time they require access to those devices. By talking about chefs
as if they are the scalability limiting factor seems to bring us back to the
notion that the chef is a manager object that is shared. And again I come
back to the question, why?
You may now think that in a real restaurant, there are only so many chefs so
why not make it a shared service? Well in a real restaurant there are only
so many of any object, but this is not a consideration in our restaurant
model. In our "virtual" restaurant hiring a chef is as easy as:
Chef = new;
And of course chefs are of zero mass so there can be a whole lot in the
kitchen. Now assuming the Grill, Stove and Microwave map to physical
objects in our computing environment, then that is the limiting factor and
are therefore partitioned. Whenever communication has to go through a
single source, then scalability breaks down. I fear that too many people
make shared objects and create communication bottlenecks where they simply
don't exist. The only place your scalability bottlenecks should exist is in
the actual resource limited objects of your computing environment. Simply
said, if something isn't a resource limited object, then why is it shared?
If anyone is not clear how to architect an application independently of the
business model, then I would suggest looking at various framework products
and reading some technical architecture white papers to get a different, and
possibly enlightening, point of view.
Mark Perreira
Sage IT Partners.
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Nelson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 9:04 AM
To: Mark Perreira
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Polymorphism - retrieving type information from the
database
Mark,
First, I completely agree about the naming. I purposely used rather
euphamistic names for these "managers", since I see many convoluted names
for common things in various applications. But that is a topic for another
thread...
Simply because there is a "manager" of some type, does not imply that it is
chained to a particular duty. However, let's look at a real life case. In
a large restaurant, you would rarely see a chef chopping carrots or serving
dishes to customers. Those are the responsibilities of the sous-chef and
the waiter. So, we see that the chef does not really follow the food
around. Why not? Because it simply doesn't scale. When scalability isn't
a problem, (the restaurant isn't that popular, for example) the chef has
some lattitude to accept more responsibility, and might even get involved
with purchasing, etc.
In the real world, the more scalable something has to be, the narrower the
responsibilities are for each of the participating members.
Don
At 12:59 AM 6/17/98 -0700, Mark Perreira wrote:
Don,
One thing that always baffles me is when should an Object get the moniker
"Manager." This practice seems to tell me a couple of things about these
objects. In general when someone makes reference to a "Manager" objectthat
it is probably a service object and probably contains no or very little
attribution. The question is why? If I am developing an object model why
am I thinking about such implementation issues.
Surely if you are trying to model cooking an egg I would not see
"SustenancePreparationManager" in your model. Using a more common term I
would still be alarmed to see "CookManager" in your model. What does the
CookManager manage? Does it manage other cooks or eggs. Maybe it shouldbe
called an EggManager, but that doesn't make sense. How about just Cook.
There that seems like the real world. And this brings me to a problem in
the analogy. Conjuring up managers in a model can sometimes make you missa
container. For example, I would say that if we wanted to model the real
world, then eggs is a specialization of ingredient that is contained by
recipe that can be given to a cook to be prepared.
I may have many cooks (objects) that can prepare recipes and my application
architecture not the object model needs to deal with how to best let those
cooks utilize the grill, stove and microwave that sits on different
partitions on my server. My cooks can move around and when they do they
take their ability to know how to cook with them. In the real world Iwould
expect a cook to use the right appliance to prepare the recipe based on its
contents. I would not chain every cook to its appliance and them make me
responsible for giving the right cook the right recipe. This is what
managers can cause. They cause the consumer of cooks to know which cookcan
prepare what recipes based on where they are chained. This then makes me
know something about cooking. And if I don't know anything about cooking I
can only image what my egg would look like if I accidentally gave therecipe
to the cook stationed at the microwave.
Ok Ok, I have seen many architectures use facades to hide the fact that I
like to chain my cooks to their appliance. But what is that. I have gone
to restaurants and I don't know what a cook facade is. If I ask themanager
to present the cook facade manager employee I would probably be met by the
bouncer employee.
So what is the answer? Well for a start keep the application architecture
out of the model. The model should stand alone in describing the
interactions required to satisfy use cases. Second find an architecture
that describes a more responsibility driven design and how that design and
can map your business object behavior to a physical implementation with
appliances and cooking rules. And lastly, don't be so quick to chain your
cooks to their appliances. Give them some control over where they cook
their recipes, after all that is what they do.
Mark Perreira
Sage IT Partners.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Don Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 2:07 PM
To: Nick Willson
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Polymorphism - retrieving type information from the
database
This thread is switching context a bit, but I would add one thought tothe
idea of encapsulating behavior. One of the advantages to OO is that it
helps us model real world behavior. In the real world, I would not askan
invoice to stuff itself into an envelope and mail itself to its
customer; I
would not ask my vehicle to fuel itself or change its own oil; I wouldnot
tell an egg carton to ask one of its eggs to fry itself. Even if these
things were physically feasible, I could list a number of reasons why I
still wouldn't want to do them. That is why we haveVehicleRepairManagers
and SustenancePreparationManagers (aka, "Mechanics" and "Cooks").
Don
At 11:28 PM 6/15/98 -0700, Nick Willson wrote:
Tim,
You've had lots of good suggestions so I hope you won't mind an attempt
at another one. The consensus seems to be for your option (1) for the
Vehicle table, and Steve's example of a GenericConstraint (taking the
place of your Vehicle) is probably how most people would go about
answering your question. I don't have much to add to that, just wanted
to offer something about where the persistence mechanism lives and how
things look to clients that depend on it.
Suppose for a moment you think about the Vehicle classes' persistence as
being just one aspect of their behavior. In addition to persistence,
you might have to implement security, or locking for concurrent access,
or caching of vehicle objects to improve performance, and of course you
want to calculate the vehicle tax and probably do other things with
Vehicles too.
You can put the persistence aspect of Vehicles into a
PersistenceObjectManager, but then the others need somewhere too. If
you use a bunch of Managers (one for security, one for locking...) then
each class's behavior is scattered across these various Manager classes,
each of which has to know about many classes. Or if you use one Manager
class, it's going to know still more, plus you are forced to implement
all the behavior in (or at least via) that manager's partition.
An alternative would be to keep all the Vehicle classes' behavior
encapsulated together, so a client always makes requests to a Vehicle,
and the Vehicle delegates the implementation of requests to a chain of
handler objects that hang off the vehicle object (a handler for
security, another for persistence, and so on).
One of the nice things about this is, the handlers can be responsible
for going to another partition (if necessary), e.g. to perform
persistence operations, or for more business-specific operations like
tax calculations. And because the handlers are smart, you don't have to
put a lot of code into service objects, the SOs can stay pretty simple.
This isn't an approach you'll see in Express, so I hope of it's of some
interest.
General wrote:
Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain)
Encoding: quoted-printable--
Nick Willson
SCAFFOLDS Consultant,
Sage IT Partners, Inc.
(415) 392 7243 x 373
[email protected]
The Leaders in Internet Enabled Enterprise Computing
To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
Searchable thread archive <URL:<a href=
"http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/">http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/</a>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
============================================
Don Nelson
Regional Consulting Manager - Rocky Mountain Region
Forte Software, Inc.
Denver, CO
Phone: 303-265-7709
Corporate voice mail: 510-986-3810
aka: [email protected]
============================================
"When you deal with higher numbers, you need higher math." - Hobbes
To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
Searchable thread archive <URL:<a href=
"http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/">http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/</a>>
>>
>
To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
Searchable thread archive <URL:<a href=
"http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/">http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/</a>>
>
>
============================================
Don Nelson
Regional Consulting Manager - Rocky Mountain Region
Forte Software, Inc.
Denver, CO
Phone: 303-265-7709
Corporate voice mail: 510-986-3810
aka: [email protected]
============================================
"When you deal with higher numbers, you need higher math." - Hobbes
To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
Searchable thread archive <URL:<a href=
"http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/">http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/</a>>Don,
You are absolutely correct. But this is where I honestly think you are
missing the point. While the mail program sends the mail, my mail message
has an interface (i.e. send button) which can delegate that to the mail
program. This makes it nice and simple for me the consumer of the mail
program. It also means I can think of mailing by focusing on the interface
(i.e. the button). It would suck if every time I wanted to mail something I
had to identify the correct pop server to send it to (i.e the MailManager).
Mailing something is the collaboration of the setup information of the mail
program and my mail message. If I were to model this my mail object would
indeed have a send method that could delegate to the correct mail servers.
This is just simplicity of interface and it is a good practice in UI
development just as it is in business model development. A simpler
interface, I think we can all agree, provides for a better and quicker
understanding.
Mark Perreira
Sage IT Partners.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Don Nelson
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 9:22 AM
To: Nick Willson
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Polymorphism - retrieving type information from the
database
Nick,
It turns out that your message does not, indeed send itself. Your mailing
program does that.
Don
At 11:54 PM 6/17/98 -0700, Nick Willson wrote:
Hey Don,
In the real world, no, you can't tell an invoice to put itself into anenvelope
and mail itself. You have to know about stamps and post boxes and wherethey
are located. But isn't it nice that in software you don't have to followthe
real world very closely if you don't want to?
Above the top left hand corner of this message I'm typing right now, thereis a
send button which lets me tell the message to 'stuff itself into anenvelope
and mail itself'. Why wouldn't you want to do that?
Don Nelson wrote:
This thread is switching context a bit, but I would add one thought to
the
idea of encapsulating behavior. One of the advantages to OO is that it
helps us model real world behavior. In the real world, I would not askan
invoice to stuff itself into an envelope and mail itself to its customer;I
would not ask my vehicle to fuel itself or change its own oil; I wouldnot
tell an egg carton to ask one of its eggs to fry itself. Even if these
things were physically feasible, I could list a number of reasons why I
still wouldn't want to do them. That is why we haveVehicleRepairManagers
and SustenancePreparationManagers (aka, "Mechanics" and "Cooks").
Don
At 11:28 PM 6/15/98 -0700, Nick Willson wrote:
Tim,
You've had lots of good suggestions so I hope you won't mind an attempt
at another one. The consensus seems to be for your option (1) for the
Vehicle table, and Steve's example of a GenericConstraint (taking the
place of your Vehicle) is probably how most people would go about
answering your question. I don't have much to add to that, just wanted
to offer something about where the persistence mechanism lives and how
things look to clients that depend on it.
Suppose for a moment you think about the Vehicle classes' persistence as
being just one aspect of their behavior. In addition to persistence,
you might have to implement security, or locking for concurrent access,
or caching of vehicle objects to improve performance, and of course you
want to calculate the vehicle tax and probably do other things with
Vehicles too.
You can put the persistence aspect of Vehicles into a
PersistenceObjectManager, but then the others need somewhere too. If
you use a bunch of Managers (one for security, one for locking...) then
each class's behavior is scattered across these various Manager classes,
each of which has to know about many classes. Or if you use one Manager
class, it's going to know still more, plus you are forced to implement
all the behavior in (or at least via) that manager's partition.
An alternative would be to keep all the Vehicle classes' behavior
encapsulated together, so a client always makes requests to a Vehicle,
and the Vehicle delegates the implementation of requests to a chain of
handler objects that hang off the vehicle object (a handler for
security, another for persistence, and so on).
One of the nice things about this is, the handlers can be responsible
for going to another partition (if necessary), e.g. to perform
persistence operations, or for more business-specific operations like
tax calculations. And because the handlers are smart, you don't have to
put a lot of code into service objects, the SOs can stay pretty simple.
This isn't an approach you'll see in Express, so I hope of it's of some
interest.
General wrote:
Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain)
Encoding: quoted-printable--
Nick Willson
SCAFFOLDS Consultant,
Sage IT Partners, Inc.
(415) 392 7243 x 373
[email protected]
The Leaders in Internet Enabled Enterprise Computing
To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
Searchable thread archive <URL:<a href=
"http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/">http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/</a>>
>>>
>>>
>>
============================================
Don Nelson
Regional Consulting Manager - Rocky Mountain Region
Forte Software, Inc.
Denver, CO
Phone: 303-265-7709
Corporate voice mail: 510-986-3810
aka: [email protected]
============================================
"When you deal with higher numbers, you need higher math." - Hobbes--
Nick
To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
Searchable thread archive <URL:<a href="http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/">http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/</a>>
>
>
============================================
Don Nelson
Regional Consulting Manager - Rocky Mountain Region
Forte Software, Inc.
Denver, CO
Phone: 303-265-7709
Corporate voice mail: 510-986-3810
aka: [email protected]
============================================
"When you deal with higher numbers, you need higher math." - Hobbes
To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
Searchable thread archive <URL:<a href=
"http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/">http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/</a>>
To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
Searchable thread archive <URL:<a href=
"http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/">http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/</a>> -
Need help to access a web page using midlet to retrieve some informations
Hi everyone i'm trying to access a web page using midlet to retrieve some informations in text format, the web page is [http://daviddurand.info/D228/?villes|http://daviddurand.info/D228/?villes] for my project.
the problem is that i always get error 10049 in socket::open meaning no adresse could be found i tried IP adresse and still the same.
i managed to recreate the same web page to test it on local and the surprise that it works fine but when accessing it online i have this error.
i tried also to get the page i created on a webserver i own to try it saying that there might be security issues but the same error appears again. so help plz
here is my code :
package mobileapplication5;
import java.io.*;
import javax.microedition.io.*;
import javax.microedition.lcdui.*;
import javax.microedition.midlet.*;
public class GetMidlet extends MIDlet {
private Display display;
String url = "http://dayaati.com/villes/index.php?villes";
public GetMidlet() {
display = Display.getDisplay(this);
public void startApp() {
try {
getBirthdayFromNameUsingGet(url);
} catch (IOException e) {
System.out.println("IOException " + e);
e.printStackTrace();
public void pauseApp() { }
public void destroyApp(boolean unconditional) { }
public void getBirthdayFromNameUsingGet(String url) throws IOException {
HttpConnection httpConn = null;
InputStream is = null;
OutputStream os = null;
try {
httpConn = (HttpConnection)Connector.open(url);
httpConn.setRequestProperty("User-Agent", "Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1");
httpConn.setRequestProperty("Content-Language", "en-US" );
httpConn.setRequestProperty("Content-Type", "text/html; charset=iso-8859-1");
httpConn.setRequestProperty( "Connection", "keep-alive" );
httpConn.setRequestProperty("Content-Length","51200");
getConnectionInformation(httpConn);
int respCode = httpConn.getResponseCode();
if (respCode == httpConn.HTTP_OK) {
StringBuffer sb = new StringBuffer();
os = httpConn.openOutputStream();
is = httpConn.openDataInputStream();
int chr;
while ((chr = is.read()) != -1)
sb.append((char) chr);
// Web Server just returns the birthday in mm/dd/yy format.
System.out.println(sb.toString());
else {
System.out.println("Error in opening HTTP Connection. Error#" + respCode);
} finally {
if(is!= null)
is.close();
if(os != null)
os.close();
if(httpConn != null)
httpConn.close();
void getConnectionInformation(HttpConnection hc) {
System.out.println("Request Method for this connection is " + hc.getRequestMethod());
System.out.println("URL in this connection is " + hc.getURL());
System.out.println("Protocol for this connection is " + hc.getProtocol());
System.out.println("This object is connected to " + hc.getHost() + " host");
System.out.println("HTTP Port in use is " + hc.getPort());
System.out.println("Query parameter in this request are " + hc.getQuery());
**Heeeeeeelp Please**[http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/trouble/TSG-VM/html/crashes.html]
SIGSEGV (0xb)Most common cause of that is JNI code used directly or indirectly through a 3rd party library.
64-Bit Server VM (11.2-b01 mixed mode linux-amd64)Conversely that VM gets less traffic than others so you might have hit a bug in it. -
Bought a new 4s and need to transfer photos from iCloud to new device. iCloud is giving me an old @me address. I do not have the email or pw for the iCloud account. How do I retrieve this information? Thanks.
If you need to change the iCloud ID on your new phone you have to go to Settings>iCloud, tap Delete Account, provide the password for the old ID when prompted to turn off Find My iPhone, then sign back in with the ID you wish to use. If you don't know the password for your old ID, or if it isn't accepted, go to https://appleid.apple.com, click Manage my Apple ID and sign in with your current iCloud ID. Click edit next to the primary email account, change it back to your old email address and save the change. Then edit the name of the account to change it back to your old email address. You can now use your current password to turn off Find My iPhone on your device, even though it prompts you for the password for your old account ID. Then save any photo stream photos that you wish to keep to your camera roll. When finished go to Settings>iCloud, tap Delete Account and choose Delete from My iDevice when prompted (your iCloud data will still be in iCloud). Next, go back to https://appleid.apple.com and change your primary email address and iCloud ID name back to the way it was. Now you can go to Settings>iCloud and sign in with your current iCloud ID and password.
-
Explorer error "Failed to retrieve the Information Spaces list." from HANA
I am getting this dumb error "Failed to retrieve the Information Spaces list. // Request timed out" in Explorer's "Manage Spaces" area every time I click on the analytic view listed under my HANA sources of the Explorer. So, my HANA source is visible, and analytic views are visible in Explorer as well, but I cannot get any Information Space created because of the error, and I could not find the error and its causes in Explorer docs.
I already
- upgraded HANA db to Rev 18 (for some reasons I cannot u[grade this system to SPS3 yet) and BIP and Explorer 4.0 are on the latest Patch 8 of SP2.
- configured connection using IDT defined connection,
- restarted servers in CMS already 100s of times.
There is enough free space on the BO server's drive: 33GB. BO is a single server based on Win2008 R2 SP1 with 40GB RAM.
Any ideas what else I can do to get rid of this issue? It is a test server, so I cannot open customer msg to SAP Support.
Thanks,
-VitaliyTry increasing the timeout under
..\SAP BusinessObjects\Tomcat6\webapps\explorer\WEB-INF\classes\ default.settings.properties
from
request.timeout=60
to
request.timeout=600 -
Importance of Bounce management functionality in SAP CRM
Hi All,
I want to discuss few interesting issues which I have come a cross while doing a setting for bounce management functionality in SAP CRM 7.0
Before sharing my experience I want to discuss some term related to Bounce email than will discuss about types of bounce emails and cause of the bounce email.The setting of bounce functionality is describing in below link .
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_crm700_ehp01/helpdata/en/46/3f509215835fa7e10000000a1553f7/content.htm
In general when a website visitor sigh up they receive email from the company site, the information the site collected saved in the database but It commonly happen some of your email will be undeliever. In marketing term we say it as 'Bounce'. this is the same way happen as when a person give a bank cheque to bank and don't have sufficient money to his/her account the bank people say the cheque got bounce ..
As we are aware emails are bounce for variety of reason such as.
- In case the recipient email address is invalid.
- recipient email address is inactive or closed
- recipient mailbox is full or mail server have some technical issue etc
In general all these bounces emails categorize in two category.
Hard bounce- When email address is not active. example wrong email address, email address de-activated, deleted,or closed
Soft bounce- recipient mailbox is full, mail server have some technical issue, Out_of_office is setup .
Now finally we come to know about the cause of bounce email and types. Now the question arises why this is so important when we have bounce management functionality active in sap crm marketing ? as described in above url.
suppose that there is a campaigning happening for an product where 3000 person visited it. Now incase 2000 visitors shown interest so have qualified as prospect bases on the information they have provided such as name, address, salary or employment detail.
After successfully execution of campaign now senior executives create a mailing list for all the prospects in the target group of campaign and sends email to all the users.Now if I say to how many customers really company have reached reached after campaign execution answer will be we can not have the correct fact and figure as there could be some bounce happened.
Now incase bounce management setting is configure in your CRM system than system will receive inbound e-mails for each bounce.Suppose we have received one thousand bounce emails than we would say actual customer contacted is 1000. this is the correct fact and figure and very much useful for marketing people.
After than executive could remove email address which were hard bounced and for soft bounce they can use some other channel to contact like telephone calls etc to reach them.
The correct facts and figures are very much important for marketing strategy and planning and also to know success level of each campaign. Assume a scnario where in day a company launches more than 5 campaign. I feel the importace is transparent now.
I hope you would find some interest in above blog.
Thanks
premHI, Sreedhar
Check this thread:
Re: New search help on CRMD_ORDER locator
Denis. -
Ive somehow managed to delete a complete user profile. Is it possible to retrieve the information?
Try this:
iTunes: Finding lost media and downloads
Also go to iTunes>Preferences>Advanced and see if the it posint to where your music is located. -
OSB: Retrieve MIME Data when MTOM is enabled
Hi,
I'm aware that when a proxy service MTOM enabled, attachments variable (storing MIME data) is null.
Is there other way to access/retrieve MIME data?
For eg. Content-Disposition, Content-Type.
Thanks in advance.
Reference:
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23943_01/admin.1111/e15867/context.htm#autoId5Hi,
Can anyone help? Perhaps I should rephrase my question.
What is the reason for this statement when MTOM is enabled:
The $attachments message context variable, in contrast, does not contain any information (is null).
Thanks!
Reference: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23943_01/admin.1111/e15867/context.htm#autoId14 -
ArgumentError: Items must support IManaged. See [Managed] for more information: object: "profile1"
Hi
I am trying to retrieve data from my database as an object
that I have created using JDBC. However I get the following error:
ArgumentError: Items must support IManaged. See [Managed] for
more information: object: "profile1"
at mx.data::ConcreteDataService/
http://www.adobe.com/2006/flex/mx/internal::normalize()[C:\depot\flex\branches\enterprise_ bridgeman\frameworks\mx\data\ConcreteDataService.as:2595
at mx.data::DataList/
http://www.adobe.com/2006/flex/mx/internal::processSequence()[C:\depot\flex\branches\enter prise_bridgeman\frameworks\mx\data\DataList.as:1597
at mx.data::DataList/
http://www.adobe.com/2006/flex/mx/internal::processSequenceResult()[C:\depot\flex\branches \enterprise_bridgeman\frameworks\mx\data\DataList.as:1788
at
DataListRequestResponder/result()[C:\depot\flex\branches\enterprise_bridgeman\frameworks\ mx\data\ConcreteDataService.as:5857]
at
mx.rpc::AsyncRequest/acknowledge()[E:\dev\3.0.x\frameworks\projects\rpc\src\mx\rpc\AsyncR equest.as:74]
at
NetConnectionMessageResponder/resultHandler()[E:\dev\3.0.x\frameworks\projects\rpc\src\mx \messaging\channels\NetConnectionChannel.as:469]
at
mx.messaging::MessageResponder/result()[E:\dev\3.0.x\frameworks\projects\rpc\src\mx\messa ging\MessageResponder.as:199]
ThanksThis problem arises if you do not have the matching AS file
for the java file you are trying to access. -
Polymorphism - retrieving type information from thedatabase
Daniel,
Yes I have always thought, that modeling the real world can lead to objects
that are unnecessary or overly complex relationships that do exist in the
real world but may not have to in a computing environment. Many times,
business models could be greatly simplified if the modelers factored out
interfaces from objects so that these interfaces could be applied based on
need of behavior without having to always construct class hierarchies in a
particular behavioral structure. Or they could benefit greatly by applying
design patterns to enhance delegation. But the problem with both of these
pieces of advice is that they assume the modeler is well versed and
understands how to apply these concepts. Many application developments I
come across are being done by a group of people that have never used an OO
tool before. With an audience such as this, how are they supposed to get
started?
Usually they will look and analyze the real-world. This will give them a
starting point in which to conduct dialog for building an object model. I
think I do know how these advanced strategies I described above are applied,
yet I always ask a customer to explain the real-world example of something
before I attempt at understanding their model and make any attempts at
advising changes. This assures that I and they have a better physical
understanding of an interaction before we attempt to describe an abstract
model of the same interaction.
As far as sharing of business objects, it is quite routine for a company to
have one group of IT application developers create a subsystem with business
objects that must be SHARED by another group of IT application developers.
The different subsystems have points of interconnect. These points can be
at the architectural level or business object level. So I don't think this
situation is as rare as you state. Further, I can see that the marketplace
is pushing more for run-time object sharing and collaboration so that this
will be the norm and not the exception.
I agree on the importance of custom routing for performance. I think it is
complex enough that I would stop short of telling people to spend time
building such a scheme. I would hate to see an application miss delivery
because the developers got too entangled in technical problems like custom
routing. But I do happen to know of a Framework product that has this as
one of its features. :)
I agree 100% with you the complexity of Forte is the marrying of object and
distributed technologies. I don't agree that frameworks cannot provide the
answer. I look at a framework as more than just a technical solution. We
use our framework to help divide the responsibilities between Business
Analyst, GUI Architect, Back-end Architect, GUI Developers and Back-End
developers. At many customers, some people play all of these roles. At
some customers, a developer may play just the GUI Developer role until he
can come up to speed on how to build simple views that are used to build
more complex windows. In this way, a large problem can be broken down into
a set of much smaller problems to help the architects manage work load and
education of the team. Without a framework that supports this sort of
approach, the architects of the application would have to delay development
until boundaries could be put in place. This can be very time consuming and
cause application rewrites if the boundaries were guessed wrong. In the
Forte marketplace today, there are products to help people set up those
architectural boundaries. It simply is more cost effective to buy one of
these solutions then it is to have your team spend time on this and add risk
to your project. In other words, architecture for a Forte development can
be bought much more cheaply than it can be created.
Mark Perreira
Sage IT Partners.
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Nguyen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 1998 7:35 AM
To: Mark Perreira
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Polymorphism - retrieving type information from the
database
Mark,
The battle question was only a little provocation : it seems that Forte
people and yours don't have exactly the same point of view about the way
that distribution should be made.
The problem I see on modeling the real world is that the hypothesis
seems to
be wrong : the world will never be as static as the modeling in my point
of
view. The fact is that when you try to model real world you will add
many
concepts you don't really need for the application. Those concepts may
change
with time. In my own experience I have seen that if you don't have a
real
concrete objective, it is very easy to imagine many things which won't
be
usefull when the real aim will come. That's why I think that in a
pragmatic
point of view it is better (in a cost view that's right) to focus on a
good
modeling of the system you have to build. For instance, in an exotic
currencies options system, you can imagine modeling for the Front a
system
without the product concepts, but only rules, because it is the real
world.
But when you come to the Back Office, you realize that all is managed
through
product concept. Then you come back to the Front modeling and break a
lot
of work. In the real world, the product concept does not exist, that's
right.
But it is a way to manage operations.
We all speak about Business Objects (and rules) share and re-use. I
imagine
that it is only applicable on some specific domains where the concepts
are
already shared as Insurance, Banking or Risk management on shares. This
is
because we have common rules for all companies : some financial markets
are
organized with public rules and constraints for instance. So the
difference
between companies is only on the service and not really in the business
foundations. But, in most cases, the differences between competitors are
on their business, their know how.
I have some difficulties to imagine companies with specific know how
sharing
it with competitors! So I imagine that shared business objects will be
very poor.
The problem may be that Business components will be provided by editors
like
Microsoft or may be Forte (with Express evolutions may be). But, the
business of their clients is not in the job of those providers : they
may
have a wrong view of the business of their customers, because they don't
have their know how.
On routage capabilities of manager, I agree on the technical point of
view.
This should be inherited from a service definition from Forte or a
technical
component. But, I have seen (on financial markets) that you also need
business
routage for scalability and performance. This is unfortunatly not in
Forte and
may be not really in technical frameworks on the market. Just an example
You have a financial market which is managed on several physical sites
(let's
take 2 sites). When everything is ok, you have one instance of a service
on each
site, first one managing some kind of instances (futures for instance)
and the
second one managing other kinds of instances (options for instance). But
when the
first site falls, you need (at run-time and if possible without stopping
the market)
to reconfigure the second service to manage all the instances (futures
and options).
So this is linked to business really. That's right, I base the
reflection on a very
specific (and experienced) case where the cost of the IT system is very
low compared
to the money exchanged on the system : you can imagine very specific
solutions.
The main problem I see today is that people have real difficulties to
integrate
object and distribution concepts and that Forte is to hard for Cobol or
Visual
Basic developpers. So those kinds of product should be more encapsulated
and
packaged on a push button way. The solution of making frameworks may be
very
short term solution, because of the cost and limitations about coverage
of the
clients specific objectives. Those problems come from Client/server
architectures
and needs, in my opinion, and NOT specifically from Forte or other
competitors.
Daniel Nguyen
Freelance Forte Consultant
Mark Perreira wrote:
Daniel,
I hope not. For SCAFFOLDS works only because of Forte and when I make
someone a happy SCAFFOLDS customer then they are also a happy Forte
customer. So if we sell more SCAFFOLDS, Forte sells moreForte. If there
is a battle between us, I certainly don't understand why,because we are on
the same team with the same goal.
I have always found customer have a different role than you have pointed
out. While I agree with the objectives, I have found most clients do
actually try to model the real world. They do it because it is an easy
starting point. They also do it because most OO books on the subject of
modeling point people in that direction. So they do indeedplay the role of
God with the business object model. But I have found thesesame customers
unwilling to play the role of God with the architecture. Theyare either
new to Forte and distributed object systems or they feelcomfortable with
the architecture to be documented and supported beyond thetenure of a set
of consultants that could come in and build such a system. In this case
they buy a pre-defined and built architecture.
I also agree that a Forte Service Object in and of itself can be
problematic. But I depart where you say a manager can dothings like custom
routing. This is exactly why I think Forte can be too difficult for too
many people. Any custom routing scheme is not to be takenlightly in its
impact of the overall performance and makeup of a running system. The
manager pattern does not describe a run-time environment withthe checks and
balances needed to make sure a custom router can perform. I have talked
with you Daniel and have complete faith in your ability todevelop such a
system. I would be very concerned in having just anyone try toimplement
custom routing in manager objects without a run-time environment that
simplifies and protects the participants from the mountain of technical
problems that would follow.
Mark Perreira
Sage IT Partners.
To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
Searchable thread archive <URL:http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/> -
RE: Polymorphism - retrieving type information from thedatabase
I would disagree with your statement that either the object or data model
must be wrong. The problem is more fundamental-trying to store objects in a
relational database. The object and relational paradigms can be made to
work together, but usually only by compromising tenets of one or the other
(or both). Now granted, there are many ways of making them work
together-and some are definitely better than others.
CJ
Chris Johnson
612-594-2535 (direct)
612-510-4077 (pager)
-----Original Message-----
From: Rottier, Pascal [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 15, 1998 8:17 AM
To: Forte Users Mailing list
Subject: RE: Polymorphism - retrieving type information from
the database
> ----------
> From: Rottier, Pascal[SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 1998 8:17:16 AM
> To: Forte Users Mailing list
> Subject: RE: Polymorphism - retrieving type information from
the database
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>
This issue has already passed this mailing list a couple of
times in the past. To put it in more general terms, you have
different classes which you store in the same DB table.
This is always tricky. Nine out of ten times, this means
either your Object model or your DataBase model is wrong.
To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
Searchable thread archive <URL:http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/>This issue has already passed this mailing list a couple of
times in the past. To put it in more general terms, you have
different classes which you store in the same DB table.
This is always tricky. Nine out of ten times, this means
either your Object model or your DataBase model is wrong.
If you can differentiate between different classes, this
means you're dealing with different entities, which should
be stored in different tables. What if one class has an
attribute the other one doesn't. This would mean you have
to add a column to the database which is filled it the row
represends one class and is NULL if the row represends
another class. This is not good database practice!
Differentiating between different classes by means of
a "type" attribute is the classic procedural approach.
The OO approach would be to create subclasses. How-
ever, a relational database doesn't support subclasses.
The best way, would be to have a different table for
each subclass. If this gives you problems with norma-
lizing your database, you can create a table with all
the attributes generic to vehicle, and a table for each
subclass with only the attributes relevant to this sub-
class and a foreign key relation to the main table. If all
of this is not feasable, you're left with the need to find
some mechanism to identify what kind of class a cer-
tain row represends and then instantiate this class. The
tree solutions you suggested all work. It doesn't really
matter which one you chose, they're all equally dirty.
Hope this helps,
Pascal.
-----Original Message-----
From: General [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday 15 June 1998 12:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: Polymorphism - retrieving type information from the
database
Suppose I have a class structure containing one base class with
several specialisations. Say, "Vehicle", with specialisations of
"Car", "Van" and "Truck". All vehicles are persisted in the database,
in a rolled-up table, and I want a generic retrieval mechanism, which
fetches a vehicle based on the license plate number. (It will probably
be a service object, which I will call a Persistent Object Manager).
I wish to retrieve ALL vehicles, and calculate the road tax for each.
However, cars, vans and trucks are all subject to different tax rules,
and require a different method to calculate their road tax. To put it
another way, there is a polymorphic method 'CalculateRoadTax' on the
"Vehicle" class.
Q: As each vehicle is extracted from the database, how does the rest
of the Forte application know what type of vehicle it is?
I am sure that others must have solved this problem before, but it is
new to us. We have come up with the following solutions:
(1) Add a "sub-type" column to the "Vehicle" table. Use the type
information to instantiate a Forte object of the correct type
(2) Maintain a completely separate table linking the vehicle licence
plate to its sub-type.
(3) Deduce the type of the object from the pattern of null columns in
the row.
I think (1) is the best solution, but I'm interested to know what the
experts say!
Incidentally, if Express can help or hinder in this situation, I would
be interested in that as well.
regards,
Tim Kimber
EDS (UK)
To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
Searchable thread archive <URL:http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/> -
Hello,
I am quite new in this buisness, maybe it is a really easy question:
I developed a rule for the bounce management. I need the "Bounce: Status (Default 5)/ELM-Aktualis" for permanent errors.
Is there a possiblity to test the system or to debugg why I don´t get the status?
I hope you can help me.
thanks a lot in advance
cu
patHi Pat,
we had a quite similar problem, we solved it as follows:
Copy the class CL_CRM_ERMS_AH_UPDATE_MKT_OUT5 and add a closed loop at the beginning of the class.
Call this class in the Service AH_BCE_UPD_MKT5 in customizing.
If your rule evaluates true, the workflow should jump into this endless loop and you can go into debug mode in Tx sm50.
Unfortunately debugging didnt help us too much, because obviously the factgathering serivce isnt working probably.
So please let me know if you get any more Information!
Kind regards
Christian -
INST-07294 could not retrieve SSO information in OFM11g FRD installation
Hi!
I have an error while trying to install forms,reports 11g:
INST-07294: Could not retrieve SSO information with the given credentials.
Verify the credentials. Make sure that hostname, port and password are correct
ldapbind cn=orcladmin to OID 11g successfull.
SSO rcu executed after ofm rcu.
What I should to check?
ThanksHi, Rodolfo!
Thansk for replay!
"The installer needed for the 10g SSO part is available in the same 11g download page" - I think you are wrong.
On the page that you are mentioned there are only schema creation assistant - SSO Metadata Repository Creation Assistant (10.1.4.3.0)
But here http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E12839_01/install.1111/e12003/claqi.htm they say that I need SSO installed:
Install Oracle Single Sign-On 10g (10.1.4.3) on your system in a different Oracle Home location than your Oracle Internet Directory installation.
Why SSO is mandatory and not optional?
So, if I quite right, to get a Portal/Forms/Reports/Discoverer 11g I have to do the following:
1.install db11g
2.install sso mrca
3.run sso mrca with load option
4.run rcu for creating ofm11g schemas
5.install OID11g
6.run sso mrca with register option in OID
7.install Identity Management 10g only with SSO and DAS services from here http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/ias/htdocs/101401.html
8.and only then run pfrd installation
Am I right? -
Bounce Management in SAP CRM 2007
Hi Experts,
we have SAP CRM 2007 and I have a few questions about Bounce Management.
It is a very simple scenario, so it´s fine if only hard bounces for incoming EMails are handled.
1) Do you need ERMS for that simple form of Bounce Mgt?
2) Is the Usage of Inetraction Center required? (We do not want to)
3) Is it possible/recommended to create Activities out of incoming bounces?
4) Can you segment on Bounces, not only within the Campaign Automation?
5) What ist the effort/set up to use Bounce Mgt in that simple scenario about?
Thanks a lot
FlorianYes, I was mentioning SAP Note 897730. The major pre-requisite mentioned there is Event linkage settings through SWETYPV transaction and in your case you just need to do the Rule Modeler settings. If you are using DEFAULT policy you do not need to do anything in Service Manager Profile.
The note pre-requisites mentioned are
The required services and service manager profiles for using the E-Mail Response Management System (ERMS) are defined: All entries necessary for bounce management are delivered in the default Customizing. As I mentioned before Service Manager Profile: Bounce is already defined and you are going to use that profile. The required service in your case would be "Bounce Data Update" or one of the 5 standard service mentioned in this note. These are already defined and taken care of in standard configurations. Therefore, you do not need to do anything over there.
Please do the above two settings and if you have any issues please come back to me. I am sure you won't have any issues with the requirements that you mentioned. I just took one hour to set up hard bounce scenario. Only if you are planning to use services that are not standard it becomes slightly tricky. In our case major issue was that there was an error in the standard workflow. I did not know much about Workflow bindings etc. before, but then I had to dig deep into this and it gave me an opportunity to learn workflows. This was the good thing that came out of all this.
Regards,
Deepak
Please note you will have to do the Event Linkage settings in SWETYPV transaction.
Edited by: Deepak Ahuja on Jun 5, 2008 9:15 AM -
I set up Firefox sync from my old computer. This has had its hard drive replaced and been sold. I now want to retrieve the information and get my bookmarks on my new computer. I can't see any way to do this!
Help pleaseTo build on the second option provided by The Edmeister make sure that you have your Sync Key, if this is not the case Firefox Sync will not help you (data is encrypted with that Key).
Finally, if the last sync happened long time ago, it may be the case that your data is not on the servers anymore. Firefox Syn wasn't designed as a back up service.
Maybe you are looking for
-
How do i get all music back on iphone after update to iOS 6
I have just completed update to iOS6 and i had to restore the phone so on completion it has wiped all music on iphone. So does anyone know how to get all music from computer to iphone again! Many many thanks in advance!!
-
Left speaker drops out randomly in iTunes 7
First problem I have had with iTunes. After installing v7 my left speaker randomly drops out. Stopping/starting the song again or going to a new song clears it up... but it randomly happens over and over. Any ideas? Thanks.
-
3gs syncing problem after itunes update to itunes 7
When syncing my 3gs with updated itunes7, will not complete sync because"session could not be started" and "connection could not be established". Ran diagnostic and all seemed fine.
-
Nslookup: DNS request timed out. time out was 2 seconds. (When the primary DNS is down)
Hi All, I have set up 2 Windows Server 2012 domain controllers (DCA & DCB). DCA points at DCB as the primary DNS, and itself as the alternate DNS. DCB points at DCA as the primary DNS, and itself as the alternate DNS. When both DCs are running and if
-
File.openWithDefaultApplication sometimes not working on XP
Hi there, We have encountered a problem with our AIR2 app (compiled to a native.exe installer) and openWithDefaultApplication on XP. We are using it to open the downloaded update.exe for our application. Sometimes on windows XP the call to openWithDe