BPM error "Permanent error in BPE inbound processing " for 1.3 MB file ?

Hi
I have scenario that using ccBPM (file -
> IDOC). this scenario is working fine for small file but it will error stuck at SMQ2 Queue for big file around 1.3 MB.
I think 1.3 MB file is no that big file, why ccBPM cannot handle this transaction, Please advise
Thank you and Best Regards
Fernand

Hi Fernad,
Check the detail error in workflow engine.
There is a possibility that error is in data and hence mapping step must be throwing the error.
-Supriya.

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i am having a problem in my scenario which is involving BPM.
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