Bridge in Photoshop Elements 6

I have just brought a Canon 450d and discovered that I could not open the raw files with CS2 and that there was no available plug in. So I uninstalled CS2 and installed Photoshop Elements 6 and Lighthouse. I downloaded the new Raw Plug In for the camera and placed it in two places.
HD/Applications/Adobe Photoshop/Plugin/File Format/Camera Raw Plug In
and
Library/Applications/Adobe/ Plug in /CS3 /File Formats/Camera Raw Plug In
I can see the images in Lightroom I can open the images in Adobe Photoshop Elements 6 but I cannot open them in Bridge.
Please can anyone help?

You either have to upgrade to CS3 for the ACR version that supports your camera, switch to Lightroom (that has the same ACR engine as CS3 or use the DNG route, download the (free) latest DNG converter and convert your raw files to dng, this can be opened in the ACR version CS2 uses. However you will miss some great features in ACR CS2 like fill light and recovery as well as clarity and vibrance that are in the CS3 edition.

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I have an iMAC with iLife 08.
I take photos in RAW format with a Nikon camera.
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After uploading photos to iPhoto, export them as jpg to a new folder on the desktop, external HD or wherever. I open Photoshop Elements, edit the exported photo.
Then I'm stuck with my edits outside of iPhoto, unless I then import them back into iPhoto. It works, but it's cumbersome.
Today I thought I'd try a different route. I opened Photoshop Elements, and tried to use Bridge to browse photos. I can find the iPhoto library easy enough, but if I click on it, it opens iPhoto, and I'm stuck - can't open the photos in Photoshop.
I am hoping that if I do it correctly, I can save my edits directly back into iPhoto.
Any ideas?

Using Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements) as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
If you want to use both iPhoto's editing mode and PS without having to go back and forth to the Preference pane, once you've selected PS as your editor of choice, reset the Preferences back to "Open in main window". That will let you either edit in iPhoto (double click on the thumbnail) or in PS (Control-click on the thumbnail and seledt "Edit in external editor" in the Contextual menu). This way you get the best of both worlds
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 08 libraries and Leopard. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

How can I integrate metadata and keywords in Lightroom with those in Photoshop, Bridge, and Photoshop Elements? In other words, is there a way to retrieve common metadata templates from all modules? Thanks!

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Thanks! That's helpful.
What I mean by "common metadata", is a unified, updated, most current metadata, which I could update in each program. That is without overwriting the metadata, but appending new keywords to the metadata I created in the previous program.
I use Bridge, then Lightroom and finally Photoshop. That's the regular workflow: Bridge for preliminary sorting and and adding some keywords; Lightroom for organizing and picking the best images; finally, Photoshop for processing. I got Photoshop Elements on trial. Doesn't work for my purposes.
I need to share and update the metadata / keywords when I go from one program into another. Can't retrieve metadata I set up in Bridge into Lightroom. Same happens with Photoshop, where I can't retrieve keywords I add in Lightroom. It's tedious to write up the keywords again.
Thanks for your efforts!

Bridge or Photoshop Elements?

Greetings,
I just bought Dreamweaver CS4. I've already been using Photoshop Elements 6 to manage my photos, so is there any benefit to using Bridge, in addition to Photoshop Elements?
Thanks,
Shane.

Bridge is a assets manager for the Creative Suite and Creative Cloud which includes Photoshop,but not Photoshop Elements. It's bundled with CS applications,but with CC, it's a separate download.
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Bridge Vs. Photoshop Elements 5.0 Organizer

I posted something similar in the PSE forum without any feedback.
I've used PSE for a while through many versions and have many pictures in the catalog. However I really mostly use the version sets and stacks. A few notes here and there but nothing extensive regarding grouping photos, locations, etc.
I am now moving to CS3 and of course Bridge. I have demo'd it and also read what I can regarding this issue. I understand that importing catalogs into Bridge can be problematic. Although the problems seem less with PSE5??
Anyway, the catalog database is always finicky for me. I always back up the relevant folders because sometime over a span of 3 to 4 months during heavy editing sessions, with it open, it will get confused, corrupted, whatever. And I need to bring back the catalog folders. (Not a restore of all the pix, just the database folders).
It looks like the Bridge database is more robust. And I *know* it is not meant to be a replacement for the PSE organizer. I guess the question is, if I only use the stacks, version sets, and a few notes, for my use, could it be a replacement for my needs???
I just don't like that feeling of not being confident in the catalog database. I know I can send pictures from the PSE catalog to either PSE or Bridge with a few keyboard shortcuts. Although I think I read that if I change the filename or something in CS3 that the PSE catalog will not "remember it" in the version set. They could have integrated these better??? OR at least allowed a more bulletproof import feature.
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BJBBJB

Maureen,
I feel your pain! :)
Yes I have seen that option of writing info to the image metadata. However I don't think it allows you to maintain version stacks and other stacks. Those are also huge to me. I have a similar number of images in a catalog.
One thing you need to be aware of is that when you tell PSE to write that metadata to the image, it changes the system file date (last modified date) of that image. That is a huge negative to me. Although I understand you can still see the image "picture taken date" in the metadata, I use backup software that keys off of the system file date to determine what images need to be synced. I guess I could do it in one big migration....but then, I am not sure I am so confident or happy about having PSE writing data to 1,000's of my original images!!! I mean that catalog is known to get corrupted once in a while! I also like seeing the system file date in windows explorer when browsing images outside of the organizer and knowing those are the dates I put them on my system. If I write all of the tags, all the "last modified" dates will be the date the tags are written.
I really find it very perplexing that does not provide a bullet-proof upgrade path from the PSE organizer to Lightroom and/or Bridge.
How silly is it to pay the prices required to obtain CS3 or CS4, and perhaps Lightroom, and then having to go get the current version of PSE just to maintain a catalog!!
Hopefully a patch or utility will be forthcoming to allow a migration that works. The thought of having to re-stack and re-edit notes for all of my images is not even in the realm of possibility....
BJBBJB

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Hello, did and uninstall and reinstall of 6 as I was having it crash upon closing - now instead of opening up PS6 from bridge, bridge opens preview. Now if I go from PS6 to bridge things work as they should - I have done a reinstall/repair of PS6. Help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, m2

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Lightroom versus PhotoShop Elements Organizer and Bridge

This is directed to the Adobe Developer Team
I hope someone of the Developer team is reading this!!
For my understanding the three products out of one house (PhotoShop Elements Organizer, Bridge and Lightroom) doing about the same, should ...
work the same (same idea, same behaviour, organizing by path/subfolders instead of cataloges etc.)
maintain the same database and files (LR should recognize the collections from BR and Vice Versa, use the same cache files etc.) and should
be compatible to each other (e.g. Tags, Collections etc)
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to eliminate Organizer and integrate the good functions into BRIDGE (e.g. albums, upload to flickr, webpage generation etc)
give BRIDGE as the free of charge picture organizer to PS Elements and to PS CS
change LIGHTROOM into an payable upgrade of BRIDGE with enhanced functionality of the free of charge BRIDGE, (which can work as a stand-alone software as it does today
better integration of PSE, PS CS into Bridge/Lightroom (e.g. Panaorama function opens only PS CS but the version of PSE works much better, so I want to choose in the menu of Bridge/Lightroom)
I am really struggling with the three of them.
Beside that I suggest to get rid of the Catalog idea of Lightroom with it's import/export and synchronization needs and instead use or at least integrate the idea of BRIDGE to get pictures structured and organized by path and subfolders, as this is anyhow how the way pictures are stored already for most of us... I asume. I doubt that anybody just throw all files into one big subdirectory and get the organized into cataloges. But please keep collections as they are helpful to quickly collect some pictures to commonly work on them. by drag & drop. The Catalogues of LR drives me crazy but LR have a lot of nice functions (e.g. Webupload interfaces to flickr and others, nice noice reduction, nice albums and webpage functions, etc.)
Thanks
Merry X-Mas and a Happy New Year
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PS: Please all of you comment your experience and opinion on this matter ... I am interested what you think about it.

Hi George,
Whereas Bridge and Photoshop Elements (and most non-LR users) base their organisation on the file / folder structure, Lightroom uses files / folders simply for storage - the catalog is used for organisation. This 'catalog based approach' provides far more flexibility, both in organisation, and in recording a complete, fully-reversible record of all edits made to each photograph.
To suggest that Adobe "get rid of the Catalog idea of Lightroom" and "get pictures structured and organized by path and subfolders" would remove almost ALL advantages Lightroom has over Bridge & PS Elements combined. To fully appreciate Lightroom, you need to appreciate that files and folders are not the only way to organise photos. Why not watch a few of the Adobe Lightroom Tutorial videos? This link below takes you to a video explaining about the Catalog;
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/george-jardine-on-lightroom/the-lightroom-catalog/
However, if you really want Adobe to hear your views, why not raise a Feature request with them, at this link below;
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
I'm sure if you call your feature request 'Remove Catalog from Lightroom, and organise by Folders instead', it'll get noticed, as will any forum posts of the same name...
Cheers,
Alan

Can't go from Bridge/Camera Raw to Photoshop Elements 8

I originally installed trial version of photoshop CS4 and photoshop elements 8. I decided I liked elements better so that is what I purchased. I did fresh install off of purchased disk. I can launch bridge from within PSE8, then camera raw from Bridge, but can't Open into PSE8 from bridge or camera raw. I can open camera raw but when I finish and click "open" the file always tries to open into Photoshop CS4 (for which the trial is now expired).
I have updated to camera raw 5.7 and followed the instructions on the adobe site. I can tell the camera raw plug in is running from the CS4 library   Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CS4\File Formats (deleted it there and it no longer worked) and not from Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-ins\Elements 8\File Formats.
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Is Adobe Bridge included in Photoshop or Photoshop Elements?

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Gene

Does Adobe Photoshop Elements include Adobe Bridge? Or is that a separate purchase?

Does Adobe Photoshop Elements include Adobe Bridge? Or is that a separate purchase?

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