Calculation of Tax Depreciation - India

Hi,
We are following the New GL Accounting setup to our US based client in India.
My Leading Ledger (US) is Jan u2013 Dec and Non-leading Ledger (India) is April u2013 March.
We also created different Fiscal Year variants (Year Dependent) as S1 and IN for both the Co codes.
I have defined and activated Non-leading ledger for India Company code.
All the transactions were posting correctly as per Leading and Non-leading ledgers except Tax Depreciation in Fixed Assets.
I was able to post correct depreciation for India Company Act Depreciation area with a stated percentage. But the Tax depreciation area calculation is incorrect.
Required Depreciation Calculation for Tax Depreciation Area as below:
For Acquires & Additions:
Rule1: If it is >=180 days (as per Non-leading ledger Fiscal year) the system should calculate depreciation as stated percentage. Eg: 10%
Rule2:
If it is <180 days (as per Non-leading ledger Fiscal year) the system should calculate depreciation of 50% on stated percentage. Eg: Stated percentage is 10%, then it should be 5%.
I already copied India standard setting IT & NL to my fiscal year variant in Calender assignments of Period controls. But when I tried to post the Tax Depreciation in the month of March as per Non-leading ledger, the system is calculating full Depreciation as per Rule1 instead of 50% of stated Percentage in Rule2.
Can any one of you kindly advice how to setup the Multi levels methods and Period controls for Tax Depreciation key in Indian Tax Depreciation area as per above requirement. I have been working on this since one week. Please help me.
Thanks for the help.
Regards,
JBC

I am not sure if this work.. but give it a try.
In your multi-level method line 1 put Acq yr = 9999, Year = 999, Per = 6, Percent = 50
line 2 put Acq yr = 9999, Year = 999, Per = 12, Percent = 10
Now what i dont understand from your question is that is this rule for the first acquisition year only?
If so, also try with Acq yr = 9999, Year = 1 (so only the first acq yr will get calculated based on the percentage).
Try this in your sandbox and let me know if it works or not!!

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Edited by: manucs on Dec 29, 2011 10:12 AM

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