Camera Profile Default in LR2--Problems

I downloaded the camera profile betas and Camera Raw 4.5. When working with a Nef, I set a beta camera profile in LR2. No problem. When finished I open another NEF--same thing. Reverts to 4.4 default. Is there no way to make that sticky?
Also, each time I open LR the default profile is Camera Raw 4.4, and I have to reset it. Nefs are all I am testing LR2 with, shot with a D300. How do I get a sticky profile. What am I missing?
Also, since I have Camera Raw 4.5 installed, shouldn't that default to 4.5 instead of 4.4? 4.3 is also on the list, but not 4.5. Why isn't 4.5 available? Have I done something wrong?

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> I downloaded the camera profile betas and Camera Raw 4.5. When working
> with a Nef, I set a beta camera profile in LR2. No problem. When
> finished I open another NEF--same thing. Reverts to 4.4 default. Is
> there no way to make that sticky?
>
> Also, each time I open LR the default profile is Camera Raw 4.4, and I
> have to reset it. Nefs are all I am testing LR2 with, shot with a
> D300. How do I get a sticky profile. What am I missing?
>
> Also, since I have Camera Raw 4.5 installed, shouldn't that default to
> 4.5 instead of 4.4? 4.3 is also on the list, but not 4.5. Why isn't
> 4.5 available? Have I done something wrong?
Try opening ARC with no photo, set the profile to what you want, and save
it as the default setting. I know I've left out the details, but the
general idea should work.
John Passaneau

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Steph_Kimball,
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> the recently released BETA CAMERA PROFILES which may be chosen in lieu of ARC
Assuming "ARC" is a typo for ARC, the beta camera profiles are used in ARC, inside Camera Raw,
not
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