Cenavt on Hold Account - Capital Goods 50% Credit

Hi Gurus,
As per PO , Basic Duty is 800.00 + 2% Cess - 16.00 + 1% Secc - 8.00, but when I Post the Excise Duty, 50% Duty is correctly posted in respective G/L Account as 40084 , but the balance 50% credit in Cenvat on Hold A/c is showing value as only 396.00 instead of 412.00 ( We are using ECC 6.0)
Can some body help me why Cenvat on Hold a/c shows wrong value.
Thanks in advance.
Rgds,
Vikas

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Dear sachin ,
As far as I see, there is no loss to the company,
1. you paid the vendor for the full excise amount
2. As a manufacturing unit you are liable to take 100% credit
3. IF you classify the material as capital goods as per your needs then take 50% now and 50% in next financial year
4. If Raw material take 100% credit
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