Changed out Quadro 4000 for GTX 770 - no change in performance

I had to reformat and reinstall Windows 7 and my CC apps last week, and I'd been planning on changing out my nVidia Quadro 4000 for a GTX 770, mainly for the boost in CUDA cores, figuring from all that I've read over the years that there should be a boost in render and export performance in Premiere Pro.
Today I did the swap out. Just prior to pulling the Quadro, I noted the render time for a timeline that I was working on. I deleted all previews and cleaned the media cache, and rendered the timeline. which took 1:12. I also exported to a 720P(matching my sequence size) H.264 YouTube profile with Max Quality and Max Depth set. That took 5:28.
I installed the PNY GTX 770 4GB ('Enthusiast Edition', I must add), and performed the same tests. The results? No difference. At all. With all factors remaining the same, I'd assumed that the increase in CUDA cores would have boosted performance some, actually a lot.
Have I been misreading all of the advice both here and elsewhere on CUDA performance?

Hi sebrame,
You probably would not notice much difference between the two GPUs because exporting is primarily a CPU intensive process. Please check out this blog post: http://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2011/02/cuda-mercury-playback-engine-and-adobe-premiere -pro.html
You may need to adjust your expectations.
Thanks,
Kevin

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http://store.apple.com/us/product/H3314LL/A
256 CUDA cores
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GPU accelerated professional applications DaVinci Resolve, Autodesk Smoke and Mathworks Matlab
# Experience native Quadro professional 3D graphics performance when running Windows based applications using Boot Camp
# Low-power, single-slot design allowing for up to two cards
Install CD with graphics and CUDA drivers
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-quadro-4000-us.html

Interesting; so as of today, the 5870 got a 'ADD NOW' and '1-click BUY' button. Just like the Quadro 4000, you can now actually order it.
Availability has not changed from 'currently unavailable' however....
Hatter, to my previous post; I realize that the Quadro will greatly accellerate certain tasks and apps; and for CUDA sensitive apps, it looks great.
But I am worried about this being also a day to day card; playing WOW or other things after work is done.
The raw SPEED of the Quadro is clearly much less than a GTX 285, or a 5770/5870:
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We bought an Nvidia Quadro 4000 for Mac for use RayTrace on After Effects CS6 (11.0.2) with our Mac Pro 5.1 on OS 10.6.8.
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We use the Nvidia driver 256.02.25f01 for Mac Os 10.6.8 and we made test on different Cuda driver (4.1.25, 4.2.10, 5.0.37 and 5.0.47).
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But when we restart the Mac and try to launch After Effects, AE doesn’t see GPU processor and ask to install Cuda driver 4.0 or later.
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Do you have a solution ?
Thanks.
And sorry for my English !

Hi All,
I'm having the exact same problem on 10.6.8 with a brand new Quadro 4000. My CUDA preferences are up to date, but After Effects CS6 is not seeing the card.
GPUSniffer gives me some really weird results, which I've included. Of particular note there is a repeated "just leaking" message, an "invalid drawable" and "Did not find any devices that support GPU computation."
Anyone have a fix for this? We just dropped a lot of money on this card so I could squeeze some more life out of this workstation (Mac Pro 4,1 dual quad 2.66 with 12GB RAM).
Last login: Fri May 31 10:20:47 on console
edit-e-room-20:~ johnlee$ /Applications/Adobe\ Premiere\ Pro\ CS6/Adobe\ Premiere\ Pro\ CS6.app/Contents/GPUSniffer.app/Contents/MacOS/GPUSniffer
--- OpenGL Info ---
2013-05-31 10:28:52.456 GPUSniffer[71708:903] *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x1046095a0 of class NSCFString autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
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Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
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GLSL Version: 1.20
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1.- Is the NVIDIA Quadro 4000 better than the one I have?
2.- Can it be installed on my iMac?
NVIDIA Quadro 4000 for Mac:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H3314LL/A/nvidia-quadro-4000-for-mac?fnode=53

Hi, likely it is, but it appears you do not have a MacPro, which is required... you can't change the video card in an iMac or Mac Mini.
Built for Mac Pro fromm your last link.

How do you setup HDMI audio with "Nvidia Quadro 4000 for Mac"?

So I just purchased a new Mac Pro:
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I have installed the card and all is working well as far as I can tell except for the HDMI audio. According to the specs on Nvidia for this card, it DOES support HDMI audio through the Display port. I have my HDMI cable plugged up and the video works great. However the audio option does not show up in the System Preferences. (Here is the page for the graphics card. Look under "specifications" at the bottom for the audio part. http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-quadro-4000-mac-us.html).
I did find a link for a kernel addition for HDMI audio but it stated "non-Apple Nvidia cards" and this one is specifically for Mac. Here is that link: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1499797. (I also plan on posing the same question there.)
The reason I want the HDMI to work is I'm using a TV as my monitor.
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Has anyone else run into this problem and found a solution?? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
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I went ahead and tried that extension that I found. It worked!
I guess Mac just didn't include the audio support in the driver that it includes. Below is were I found the instructions and download. It includes a shell script that installs the kernal from the Terminal prompt. The instructions were clear and installed with out a hitch. There were also instructions to remove it if there were issues.
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Will Nvidia update the driver for quadro 4000 for mac? When?

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Here the links to the latest driver:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-cuda-5.5.28-driver.html
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Hey Im running a quadro 4000 on my mac pro and I'm having issues in my bootcamp partition running windows 7, were it won't wake up from sleep or screens won't turn on at all, some issues in general with it booting up properly and sometimes screens go black, but computer is still running just black screens... any ideas... from what i see people have been running this with and since the latest drivers people seem to be happy... just can't seem to get much performance out of mine. Even treid installing the drivers as a root user but still having similar issues as before.
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Hello,
Mac Pro (Tower)
*OS 10.7.5
*2.8 GHx Quad-Core Intel Xeon
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I've had a multitude of issues with Adobe Premiere on this system and I'm not sure what to attribute it to. First of all: I have two MAC Book Pro's that run APremiere, with similiar specs and only 8GB of RAM. These two laptops run APremiere flawlessly and it's because of this reason that I can deduce, that my 'tower' is having issues because of the NVIDIA QUADRO 4000 installed; it's the only difference, besides the RAM, that the computers have. Has anyone had issues using the NVIDIA QUADRO 4000 before? Some of the issues I've been having are (please note, these issues are random, happen at random times and on random projects. The majority of the footage I use is MOV (from DSLR cameras) and MP4's (from a Sony EX-1)):
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Maybe the NVIDIA has nothing to do with it?
One way to accrue evidence would be to turn off Mercury Playback in the Project Settings.
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That's hardly satisfactory when one of the best features of Pr is the ability to use CUDA.
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Quadro 4000 for mac

I have now a ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB in my mac pro.
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Jim -
Jim Curtis wrote:
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