Charm in implementation project

Hi All,
Iam currently configuring charm in implementation project. We do not have QA and PRD systems build yet.
I have created transport routes DEV>VQA>VPR ie with QA and PRD as virtual systems.
Now how do I add this as virtual systems in logical component. If I create entry in SMSY manually, tomorrow when my QA and PRD systems are available, how do I change it?
Regards,
S

Hi,
For demo system you can create three additional clients say 100>dev, 100> QA, 300> PRD and 500> solution manager ( that will be your original client).
you can create logical component for the same in SMSY and also you need to set up the transport route accordingly.
you can test the entire charm functionality this way.
When you would be having your actual systems you can create another logical component and project for the real scenario in solution manager and adjust the transport routes and you can still keep the demo system active alongwith real system scenario in case you want that.
Regards,
Sarita

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ChaRM on implementation Projects

Hello
I have a conceptual question regarding the use of ChaRM on Implementation projects.
We are using ChaRM and have ensured that CTS is driven from Solution Manager i.e transport requests can only be created from corrections (SDMI). To date all SDMI's have been created as follow on documents to Change Transactions (SDCR). Going forward we would like to differentiate genuine changes (Changes to scope after blueprint sign off) from implementation activities driven from blueprinted requirements.
Whilst we see benefit from approval workflows for genuine changes, it is quite a chore to create SDCR's for all regular implementation work which is implicitly approved by signed off blueprint.
It is also difficult for us to then differentiate Changes from Implementation SDCR's.
Can anyone see a problem with all implementation tasks being generated directly as SDMI's with no preceding SDCR whilst leaving genuine changes as SDCR generated corrections?
The only one I can think of so far is that there is workflow that sets the status on an SDCR when the SDMI has been through it's lifecycle although I'm not sure how the system would behave if there is no SDCR.
Thanks
Mark

Hello,
for the first please use SDMJ. SDMI is old.
You can create SDMJ directly without SDCR and his approval workflow. There is no problem.
It is not really clear how to work with Implementation projects and "changes".
There are two known scenarios:
Implementation project (phase of the application management life cycle is "Implementation"):
If you have an really Implementation project for an Implementation of for example an new SAP product you should use an "Implementation project". It is not a change request!
Here you work with the known IMG-projects, blueprint, project phases.....
The transport process is realized via bc-sets. It means you create all you "changes" in bc-sets.
Implementation project (phase of the application management life cycle is "Optimization"):
Here you can use also the "Implementation project"
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The transport process is realized via transport requests.
I guess the different between this two scenarios is the transport process.
Hope this is helpful.
Best regards
Thomas

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I am doing implementation projects in solution manager. i have activated charm in the project so as to transport all the changes related to the project with the project lifecycle.
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Please can someone tell me how to use TEST MANAGEMENT and ChaRM for Implementation Project together??
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Edited by: Hasan Sidra on Jan 2, 2012 11:11 AM

Use Change management in implementation project

Hello SolMan Experts,
I have a requirement that I need to do an implementation through solution manager. I want to develop objects in my R/3 systems using solution manager. I have seen a thread where someone told that Change request is not possible in implementation but we have an option to create a change request with development(Implementation).
Should I create a change request development(Implementation) for each development happening for the project?
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Thanks in advance
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Hi Farzan,
While I am not able to give you further technical know-how on your specific question, I would like to share a word of caution though.
In my experience, activating ChaRM within an active Implementation Project poses problems if you have to change the 'System Landscape' of the project midway.
For instance, if you had 3 Logical Components listed in the tab Sys. Landscape of the Implementation Project, activated ChaRM, and later, you decide to add one more Logical Component, it does reset the CTS counters to '0' and you have to do a few steps manually, to restore it to what it should be.
I am not sure if this is due to a bug or if this is a known constraint. I for one, can't foresee any Implementation Project which can effectively freeze the Sys. Landscape scope by end of Blueprint phase. In long projects, due to afterthoughts and various pressures, one may end up tampering with a few Logical Components well into Realisation phase.
You may like to check with SAP over OSS and ask them for recommended approach.
As a recap, yes it is possible to activate ChaRM in Implementation project technically. However, if it is indeed a recommended approach, I am not so sure.
Regards,
Srini

Linking solution manager projects with CHARM implementation project

Hi Guys,
Currently i am working in CHARM implementation project, i have created one CHARM implementation project with urgent correction and i am able to create the Transport request and release the transport request succesfully and i am able to move it to quality system successfully. But my customer is asking to link the solution manager project to CHARM implementation project.
Earlier before implementing CHARM they have implemented project managent in solution manager, during that project they have created so many projects which are currently running, now they want those projects to be linked CHARM implementation project.
When ever they create a transport request through CHARM they want the TP to be saved under a respective project which they are using currently. but according to my knowledge the TP can be saved under CHARM implementation project only.
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Thanks&Regards
Raju

Hello,
We have implemented this with two systems landscape where in we have in place a Solution Manager Dev system and Solution manager Production system both are SOLMAN 4.0 with SP12. So the path for us to move the changes is from Development Systems to Production system.
We have ChaRM between the Dev and production. We reapplied the satellite system concept. For us the Solution manager Prod is a satellite systems all the changes that we move from Development system to Production systems is tracked with necessary documentation in the ChaRM process.
Yes, I agree with you that this is not any big magic. Working with two SOLMAN implementation, I strongly feel that SAP needs to have well rounded ChaRm processes. We have robust Change Management Process, but when we moved to ChaRM we were limited functionality of the ChaRM processes.
I had approached and did some research on how other companies are implementing the same process. Most of them have almost the same process for tracking SOLMAN changes. I am still look out for improved process to manage SOLMA changes.
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Link between implementation project configuration (SOLAR02) and ChaRM?

Dears;
We want to benefit from listing all IMG Objects and developments in an implementation project (SOLAR02) to control our transports as we have ChaRM activated on the affected systems.
But there seems to be no link/control which has several consequences:
*Status of "changes" in ChaRM and related developments in the implementation project have to be tracked seperately
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*There is no limitation/control in the content of the TR if it concerns items not listed in your project => how to check if the project is up-to-date?
Are my assumptions correct? Or am I forgetting something?
What is the experience in maintaining changes (transports) for implementation project? On what level? Linked with the structure in Solar02 or completely independant?
I have done quite some reading around the topics but documentation around project management via SolMan and ChaRM via SolMan seems never to be really connected? (only the overall status of the project and the activation of charm via SOLAR_PROJECT_ADMIN)

>
Jett Jiang wrote:
> 1. Active Change Request Management. the inter-connect is in SOLAR_PROJECT_ADMIN.
> 2. Use normal correction to control the TRs and updates the documents at the same time.
Thank you for the reply. Concerning these points:
1) This is done... No questions there
2) The "and" in your sentence means that I myself have to do both things? So there is no link?
So this does mean that (what my understanding was) I have to create a normal change via ChaRM but under the project for example a certain business scenario. That developers work on all topics related and should "remember" that if they put something under that transport they should verify if this is documented in the SOLAR02?
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ChaRM activation in implementation project??

HI
I am quite new to solution manager , i want to ask that if we have created an Implementation Project in Solution Manager What is the pupose of activating ChaRM in it?? when i can do configuration directly from "Configuration" in Solution Manager itself and directly transport it to landscape by the transport option in "SPLAR_PROJECT_ADMIN"??
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Hi Sindra,
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If during the project cycle we need to perform a correction to the development when we are in the test phase we can use Test Messages (SDTM) to control the creation of a new transport and the import process.
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Hello Gurus,
I am part of an implementation project for where we are implementing various functionalities of Solution manager.
Here we are in the process of implementing CHARMS in the Implementation Phase.
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Here the task list is already created and active
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1: If I create a change request of type 'SDCR' and authorize the change request, a normal correction of type 'SDMI' gets created automatically. But system throws an error 'No Maintenance cycle is open for the current system'
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Hi Raquel,
Thanks for the reply.
I have only activated BC Set 'SOLMAN40_CHARM_BASICFUNC_001' prior to activating CHARMS.
After Activation Charms A project cycle of type 'SDDV' also got created along with the task list.
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Implementation Project with ChaRM

Hello,
I'm on Solution Manager 7 EHP1 SP 6 and all configuration work for ChaRM has been completed. I've been following the DEMOs from SDN and SOLMAN-RKT and with some exceptions (some steps/screens are either no longer required or assumed); which leads me to believe that up to this point everything is working as is it should.
I'm still a little fuzzy when it comes to Implementation Projects. I have the following questions:
1. How are Non-IMG changes (Workbench) assigned to a project.
a. solar_project_admin -> System Landscape -> IMG only create a Customizing Request
2. In the Normal Corrections Demo, corrections are initiated through CRMD_ORDER, is this so during an Implementation Project?
3. In the DEMO there appears to be a Workflow notification process between task, is this active by default?
I know that's a lot all at once, but I finally got some momentum behind this and I want to keep it going. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide; points will be awarded.
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Hi Jose,
1. How are Non-IMG changes (Workbench) assigned to a project.
a. solar_project_admin -> System Landscape -> IMG only create a Customizing Request
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2. In the Normal Corrections Demo, corrections are initiated through CRMD_ORDER, is this so during an Implementation Project?
Yes, you can use CRMD_ORDER to create new change requests (SDCR) and select the Normal correction (SDMJ) in the subject field. Once this change request has been approved the Normal Correction will be created automatically. However you can create a new change request from a support message (SLFN) for example.
3. In the DEMO there appears to be a Workflow notification process between task, is this active by default?
I'm not sure if I have understood this last question, by default ChaRM doesn't have notifications. But you can setup this in the same way of support notification. Please take a look at the following link:
Sending E-Mail from Support Message
/people/dolores.correa/blog/2007/09/18/sending-e-mail-from-support-message
Best regards,
Fernando

ChaRM: switch back project implementation phase

Dear All,
is it possible for an implementation project to switch back the phase (for example from test to development or from golive to Emergency Correction)? Which are the contraindications?
Regards,
Bob

Hi Bob,
- technically nothing is blocking you from that
- functionally: you should just pay attention to what have been done in last phase before switching. As long as transport requests sequence is respected during import (meaning you use ChaRM for imports) there should nt be any contraindication
be aware that by checking table /tmwflow/tpphmac for phase model 'devrl' (that corresponds to implementation project) you ll know what is exactely allowed in each phase of your project type.
SAP Would not recommend changing values in this table though
Regards
Khalil
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regards
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CHARM- No task list found for implementation project

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I was also checking that one only.
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We are starting a Change Request Management project at a customer. We discuss in the blueprint phase whether we should be using it only for maintenance activities, and not for implementation projects. We have some people that can be working both in maintenance and also in projects at the same time.
We want to understand whether that scenario is possible and also whether is advisable. We want to have control over the process, and therefore we should be restricting the creation of Transport Orders through SE01 so that we know that transport requests are created only by change document action.
What are the drawback, difficulties, considerations you may consider in making that decision? Is it logic to work that way or is it better just to implement it for the whole installation, including implementation projects?
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Edited by: Esteban Hartzstein on Jan 20, 2010 3:37 PM
Edited by: Esteban Hartzstein on Jan 20, 2010 3:39 PM

We want to have control over the process, and therefore we should be restricting the creation of Transport Orders through SE01 so that we know that transport requests are created only by change document action.
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or
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CTS Mgmt in SolMan for an Implementation Project?

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Hi Avinash,
Again thanks a lot for your timely help.
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(ii) Whenever I create Implementation or Maintenace project in my SolMan system, I am not finding this "Change Request" tab under "System Landscape" tab. What could be the problem? Is that becos CHARM is not configured in my system?
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(iv) Also, you have listed a number of steps to be done. Are these steps to be done in the SolMan system?
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