Classic scenario - Sourcing

Hi,
I read that in a classical scenario, purchasers do not have to added to the purchase group in the org structure.
The purchase group mereley exists to transfer the P Ggp value to the backend system.
In this case if courcing is activated in the classical scenario, there would be no purchaser responsible for the backend PGrp.
To who will the request be forwarded?
Thanks,
Vignesh

Hi
one purchaser might be repsonsible for one product category .
you might entered responsiblity TAb for purchase group
under this you have responsible product category
whenever no source of supply is there , it goes to purchaser of responsible product category.- if you do soucing configuration.
simply when you see purchase group in the basic data click one binocular , you get purchaser name of pg .
br
muthu

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Kind regards,
sander

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We are using the extended classic scenario in SRM 5.0.
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Best regards,
Guzal

Hi Guzal,
As informed by Claudia, Incomplete mainly means no vendor assignment, no price etc.
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Hi,
I understand that when I create a SC in EBP, GOA can't be a SOS in "Extended Classic Scenario (SRM 5.0)". If I want to make GOA as SOS, how do I do it ?
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Pranav

Hi,
I had a former project where I modified SRM standard source so that I can use GOA as source of supply in extended classic scenario. In Standard, as you know, SAP doesn't allow to use GOA as SOS in extended classic. In extended classic, we have to use local SRM contract as SOS. In my case, it was SRM 3.0.
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Sourcing Cockpit in Classic Scenario

Hi,
We are implementation SRM 7.0 Classic Scenario.
The client requirement is this. They want a requester to create a incomplete shopping cart, as they are not aware of the price and the vendor at times. Now they want the incomplete shopping cart to be picked up by the buyer in the sourcing cockpit, add the price and vendor details, and then this cart to go ahead with the approval hierarchy.
Now I understand that the PO gets created directly from the sourcing cockpit, but is it possible for the buyer to complete the SHC first(we are ok with buyer approvals), and then for the SHC to go through the approval hierarchy. Else is there any other Solution for this.
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Ron

Hi
after approval only the SC goes to cockpit or follow on document created.
BUYER can determine the price
you can do the configuration Sourcing carried out without source of supply.
though REQUESTER eneter any price , BUYER can override the price.
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if it is material , the price can be picked from contract like any fixed siurce of supply.
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Hello,
We are able to successfully create the below scenario.
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Able to create RFx --> Rfx Response.
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IPC pricing is switched off and the BADI for simple pricing is activated.
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Hi,
Please check and run the following reports (se38): BBP_CND_CUSTOMIZING_CHECK & RSVMCRT_HEALTH_CHECK and post back the results.
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SAP recommends using this BAdI only in exceptional cases and only after checking thoroughly if it is compatible with the Business Scenarios used.
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i am using classic scenario.my problem is i have created shopping cart&approved.after approving this PR had been generated.
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OR
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sss

Hi
This control settings available in SRM
SPRO
cross apllication settings..
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br
muthu

Doubts in creation of PO for service PR in classic scenario

Hi everyone,
I'm working with SRM 5.5 in a classic scenario.
I have the following process:
1. A PR for services is created in ECC (Item Category "D")
2. The PR is transferred to SRM as SC
3. A bid invitation is created in sourcing cockpit
4. A bid is accepted
5. A PO is created.
In the 5th step the PO is created locally in SRM. Is this the standard behavior?? Why is not created in R/3?
Thanks,
Ivá

Hi Ivan,
For scenario details pls refer below links:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/d9/cbd33b8dca2c43e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/e9/d0fc3729b5db48e10000009b38f842/frameset.htm
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Classic scenario service PO replication

Scenario:-
Classic Scenario
No PI(Process Integration)
No PDP (Plant Driven Procurement) process
Today we created new Service purchase requisition (which is never adopted for PO creation) which contains only one item(10), under this line item (10) five service Numbers…as 20000000(Line-10),20000021(Line-20),20000025(Line-30),20000033(Line-40),20000058(Line-50)
then
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Purchase Requisition(Service) Transferred from ECC to SRM - >Purchase Requisition Converted in to shopping cart in SRM> Shopping Cart goes to sourcing -> buyer
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Please Find the attached screen shot
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Madhu

Can you please elaborate more on this .
from what I understand you want the SC item to not split into different PO generally it spits based on different shipping address maintained . You can also check this in BADI ZBBP_GROUP_LOC_PO
Below is a sample code I found from one of the earlier threads as below :
http://scn.sap.com/message/2772557#2772557
http://scn.sap.com/message/3155145#3155145
http://scn.sap.com/message/2877448#2877448
http://scn.sap.com/message/2371974#2371974
https://scn.sap.com/thread/2026160
https://scn.sap.com/thread/54153
METHOD if_ex_bbp_group_loc_po~group_po. 
*------------------------------------------------------------------------------* 
* Exit Grouping of Items for Local Purchase Orders 
** Parameters 
*ITEM_DATA TYPE BBP_INT_ITEM_GROUP Item Data for Shopping Basket Item 
*It contains the most important item details of the shopping cart and 
*additionally in the field REFNUMBER a reference number for further 
*processing purposes 
*------------------------------------------------------------------------------* 
* Method used to group item before PO creation 
* How it work ? 
* 1/ Select extra colons from table ZPO_SPLIT_CRITER 
* 2/ Getting Compoents from existing type BBP_INT_ITEM_GROUP 
* 3/ For each line recalcul Refnumber 
********************************************************************** 
* Declarations 
********************************************************************** 
*--------------------------------------------------------------------* 
* Variable 
*--------------------------------------------------------------------* 
DATA: lt_zpo_split_criter TYPE TABLE OF zpo_split_criter 
 , ls_zpo_split_criter TYPE zpo_split_criter 
 , lo_struct TYPE REF TO cl_abap_structdescr 
 , lt_field_list TYPE ddfields 
 , ls_field_list TYPE dfies 
 . 
 
DATA: 
 lt_item_data TYPE bbp_int_item_group 
, ls_item_data TYPE bbp_int_item_groups 
, ls_back_data TYPE bbp_int_item_groups 
, ls_modi_data TYPE bbp_int_item_groups 
, l_fname TYPE fieldname 
, l_refnumber TYPE refnumber 
, l_tabix TYPE sytabix 
, l_not_empty TYPE c 
, l_act_not_empty TYPE c 
. 
*--------------------------------------------------------------------* 
* Field symbols 
*--------------------------------------------------------------------* 
FIELD-SYMBOLS: <lfs_refnumber> TYPE bbp_int_item_groups-refnumber 
 , <lfs_act_refnumber> TYPE bbp_int_item_groups-refnumber 
 , <lfs_field_value> TYPE ANY 
 , <lfs_act_field_value> TYPE ANY 
 . 
*--------------------------------------------------------------------* 
* Constants 
*--------------------------------------------------------------------* 
* CONSTANTS: 
* . 
********************************************************************** 
* Process 
********************************************************************** 
* 1/ Select extra colons from table ZPO_SPLIT_CRITER 
SELECT * FROM zpo_split_criter INTO TABLE lt_zpo_split_criter 
 WHERE split EQ 'X'. 
CHECK NOT lt_zpo_split_criter[] IS INITIAL. 
DELETE lt_zpo_split_criter WHERE fieldname = 'REFNUMBER'. 
 
* 2/ Getting Compoents from existing type 
lo_struct ?= cl_abap_typedescr=>describe_by_name( 'bbp_int_item_groups' ). 
CALL METHOD lo_struct->get_ddic_field_list 
 EXPORTING 
 p_langu = sy-langu 
 p_including_substructres = abap_true 
 RECEIVING 
 p_field_list = lt_field_list 
 EXCEPTIONS 
 not_found = 1 
 no_ddic_type = 2 
 OTHERS = 3. 
IF sy-subrc <> 0. 
* MESSAGE ID SY-MSGID TYPE SY-MSGTY NUMBER SY-MSGNO 
* WITH SY-MSGV1 SY-MSGV2 SY-MSGV3 SY-MSGV4. 
ENDIF. 
 
LOOP AT lt_zpo_split_criter INTO ls_zpo_split_criter. 
* Verify if field exist in table 
 READ TABLE lt_field_list 
 TRANSPORTING NO FIELDS 
 WITH KEY fieldname = ls_zpo_split_criter-fieldname. 
 CHECK sy-subrc EQ 0. 
 
* Copy table in internal 
 lt_item_data[] = item_data[]. 
 
* Sort table by REFNUMBER and fieldname 
 SORT lt_item_data 
 BY refnumber (ls_zpo_split_criter-fieldname) 
 ASCENDING. 
 
* Clear internal value. 
 CLEAR: l_refnumber 
 . 
 
 CONCATENATE 'LS_ITEM_DATA-' ls_zpo_split_criter-fieldname 
 INTO l_fname. 
 ASSIGN (l_fname) TO <lfs_act_field_value>. 
 CHECK sy-subrc = 0. 
 CONCATENATE 'LS_BACK_DATA-' ls_zpo_split_criter-fieldname 
 INTO l_fname. 
 ASSIGN (l_fname) TO <lfs_field_value>. 
 CHECK sy-subrc = 0. 
 CONCATENATE 'LS_ITEM_DATA-' 'REFNUMBER' 
 INTO l_fname. 
 ASSIGN (l_fname) TO <lfs_act_refnumber>. 
 CHECK sy-subrc = 0. 
 CONCATENATE 'LS_BACK_DATA-' 'REFNUMBER' 
 INTO l_fname. 
 ASSIGN (l_fname) TO <lfs_refnumber>. 
 CHECK sy-subrc = 0. 
 
 CLEAR: <lfs_refnumber> 
 , <lfs_field_value> 
 . 
 
* For each reccord in table, calculate new REFNUMBER 
 LOOP AT lt_item_data INTO ls_item_data. 
 MOVE sy-tabix TO l_tabix. 
 IF <lfs_act_field_value> IS INITIAL. 
 MOVE ' ' TO l_act_not_empty. 
 ENDIF. 
 
 IF ls_zpo_split_criter-as_not_blank IS INITIAL. 
* Case of each value on field create a new refnumber 
 IF <lfs_field_value> NE <lfs_act_field_value> OR 
 <lfs_refnumber> NE <lfs_act_refnumber> . 
 l_refnumber = l_refnumber + 1. 
 MOVE <lfs_act_field_value> TO <lfs_field_value>. 
 MOVE <lfs_act_refnumber> TO <lfs_refnumber>. 
 ENDIF. 
 ELSE. 
 IF l_not_empty NE l_act_not_empty OR 
 <lfs_refnumber> NE <lfs_act_refnumber> . 
 l_refnumber = l_refnumber + 1. 
 MOVE l_act_not_empty TO l_not_empty. 
 MOVE <lfs_act_refnumber> TO <lfs_refnumber>. 
 ENDIF. 
 
 ENDIF. 
 ls_modi_data = ls_item_data. 
 ls_modi_data-refnumber = l_refnumber. 
 
 MODIFY item_data FROM ls_modi_data INDEX l_tabix 
 TRANSPORTING refnumber. 
 ENDLOOP. 
ENDLOOP. 
 
ENDMETHOD.
 
 
 
It works with the table ZPO_SPLIT_CRITER as bellow: 
CLIENT MANDT 
FIELDNAME FIELDNAME 
SPLIT BOOLE_D 
AS_NOT_BLANK BOOLE_D 
 
If you need more information, contact me directly. 
Regards, 
 
David BOUTIER 
Consultant technique Sap Netweaver - KALYDIA 
8, rue Pasquier - 75008 Paris

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I was wondering if you guys could come up with some nice suggestions on how i should go ahead and process my requirements.
We are implementing a SRM 4.0 (classic scenario) system. I am aware that all shopping carts in SRM are created and transferred to the backend as a PO/PR according to our customization and nothing goes to the sourcing cockpit when a vendor is not assigned in a classic scenario.
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In other words in the shopping cart is approved
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I am working with classic scenario. I have created one catalog for services where I used service as a catagory(from backend R/3).
I have maintained contracts for this services in the Backend R/3 as well as vendor lists with respective contract in SRM.
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Regards,
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