Closed Captioning Visual Clues

Back in the dark ages, a feature I really liked in Cp4 was that when you edited the Closed Captioning placement on the audio track, the appropriate text line would be highlighted to coincide with the line number that was playing.
I can't find that feature anymore, and as a result, I spend too much time reading the words.
Am I missing something here?

Hi there
Ackeal wrote:
...Am I missing something here?
Yep. The dev team elected to not have that feature for some reason.
Please submit it as a bug or a feature request (depending on your view). Link to the reporting form is in my sig.
Cheers... Rick
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Can you do Closed Captioning on FCP HD

I have been using FCP to create a few TV programs and need to create closed captioning, but I can't seem to figure out if I can use FCP to generate closed captioning.
Anyone know how to create closed captioning in a FCP environment?
Thanks,
Wil

Wai a second. So my clients won't know the difference between subtitling and the closted captioning? Does subtitling run on line 21 as well?
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Well, I've never met your clients but 90% of mine have no clue.
Subtitling is permanently burned into the image. Could be another language but could be the native or local language written out for the hard of hearing or to make poor audio intelligible.
Captioning (open/closed) is user-activated at the playback device. All TVs have CC switchable display. But there are several flavors of captioning including multiple language encoding.
bogiesan

Adobe Captivate 7: Change font size of imported localized closed captions

I'm attempting to use the export/import captions functionality in Captivate 7 and when I import the text, the imported Japanese characters are HUGE. The font in the imported Word doc aren't that big and I'm unsure how to adjust the imported closed captions to they display correctly. As you can see below, the characters are way too big. I've tried adjusting the font size in the CC Project Settings window, but no luck. Any suggestions? Thanks!!
Current CC settings:

Lilybiri-
Thank you for your helpful Adobe Captivate postings... Your material is better than Adobe's online help because you use visual screen shots and videos. Also you explain how to find comands in the Captivate menu.
Adobe should hire you!
Thanks,
-Dave Ellert, PE
Instructor in Engineering
University of Southern Indiana

Closed captions with Captivate 5

Although, I went through the help part and some of the earlier discussion it didnt solve my problem. I would simply like to include sub-titles (close-captions) on my slide. these are the instructions I followed:
Select the check boxes in the closed captions column and corresponds to the notes you want to convert to closed captions.
Click Closed Captioning.
In the Closed Captioning of the Slide Audio dialog box, adjust the start time and end time for the caption.
Click the + icon to add additional closed captions. Click the ‘-’ icon to remove closed captions.
Click CC Project Settings to change the font, size, color, background, and the number of lines in which the captions must be displayed.
the thing is: although when I click on 'Captions & Slide Notes...' under 'Slide Audio' , the text seems to be included only under the Slide Notes and not under the Captions. And it does not allow me to copy/paste the text under the Captions tab. When I try checking the preview, the sub-titles are not visible.
I know I am working in the right area but just need a hint so I can finally have the closed captions. Screen shots would really help too:)
Thanks.
Shivam

Lilybiri-
Thank you for your helpful Adobe Captivate postings... Your material is better than Adobe's online help because you use visual screen shots and videos. Also you explain how to find comands in the Captivate menu.
Adobe should hire you!
Thanks,
-Dave Ellert, PE
Instructor in Engineering
University of Southern Indiana

Closed Captions - issue with forcing Caption Change

Hi,
I am trying to adjust the position of the closed caption based on the flv player's skinAutoHide property:, i.e.: when I mouse out on the flv, the skin is hidden and I'd like to set y position of the closed caption to the bottom of the screen. When I mouse over the flv, the skin is shown and I'd like to display the closed cation on top of the player skin.
The code I have works, but I don't know how to call my onCaptionChange function without the caption changing, i.e.: I'd like to call it on the Mouse Event, but then of course, var tf:* would be undefined. Thanks for any help, I'm a wee bit stuck on this one.
Cheers,
~Chipleh
var my_FLVPlybkcap = new FLVPlaybackCaptioning();
my_FLVPlybkcap.addEventListener(CaptionChangeEvent.CAPTION_CHANGE, onCaptionChange);
function onCaptionChange(pEvent : *) : void
    var tf:* = pEvent.target.captionTarget;
    tf.name = "tf";
    setAutoLayout();
    if(alignCCToBottomFlag == true)
        //tfX = tf.x;
        tfY = 400;//tf.y;
        //my_FLVPlybkcap.autoLayout = true;
        trace("alignCCToBottomFlag = " + alignCCToBottomFlag);
        //newYPos = Number(440 - tf.height);
        //my_FLVPlybkcap.showCaptions = false;
    else
        trace("alignCCToBottomFlag = " + alignCCToBottomFlag);
        newYPos = Number(390 - tf.height);
        //tfX = tf.x;
        //tfY = 300//tf.y;
        //my_FLVPlybkcap.autoLayout = false;
        //tf.y = tfY;//newYPos;//my_FLVPlybkcap.height; // position of choice
    tf.y = newYPos;//my_FLVPlybkcap.height; // position of choice
    var rect:Shape = new Shape();
    rect.graphics.lineStyle(.1, 0x333333, 1); //Last arg is the alpha
    rect.graphics.beginFill(0xffffff, .33); //Last arg is the alpha
    rect.graphics.drawRect(tf.x, tf.y + 5, tf.width, tf.height);
    rect.graphics.endFill();
    rect.name = "_rect";
    addChild(rect);
    tf.mask = rect;
    tfWidth = tf.width;
    tfHeight = tf.height;
    tfX = tf.x;
    tfY = tf.y;

So, the answer was not being able to properly target the text field of the closed caption, but I was able to figure out how to refernece the cc text field:
var newYPos:Number = 100;
    my_FLVPlybkcap.captionTarget.y = newYPos;
Anyways, thanks to the forum for being my visual sounding board
Hope this helps out someone else evenetually,
~Chipleh

Closed Caption colors disappear

The closed captions look fine in Premiere Pro. When I export the video as Quicktime using "embed in output file" the captions show up but the colors are gone. Mostly - one random line of red retainied its color.
I have several diffferent speakers plus a VO so I want to use the colors to distinguish the various speakers. Any clue why every color change I used in PP disappeared in the QT file and all of them are now white? (All, except that one line out of a 12 minute documenatry.)
Thanks so much.

Yay! I did what you said and can manually turn select the closed captions box in the slide notes and that adds them back in. I still have to adjust the timing, but this is a HUGE time saver.
What am I doing wrong to lose them in the first place? I added them origninally by double clicking on the audio in the slide timeline and then selecting the Closed Captioning tab. I then cut the text out of our script (in another application) and paste it line by line into the CC tab. It seems to work because I see the CC in the published file.
Should I only add Closed Captions through slide notes? I never bothered with slide notes before.
Thanks for all your help- you've saved me a lot of time and frustration already!
Nancy

Possible bug with SCC / closed captions?

Hi,
I just want to post this so that anyone else that runs into the same problem I did might be helped...
Like a lot of other people, I was having trouble getting Encore to properly encode closed captions. I tried over and over with no success. I tried placing the SCC in field 1, field 2, both at the same time, etc... I tried with and without re-encoding the already compliant MPEG-2 file being used as the source. Still no luck. No matter what I did I could not get Encore DVD to properly encode my SCC file on the new DVD.
However, I did have one clue that eventually helped me figure out a workaround. Although I was not seeing the closed captions from my SCC file, I was seeing the original closed captions from the original VHS videotape my source file was captured from (I should note that even then, I wasn't seeing the original closed captions on standalone DVD players...I could only see them with PowerDVD...) So, I began to ask myself why Encore DVD was not overwriting the original line-21 captions with my new SCC file. It was as if Encore DVD was completely ignoring the new SCC file.
Well, to make a long story short, I found that I could get the new captions to work perfectly if I removed the old captions from the original MPEG-2 source file first. Apparently, Encore DVD will not overwrite existing line-21 data (a bug, I'm guessing...) even if the user properly loads the new SCC file.
For anyone who is having this problem and wants to try my solution, download ReStream and remove the user data from the existing MPEG-2 file. The new file without user data has now worked for me every time I have tried it. Actually, to be honest, I'm not really sure if this bug pops up only when existing captions are detected or if just any user data will trigger it. So, anyone who is having trouble getting SCC to work with Encore DVD and successfully uses this workaround, post back here and maybe Adobe will do something about it.
Thanks.

Ok well I tested it by going VCR->DV converter->iMovie->iDVD, and the closed captions were lost at some point. The tape does have closed captions when played in the VCR, and I know my DVD player displays closed captions properly (I tested a commercial disc both in the Mac and in a standalone DVD player and those showed captions), but the DVD I created doesn't display closed captions either in the Mac DVD Player or the standalone unit.
So...anyone think maybe importing into Final Cut Pro and burning with DVD Studio Pro would work better for this than iMovie? I imagine there would be no difference (since iDVD uses the same Compressor app as DVDSP).
So I guess I'm stuck. At this point I can't even use the DVD/VCR dub machine since it won't allow dubbing of copy-protected tapes (even though this tape will likely never see a DVD release and it's crappy VHS quality anyway and it's just for my own personal use as a backup)...any suggestions?

Converting Captivate 3 to 4 (EConvertError), Fixing Missing Item Name & Closed Captioning Freeze

This isn't a question, but I do want to share the information since I couldn't find anything on the topic and had to play with it for hours.
I had an old Captivate 3 file and needed to open it, intact, in Captivate 4. First I received the error: Exception EConvertError in module when I tried to open the file and clicked OK to save the file as a different name. Once I found a workaround and got my file up and running again, the Item Name fields were missing on all slides, and I therefore could not convert to a swf format. Once I figured out the workaround for this issue, I noticed the closed captioning in the swf file would only show the first frame, then it would freeze as the video played. The following instructions will help you with any of these issues:
If you still have Captivate 3 available and receive the EConvertError message when trying to save as a new file from Captivate 4:
Open Captivate 3
Turn OFF the LMN setting
Resave in Captivate 3
Open again in Captivate 4
If you only have Captivate 4 available and receive the EConvertError message when trying to save as a new file from Captivate 4::
Click OK when you receive the Exception EConvertError message
Locate the file and reopen it
Tada!
If you have fixed the file and have it open successfully, but are missing the "Item Name" fields:
Double-click the first slide to open it
In the slideshow panel on the left, right-click on the first slide and selct Copy slide
Click on the first slide again and select Paste slide
The new slide will be inserted after the original
Delete the original slide
Repeat these steps for each slide
This will put the Item Name back onto each slide element in the correct order
If you have fixed the file and have it open successfully, but the Closed Captioning (CC) is freezing on the first line of text in the swf file:
Create a new blank project with the target project file open as well
Look at all settings, i.e., skin color, closed captioning properties, etc and make sure they match in the blank presentation (you don't have to worry about the dimensions)
Go to the File menu, then Import, then Slides/Objects...
The Closed Captioning will work in the new file
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Hi Katie
I wasn't trying to be condescending, I was genuinely confused by your instructions. I had no clue what you were referring to. We see this often here. Sometimes there is something to give us a clue as to what is being referred to. For example, folks regularly say they are having trouble with Text Boxes. This could mean Text Entry Boxes or it could mean Text Captions. So we might be able to intuit that they mean one or the other by the way they stated the issue. In your case there seemed to be no context upon which to draw the conclusion.
I apologize if I came off as being condescending, as it wasn't meant that way.
I think if you will take some time and read some of the posts I make you will come to the conclusion that I was only trying to be helpful.
Cheers... Rick
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Text caption in hidden not exported (export /project captions and closed captions)

If you have in your demonstration text caption (ballooons) in
hidden , if you export the project caption to word it's not in
there...
I use to set some text captions to hidden to ease my life on
slides that contain lots of ballons (and some over other ones) ,
when I export the flash animation, everything is fine , all is in
there (including the "hidden text") .
The trouble is that if i export the "project caption and
closed caption" to Word , the text of captions in hidden is not in
there . (I'm not talking about exporting handsout where you have an
option to export as well hidden slides.)
Exept if I'm wrong, I have not founded any option to manage
the fact to export hidden caption as well (or set all hidden
caption of the demonstration to "not hidden") .
It is really a problem , especially if you have done lots of
movie that needs translation, you have sent the "exported caption"
to the translation service and now you realise that some parts are
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Hi There,
When you export the doc file as Project Caption and Closed Caption. if you change the fonts and style in Doc file and the reimported it in Captivate. It will accept those changes and you can see those changes in Captivate with the same fonts settings.
Thanks
Priyank

Closed Captioning not showing up at specified In / Out points

Hi all,
I recently upgraded to a trial of 7.2.1 (I'm a *long* time CS user) and am having an issue with closed captioning that's got me pulling my hair out. Upon importing a .scc file and inspecting it in the captions tab, I have all the captions I'm expecting at the proper timecodes (for example if I look up the start of a line in the program window the start timecode matches the "In" timecode listed in the Captions tab).
However upon playing the timeline and turning on Closed Caption display - the captions are not displaying (nor disappearing) at the in/out timecodes listed in the caption tab. They're showing up (roughly) seven seconds later at the beginning of the program, and over 11 seconds late by the end of the program.
Does anyone have the foggiest idea how to resolve this? I guess it's possible it's just a player issue and the issue will correct itself on output, but that's not really comforting. I could do what I need on this job by renewing my license for some other software, but Premiere would be a more versitile use of my limited software upgrade budget - but only if it can actually do the job properly.

Hi Mark and monstremoi,
With all the fiddling I've been doing in raw captioning files the fact that I didn't just try increasing the hight of the track is completely rediculous. Lo and behold, there are the handles! Once I could actually see the captions in the track I noticed something interesting - that the .scc and .xml files are being interpreted quite differently.
If I take the same caption source file and output one xml and one scc and lay them on top of each other, this is what it looks like:
The XML is starting immediately at timecode 0, even though the first start time should be 4:06 (weirdly the scc is actually starting at the right time code in this test, something it's refused to do previously).
If I manually set the offset of the first caption by forwarding the xml caption track to 4:06 we get this:
*This* XML track seems to play out synchronous with the program albeit with some odd formatting (it doesn't appear to be reading any of the font positioning information from the timed text file, it's just playing everything top frame, justified left.
Already though up above you can see though that although the SCC stars at the right timecode, it's starting to drift out of sync less than 30 seconds in - which doesn't make any sense when both have been output from the same 29.97 timebase source.
Monstremoi - to answer you questions, no I've not done any captioning work in premiere pro previously. I actually didn't even know it was a feature until I read about the improvements in CC. Most of our captioning files come from Annotation Edit (zeitanker.com). If they're not prepared in AnnotationEdit / AnnotationTranscriber, we usually do some conversion work through it before outputting (usually to set offsets or whatever if we're adding presentation cards or something).
Happy to send you files to pull apart - although I'd rather not post them as a forum d/l link. Do you have an e-mail I can send them to?

New to OSMF - have several questions (closed captions, tutorial, etc), please help!

Hello,
I came across OSMF this week and am extremely curious to learn more about this for my job and personal work/knowledge. If any of these questions could be answered I will be ever-so grateful!! Thank you.
1) Anyone know of or have any information or tutorials or plug-ins on how to make OSMF videos work with closed captions for single or a multi-video player gallery for each video? (captions - this is very important for my job)
2) Does anyone know of any good and easy to understand (I'm mid-level in AS3) tutorials and/or source files on how to build an OSMF player preferably in Flash?
3) I know Flash Builder (Flex) some, but am better with Flash (CS4/5), but a lot of what I see is for Flex... what is preferred for OSMF - Flex or Flash or it doesn't matter?
4) I searched Amazon.com, but couldn't find - are there any books for OSMF?
Sorry I posed this in Developers also, but unsure which is appropriate for my questions. Thank you, again.

Hi, Duane!
This may help with your questions re: captions..
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/osmf.adobe/index.php?title=Captions
As for tutorials, we've got some links to ones created by members of the community here:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/osmf.adobe/index.php?title=osmf.adobe:Community_Port al
And, as far as OSMF books, there aren't any third-party ones of which I'm aware. You can download a PDF of Adobe's OSMF Dev Guide here (the PDF link is at the upper right):
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/OSMF/1.0/Dev/index.html
Or, you can view the very same content in topic-by-topic form at the wiki in the links above.
Best of luck with your endeavors!
donna

Free / open source Closed Captioning software?

I'd like to add closed captions to a feature film I produced. I understand the difference between closed captioning (which is embedded in the video and decoded by the TV) and DVD subtitles, and I would like to add real closed captioning.
Is there any free / open source Mac-compatible closed captioning software I can use to add captions to my feature film and create a .cc file for importing into DVD Studio Pro?
I'm more than comfortable with steep learning curves and X11 interfaces. If I have to use a text editor and timecodes, that's fine too. I just need that .cc file to add true closed captioning to my video, and I don't have the dough for commercial CC software.
Thanks!

my company does offer closed captioning as a service, Kelly is correct when he says the software is very expensive. as far as creating a .scc file with a text editor, i don't believe it is possible but i may be wrong. when opening a .scc or .cc file in a text editor, it does look like a bunch of "gobbledygook". but the .cap file that is used to create the .scc or .cc file looks a bit more manageable and could possibly be created without captioning software, again i may be wrong and have never attempted to do it. but say you could do it, you could save a bunch of money by creating the .cap file and giving it to someone who has the software to convert it to .scc or .cc. if that seems overwhelming and want to job it out, you could save some money by transcribing the video yourself which is a significant part of the cost when outsourcing. here is a sample of what a .cap file looks like:
~CPCC6.70~;Upper;PopOn;01;
00:00:48:06³0CEN³WELCOME TO.
00:00:52:08³0CFN³
00:00:53:23³0C2N³(CHOIR SINGING)
00:01:00:26³0C1N³
00:01:25:25³0C1N³I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO\THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE WITH US
00:01:28:24³0C1N³RIGHT NOW ON THE INTERNET\ALL OVER THE WORLD.
00:01:31:17³0C1N³IT'S SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE CHURCH\MEMBERS THAT HAVE MOVED ON.
00:01:35:25³0C1N³I GOT A CALL TWO WEEKS\AGO FROM A FAMILY THAT MOVED

Movies playing in iTunes will not show closed captions

I have purchased several movies from the iTunes store. They all have Closed Captioning listed in the store description. I need Closed Captioning because I have hearing loss and even with my hearing aids, I cannot hear all the dialogue in movies.
In my iTunes app, I opened Preferences-->Playback and checked the box for "Show closed captioning when available." Then I play the movie in iTunes. No captions. I click on the Controls menu for Audio & Subtitles. It's grayed out.
I go to the .m4v file in Finder and open the movie with Quicktime to see whether I can get captions that way. No captions. I check the View menu for Show Closed Captioning. It's grayed out.
At this point I'm thinking these movies do not really HAVE captions, despite what the store description said. However, this proves to be wrong because I turn on my TV and start up my Apple TV 3. I select "Movies" and then "Purchased" and find these movies. When I play these movies via the Apple TV, they all show up on the TV screen with the captions working perfectly.
So, what gives? I've spent hours searching the internet for a solution, but all I can find is that the selection I've made in iTunes preferences *should* make the captions show up in iTunes. I'm stumped. I want to play the movies on my computer in iTunes (or in Quicktime) so that I don't have to be at my house in front of my TV in order the enjoy them. Is there any way I can make these movies play in iTunes with the captions showing? Can anyone make any suggestions? I'd be very grateful if someone could help me achieve this goal.

I have same problem with my son's iPod Touch running iOS 5.1.1. I set "explicit" to off, but then many songs we purchased on iTunes that are labeled as "clean" do not show up on his iPod Touch. If I set "explicit" to on, they do show up.

Open with "Closed Captioning" on, or always show CC

I want to have my projects start with "closed captioning". I tried to down load the little SWF file, from the third party, recommended elseware, but it doesn't seem to work. It says it was made for Captivate 4, and I'm using 5.
Any help? Is there another way to set CC as the default?

Robert, I think the issue here is that after you insert the new slide and drag it to the first of the presentation, you then defeat the purpose of adding the new slide because you then configure THAT slide to execute the advanced action to set the variable.
The point of introducing a new slide is to introduce a delay that gives the presentation time to "settle" before turning on the Closed Captioning.
The bottom line is that you insert the slide, move it to the beginning and configure the timing for perhaps .1 or .2 seconds. THEN execute the action on the SECOND slide.
Give that a try and see if things improve.
Cheers... Rick
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Importing swf file with skin and closed captioning problems

I created a flv file in Preimere and I pulled it into flash to create close captioning. When I publish it, it creates a swf file that I can open up on its own and it has the skin with the button to push to show the closed caption. When I try to bring that file into captivate, it doesnt bring in the skin and it just automatically shows the captions. How do I get it to bring the skin in with it?

Are you seeing this problem when you preview you project. or only after you publish it? If it is when you publish, is it in both the local version and/or in the web version?
Also, which version of Flash Catalyst? 1.0 or 5.5.?
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