Closed Lid Performance

I use my 13" MBP in my home office with the lid closed, connected to a cinema display and wireless keyboard & mouse. At the other end of the house is our Airport Extreme base station. Everything works fine throughout the house (two laptops, iMac, two iPhones, Mac Mini, iPod Touch). Often I notice slow Internet on my computer, so I run a speed test. With the lid closed I'll get a download speed of 2.5 Mb/s, when I open the lid (even just an inch), it rises to 15.2 Mb/s. I hadn't noticed this until the past few months of having Internet problems and resorting often to the speed test. Is this typical? Is there an external antenna I could plug into a USB port or something?

Often I notice slow Internet on my computer, so I run a speed test. With the lid closed I'll get a download speed of 2.5 Mb/s, when I open the lid (even just an inch), it rises to 15.2 Mb/s.
I believe that the wireless antenna for the MBP is built into the top portion of the case. I would think that closing the case will affect performance as you would be changing the orientation of the antenna ... and will be especially noticeable at greater distances from the base station as signal strength weakens.
Is there an external antenna I could plug into a USB port or something?
Yes there are at least two vendors, that I am aware of, that offer this type of option: QuickerTek and hField Technologies

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1. never put system to standby after preset time. (either on battery or AC power)
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Hello K1200LT,
Welcome to the HP Forums!
I understand the computer will not sleep when you shut down the lid. You seem to have already done most of the troubleshooting I would've suggested.
To be honest, it is either a hardware or software-related issue. To determine this, I would like you to reinstall the operating system. It will clear up any software conflicts and allow you to start fresh.
First, please ensure you backup your files. Here is information on how to do this: Backing Up Your Files (Windows 8)
Once this is done, it is safe to reinstall the operating system. Performing an HP System Recovery (Windows 8)
If the same situation occurs, the computer likely has faulty hardware. At that point, please contact HP phone support. You can utilize this website to learn how to contact HP appropriately, based on your region: Contact HP Worldwide
Please let me know what happens. Thanks!
Mario
I worked on behalf of HP.

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I am having such problem lately. I suspect it is caused by new updates performed by system update,
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I managed to hook up the DVI to VGA adapter and view on my Sanyo TV. Nothing fancy just a older TV.
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and please ... STOP SHOUTING!
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