Color Settings issues in Lightroom.

I'm new to Lightroom, and I have been using it for sometime with no issues, until recently.
I normally shoot with a Nikon D800, and haven't had any issues with it, importing, and reading colors. Recently I rented a Fujix100 for a job, and used lightroom as well to process all those images, but I feel like it may have changed a preference setting in lightroom because now when I import from my Nikon, where there should be a subtle gradation, I get magenta banding.
Strange thing is, this only happens in the Lightroom workspace. When I export the image, I don't see the banding, and even on a friends monitor, they don't notice the banding.
Im getting my Nikon checked out as we speak to make sure its not my sensor, but my question is, is there anyway to reset the color settings on Lightroom just to be on default?
And is that information then attached to my different catalogs, or just the application?
Thanks.
-J.
Edit- I should also add taht I had to replace the monitor on my computer be cause of yellowing, so I know that my monitor is new (unless they replaced it with a faulty monitor, but then I would see banding everywhere.)

I think the problem is with the new monitor, not with the cameras. Shooting with a different brand or model shouldn't have any impact on another model. If you are talking about resetting default cameras settings, yes you can do that. But using the Fuji should not have impacted the Nikon at all. You either need to calibrate that new monitor, or exchange it for another if you have that option.

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howdego wrote:
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HDMI 1 (Cable Box) & Coax (Cable)
HDMI 2 (Panasonic Blu-Ray Player)
PICTURE - 1
Movie
Standard
Dynamic
Movie
Standard
Dynamic
Contrast
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82
82
82
82
82
Brightness
43
45
45
43
45
45
Sharpness
25
25
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45
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Tint
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NA
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NA
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NA
White Balance
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13
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NA
13
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NA
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NA
15
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17
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NA
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Low
Low
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http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5585/28037816.png
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http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9311/35278285.png
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Make sure that your color settings in Photoshop is set to sRGB
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NOTE: if Photoshop is set to Adobe RGB , that too is ok and that's when you will get the "mismatch profile message"
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Message was edited by: Falcon01

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Thanks
@Noel
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http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
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But!!! If the moitors were not calibrated, then a fireworks image would look different on each screen. In fact they look exactly the same on both.
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It is only Photoshop that darkens the part of the image that hangs onto the Cintiq. And it is very dark.
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I spent all day Googling and doing side by side comparisons of my old and new systems.
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i wasn't able to follow your lengthy post, and the color management chain is too complicated (for me) to address here other to say Acrobat reads tagged elements and converts their colors to Monitor RGB (so you must have stripped the profiles in the PDF, and the Acrobat CMS is applying or passing through the wrong profile)
further, if you don't want to rely on profiles, your safest bet (for screen viewing) is to CONVERT everything to sRGB (but i would still include the profile in case someone wants to display or print the document 'accurately'
Here is a look at a several critical color setting in Export to Acrobat that control: Downsampling, Compression, Color Conversions, Destination, and Tagging (click on image for blowup):
PS:
these panels were grabbed from an InDesign Export PDF process, but Photoshop should have similar options somewhere

Color Management issues with Illustrator

Can someone help me figure out the color management issues I'm getting when printing on an Epson 3880 from Illustrator?
The image comes out severely red as evident on the face. I'm not getting the same problem when printing from Photoshop, even though I set same paper profile in printing dialog box.
I attached two printed picture (one from Photoshop CC, and one from Illustrator CC) that I took with my iphone so that you can see the printed result. Even when I try to simulate same thing using illustrator soft proofing process, the soft proof does not show me anything close to how it gets printed out. And I tried all device simulations to see if any would match it. Im using CMYK SWOP v2 for Color space in both programs.

Dougfly,
Only an hour wasted? Lucky you. Color is an incredibly complex subject. First, forget matching anything to the small LCD on the back of your camera. That's there as a basic guide and is affected by the internal jpg algorithm of your camera.
2nd, you're not really takeing a color photo with your digital camera, but three separate B&W images in a mosaic pattern, exposed thru separate red, green and blue filters. Actual color doesn't happen until that matrix is demosaiced in either your raw converter, or the in-camera processor (which relies heavily on camera settings, saturation, contrast, mode, etc.)
Having said the above, you can still get very good, predictable results in your workflow. I have a few color management articles on my website that you might find very helpful. Check out the Introduction to Color Management and Monitor and Printer Profiling. In my opinion, a monitor calibration device is the minimum entry fee if you want decent color.
http://www.dinagraphics.com/color_management.php
Lou

Excel 2010 ignores print server's default color settings.

Excel 2010 ignores print server's default color settings.
Our Setup:
Printers are hosted on Server 2008 R2 Print Server.
Two local printers are created on the print server for each Xerox MFP that we have.   Example: Xerox MFP (B&W) - Default settings are set to print black and white only.    Xerox MFP
(Color) - Default settings are set to print color.     So for every MFP we have two printers are created.
Both variations of the network printers are deployed to the users with the Black and White version being the default.    If a user needs to print something in color, they select the Color version of the MFP printer.   This
helps us save on color toner costs.
This works great for web applications, Microsoft Word, Adobe Reader, and other applications.   But, it doesn't seem to work in Microsoft Excel 2007 or 2010.   Whatever the default printer is of the two versions that are deployed,
excel seems to hold onto those printer settings.
Example: If your default printer is Xerox MFP (B&W), when you select Xerox MFP (Color), it still retains the Black and White selection in the printer properties. However, if you select a completely different model printer such
as Fax, and then go to  Xerox MFP (Color), it will pick up the necessary default color settings.
If I install the printers locally on the user's PC/Computer, it works perfectly.   However, it doesn't work when they are utilizing the print server's printers.
Things that I have tried:
Different drivers for Xerox. Global, PS, PCL.
Different brands of printers.   Still experience the same issue.
Different port names.
Different protocols, raw versus LPR.
Different versions of excel, 2007 and 2010.
Looked through group policy to see if I could force it.
Checked the excel sheet settings, black and white only was not selected.
Tried most of the printer properties settings.
Created a Server 2012 print server and experienced the same result.
Xerox's custom configuration file editor.
*Something to note, if I have the black and white version utilize PostScript Drivers and the color version utilize PCL driver, it correctly loads the color settings.   However, if you utilize Postscript for both versions, it doesn't.
I have to vary the print drivers. Ideally, I don't want to have to do this because I want consistency between prints.

Hi,
Make sure you have the latest printer drivers - go to the manufacture's website, download and install if necessary.
Jaynet Zhang
TechNet Community Support

Help with Color Settings/Profiles...White's look 'yellow' when exported to PowerPoint as a .png

I am running into this odd occurence and can't seem to figure it out.
First - I am not an expert in the Color settings/Profiles topic but I am thinking there is an issue here.
When I look at this image "McCroreyDigitalLogo.png" in Photoshop the 'whites' appear right.
Then when I import it into ms PowerPoint, the whites look yellowish.
I have done a series of 'tests' and it seems to be that the color profile out of photoshop and the one in PowerPoint are not compatible.
I have reset my Photoshop preferences with no luck/change to the results.
Finally, I did a screen shot out of photoshop and pasted that into Power point. The white appeared correct.
Could use some guidance on how to fix this one. Basically any files I run through PS, when they are imported into PowerPoint, the whites turn yellow.
Thanks in advance

PowerPoint is not a color managed program and can display the color values only in the color space of your monitor without any correction.
Color managed programs like Photoshop correct the color values when displaying them in order to simulate within the color space of your monitor other color spaces, for example sRGB, AdobeRGB, the color spaces of various printers, and etc. For this reason you can not match the color in non-color managed programs to the color of color managed programs but you can do the opposite match the color in Photoshop to PowerPoint.
There is two ways to do this:
One way is if you want the color values in Photoshop to remain the same but be displayed in the color space of your monitor which PowerPoint is using, you can either color proof with or assign your monitor profile to the document.
To color proof choose View > Proof Setup > Monitor RGB.
To assign, choose Edit > Assign Profile, select Profile and from the menu choose the color profile of your monitor. If you are not sure what's the name of the color profile of your monitor, go to the Color Settings, in the Working Spaces section use the RGB menu, scroll up and check what it says after Monitor RGB-
Both proof and assign will give the same result on your monitor but the difference is - the proof is temporary and will last only for the session and the profile, if embedded when saving the file, will stay and when open in other color managed programs including those on other users' computers the color space of your monitor will be simulated and for those users who don't use color managed programs the colors could be way off than if saved with a profile of a more common color space like sRGB.
The other way is If you want the appearance in Photoshop to remain but the color values converted to the color space of your monitor, choose Edit > Convert to Profile, and from the RGB menu choose the color profile of your monitor. This will preserve the appearance and also match the colors in PowerPoint but like proofing and assigning you are not seeing what other users may see on their computers.
It is not possible to see the same colors in color managed and non-color managed programs and at the same time simulate how others using different computers may see the colors because different monitors display color values differently. Color managed programs can simulate a common standard color space like sRGB while non-color managed programs can not.
Edit: Have in mind all this will work properly if you have a color profile that describes correctly how your monitor displays colors. What you did as described in your post #6 is assign a color space that may be different than the color space of your monitor. The result is when working in sRGB color space your color managed programs will match the non color managed programs on your monitor but that doesn't mean that the actual sRGB space is displayed and any other color space simulation could be based on a wrong monitor profile.

Missing print settings tab in lightroom

Anyone know how to get the print settings tab in lightroom? I have the page setup tab--but not the print settings tab.

I was watching Julianne Koss on AdobeTV talking about printing in Lightroom 5. The left bottom part of her screen has two “tabs”—one says “page set up” and one says print settings. On my screen I only have “page setup”. A great deal of her talk is about Print Settings—this is where you choose the printer, the presets, the copies, the pages, the print settings, media type, color, color settings, print quality---pretty much everything having to do with printing. I don’t have that tab…VERY frustrating!
Hers looks like the first attached photo (see tabs that say page setup and print settings)
Mine looks like the second attached photo (see only page setup tab)
Thank you for your help.
Take care,
Maren Aberle
<http://www.firsttracksphotography.com/> www.firsttracksphotography.com
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