Conditions type of category "Delivery Costs"(B) donu00B4t allow negative values

Hello,
I would like to know if it is possible to munipulate a condition type with category "B" Delivery costs in such a way that it allows a negative entry in the Purchase Order.
Estandard SAP does not allow it. Message: 06259 "Negative Delivery costs are not allowed".
If the above is not possible, can anyone tell me how a can manipulate a Discount (fixed amount) in such a way that it not only points at a particlar account (accruels indicator does this job) upon MIGO, but also apears as a line-item upon receiving the invoice (MIRO). As far as I know, only Planned delivery costs can do this job. But they do not allow negative values!
If anyone has encountered a similar task, please tell me how they solved it.
Thanks,
Aart

Hello Guys,
The scenario isas follows.
When one buys fuel, in Chile one has to pay fuel especific Taxes.
Version especific config does not resolve this because we need the tax in amount (value) not in percentage.
In our system we resolved this by creating a material "Fuel especific Taxes" which points at a tax-account with a special tax-indicator.
So far so good.
Now the government implemented a second fuel tax - "Fuel tax variable" which we might resolve in the same way, but the problem is this tax might be negative(!).
We cannot create a material with a "negative value" in our Purchase Order and discount conditions have inmediate efect on the material costs in the PO.
The ideal would be incorporate a condition type in the PO which upon invoicing (MIRO) shows up with the tax account (and a possible negative value!
The model we have developed upto now is using the tabpage "GeneralAccount" in the MIRO but in this model we have to indicate the account ourselves. The system does not propose it.
Thats why I thought of the "Planned Delivery costs" option.
Hope this clarifies a bit more the case we have.
Thanks for any feedback
Aart

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Please advice.
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Hi,
1) In this,u r maintain Condition Type,u assign that Condition Type to Pricing Procedure.Pricing Procedure to Accounting view of the Vendor Master Record with the combination of the our Purchasing Organization.
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Suresh.
> Hi Guru's,
>
> Please advice.
>
> I have 3 questions:
>
> 1) Who knows a condition type in a purchase order
> with the goal that I can
> register costs per purchase order item ? Example 10
> Euro for a certificate per item?
>
> 2) The same but now per purchase order 10 Euro.
>
> 3) Is there a condiont type where I can use the
> number of deliveries as basis?
> For example: we get charged 10 Euro per delivery. The
> total of deliveries are not known during PO
> creation.
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
> Eric
>
> Message was edited by:
> eric van zundert

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Message was edited by: PORCELANOSA MM

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Hi Rajesh,
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I went through the notes but as usual I found them confusing.
Anyways,what is the alternative in this case because I need to add the conditions as delivery costs while creation of PO as header condition and it's likely that rarely I may require to delete/change /add them after GR/Cancellation before Invoice posting.
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