Consignment and Tax Base Amount

All,
We are getting the error "the tax amount must not be greater than the tax base". When doing a trace the Tax Base Amount is ZERO. Can someone tell me where/how the tax base amount is determined?
Thank you,
Sandra

What I have found so far is the system calculates the base amount by adding the line items that have a tax code associated with it. In the scenario I have it appears the tax code is not associated with any of the items on the settlement and therefore the tax base = 0.
This is SAP standard transaction MRKO in a 4.5B system.   The info record has a tax code on it and it does not appear to matter which tax code in on the info record.
Anyone have any ideas on where I can look or what to look for?    Is this a tax set up issue? Is it a program error?   I've tried to find all the tax configuration and compare with a working example in the same system but have not been successful. I've also looked in OSS and there are several OSS notes that are remotely related to consignment and taxes but we are on a fairly high hotpack # so .... just not sure where to go.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Sandra

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