Converting from Forms to APEX

does anyone have a formula or methodology for estimating the time it takes to convert (or recreate) a Form to APEX?

Not really possible, since you are going to have to do some re-designing when you move from Forms to APEX. Just remember, the conversion tool will do some of the work, but you are REALLY better off re-developing your Forms app in APEX then converting..
Thank you,
Tony Miller
Webster, TX
On the road of life...There are 'windshields', and there are 'bugs'
(splat!)
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