COPA Segmentation

Hi all,
I have a query regarding Sales Order wise segmentation in CO-PA.
- Is it feasible to have sales order wise profitability analysis?
- If no then why?
Thanks
que

Hello,
Thanks for your reply....
I had read in a few COPA related documents that Sales order should not be made a Profitability Segment in your PA. I want to know exactly why ?
My client want to do PA on the basis of Customers, Regions and Sales Order.
I want to know is it a "wise" decision to have PA according to Sales order? I am new to COPA.
Thanks and regards
Shantanu

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