COPCA - distribute cost estimate via ALE

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone has experience distributing cost estimate data via ALE, using COPCA IDOC?!
What are the neccessary set up and consderation?
Thanks,
Alice

Hi
Thanks for your note.
Please advise me on the financial statement version, as well.
The reason for investigating this is to find out standard way to distribute/extract FSV out of SAP for both nodes of FSV and assignment of the GL accounts to the nodes.
If you could give me some hint, i would be more grateful.
Kind regards
taro

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Can't delete the cost estimate via CKR1

Hi,
We have one material. We can't delete the cost estimate via CKR1. It is only warning. It is no error log. The other material cost estimate can delete normally. I check the material master I can't find the issue. The following is the warning message. Could you pls help check it? Whate factor will effect the cost estimate deletion? Thanks.
==========================
Deleting current standard cost estimates can cause inconsistencies
Message no. CK 669
Diagnosis
u2022 If you delete a current standard cost estimate, the fields for
the cost estimate are set to zero in the material master record. If you
use the material ledger, the standard prices in the material ledger
master data are also deleted when you delete the current standard cost
estimate. The material master record for the material thus does no
longer contains a current standard price from a standard cost estimate.
u2022 If you delete an active standard cost estimate, you can no
longer determine scrap, work in process and variations for previous
periods.
u2022 In certain countires, it is a legal requirement to maintain
records of standard pricing. Therefore, you should check whether you
are obliged by law to keep records of your standard cost estimates.
Please also contact the relevant accounting and inventory management
departments.
==========================
Best Regards
Park Han

Hi,
The deletion of Current standard cost estimate should be followed with some rules of the IFRS.
If you want to change the standard cost you can do the change,If you want to delete the standard cost of material then it will set the price of material to zero.If the material ledger also activate then it will make the Moving average price & standard cost of the material to zero.
So follow the Law of the country & Discus with Audit team &then delete the curent standard cost estimate of the material.
Regards,
Raj

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My question is regarding ALE.
How to distribute Purchase Orders via ALE without maintaining output control in individual PO
or is there any transaction to maintain output control in Bulk..?
Thanks for Your help...
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Govardhan Reddy

Hi,
PO data comes in Transacational data, for this type of information...we can use Message control for generating IDOCs.
Step 1.
Goto NACE - select Application Area "EF"- dbl click the output type button & select the output type of your requirement here and click on processing routines in left side pane.
you will be taken to next screen...
select
Medium : ALE
Program: RSNASTED
Form routine: ALE_PROCESSING & Save it
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goto partner profiles T.code: we20
select the partner type ...LS
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application area: EF
message type: output type you selected in NACE transaction
and
processing routine: ME10
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Hi All,
If i have a standard cost product that is a component in another BoM, will the parent BoM have to have a cost roll up done if/when there is a change to the component BoM?
any help is appreciated.
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Hi Ram,
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Digits Of Significance/Rounding Issue-Cost Estimate With Quantity Structure

I have an Excel based BOM which includes Material (Yield) Qty, plus a scrap factor. This adjusted yield is then multiplied by the Unit Price to get the Extended Amount. An example from my file is:
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In SAP, I created a BOM via CS01 with this material as a line item, 1.824 as the qty, UOM is FT2 (sq ft) and I added a Assembly Scrap of 4% with the Net ID indicator checked. When I create a cost estimate via CK11N (in our SAP AFS 6.0 sandbox), the itemization for this material reads: qty of 1.897, total cost of 3.48 USD.
The math all works, but the resultant USD amount in SAP is short by .003 USD. I realize that USD currency is configured to only 2 decimal places, and that is fine. But, I thought that the calculations that costing was doing was retaining all the digits of significance past the 2 decimal places being shown, rather than rounding off to 2 decimal places. There are 24 materials in this BOM, and the total delta between my Excel sheet total (17.647 USD) and my SAP estimate (17.63 USD) is 0.017 USD. If I look at each item, the cumulative difference is due to each line rounding off to 2 decimal places.
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Hi
To achieve you have to run the costing run twice once normally.
Secondly you create an alternate BOM 2 by having the same alternate BOM 1 and remove the 2 materials which you dont want.
Execute the costing run, provide the details required in the Costing data screen, press enter, go to the Qty structure screen give the details of the Alternate BOM 2 in the BOM details and execute the costing run.
Save the cost estimate, which would be have been costed without the values of two materials as you wanted by using the alternate BOM 2.
Then use CK24, select the option "other prices" to release the cost estimate for the commercial price only by selecting the indicator of commercial price 3 only.
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CK24 Cost Estimate Release Log wrong message variables returned.

We are testing our upgrade to ECC 6.04 from 4.7. I've created a cost estimate via CK11N. I then use CK24 to mark and release the cost estimate. At the completion of the release, a log is returned with the correct price change document and the correct number of materials and cost estimates updated. I then select the green arrow to go back a screen. It then shows an ALV grid with the new cost estimate std cost, price unit, and price change document. If I select the log icon from this screen, it shows me a price change document that is several months old and the associated number of materials and cost estimates updated. If I go back to CK24 screen and select log, it also will return this several month old document. Has anyone else experienced this inconsistancy and know how to resolve?

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do you see any way to distribute the moving average price via ALE? It is inside the material master IDoc but it won't update in the receiving system.
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Hi,
We are in developing phase for Product costing for coal mine project ,
we have raise coal material with Non component BOM , and Routing is only one activity with 400- Raised Coal Qty-MT ,
We upload the plan with Production cost center -activity type and cost element ( as per cost component -we have 10 cost component as per below )
RM - Blasting
Production Overhead
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we done the plan for Amount and Qty by KP06,KP26 and update plan price but system not calculate the cost component splitting in cost estimate as per planning while only one item showing for all cost to Production Overhead cost component
Production Overhead cost component which assign the secondary cost element which is assign to activity type 400
can any one help me to how we can resolve this issue
Please find attached document

Hi,
Here I am providing the necessity and importance of splitting structure, will share the configuration steps once you go through the following and get the comfort level.
                  Expense Analysis and Splitting in Manufacturing Cost Centers
Introduction In SAP Cost center work as a cost responsibility center, where all the expenses and cost are stored and analyzed for the purpose of management decision making.
The cost could be fixed or variable in nature. The difference between variable and fixed costs can be made in various ways in product costing in CO module.
Fixed costs represent the static costs incurred by the organization, which doesn’t change on the basis on manufacturing activities, which remain constant irrespective of production activities like rent for the premises, salaries of office staff etc.
On the other hand, variable cost varies based on the level of production activities; if production activities increase then variable cost also increased like electricity consumes raw material charges etc.
However all the variable cost doesn’t vary in direct proportion by quantity of goods produced.
In this document will try to define; how the Expenses analysis and splitting of cost done in manufacturing cost centers.
From controlling prospective, fixed cost remain constant regardless of operating activities, but if these factor changes, variable cost will fluctuate.
Basically raw material costs represent variable cost, but in this document main focused will be given to distinguish fixed and variable activity cost.
The segregation between fixed and variable cost is optional and is derived from the configuration and master data configured in cost center accounting and overhead accounting.
Activity Price:
There are different methods that could be used in cost center accounting to determine the activity price. The simple way is the manually enter “Fixed” and “Variable” Activity cost (KP26).
However there are other methods used in Cost center Planning and Budgeting that automatically calculate the fixed and variable activity price.
Here the focused will be given on Planning and Budgeting activity and automatic calculation of plan activity rate in cost center.
This method aggregate planned costs by cost element and capacity by plan unit to calculate the activity price.
Activity independent costs are segregated among different activities based on Splitting Structure, while activity dependent cost directly used for the purpose of variable activity rate calculation.
Fixed Activity Cost:
In product costing all those cost, which doesn’t vary based on the activities in manufacturing cost will represent fixed cost.
In a manufacturing cost centers there may be two or more activities performed.
To calculate the activities rate, the fixed costs are distributed to various activities on the basis of Splitting Structure defined for cost center.
Variable Activity Cost:
Variable activity cost, which directly depend upon the activity type and fluctuate based on increase or decrease in manufacturing activities. In SAP variable activity cost are directly linked to the respective activity.
Activity Prices: Fixed and Variable Split
In Cost Center Accounting dividing the cost between Fixed and Variable requires appropriate split to be made in the cost entered for the activity. The process is described below:
i. Variable cost would be planned at activity level and expenses should be maintained at cost element in the manufacturing cost center by assigning activity and cost element combination.
In other word, the expenses should be planned on Activity type at the time of primary cost planning (KP06).
Then the variable activity rates are calculated on Total cost planned at Activity divided by Total number of activity planned at that cost center (i.e. capacity in KP26)
ii. Fixed cost would be planned at independent of activity type. These costs are maintained in KP06 at cost element level on manufacturing cost center.
Then the fixed costs are distributed on various activity types on the basis of Splitting structure defined at OKEW.
In Splitting Structure we define the rules, how the fixed cost will be distributed to Activities. For the purpose of this document, considering split of fixed cost on the basis of Capacity maintained in KP26.
Regards,
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Sales order cost estimate

hi,
While saving the sales order cost estimate its getting the GL account from GBB-ZG0.
as we assigned Balance sheet account its asking the cost element.
can you please explain what is link to get the gl from GBB-ZGO, can we change this to pick from GBB-VBR.
Thanks,
Sudha

Hi,
Are you are working with unvaluated special stock ? In this case, the system is looking for a consumption account via the account assignment category. For example if you are using requirement class ZPJ which uses account assignment category Q. In account assignment Q, you entered account modification VBR. Therefore, the system is looking for an account via the keys GBB / VBR.
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Consingment Flow: Vendor ship these items against standard PO at zero price. At the consumption pricing is captured from Purchase info records.
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I 1000 CK 037 Lot size 1 EA taken from costing view
I 1000 CK 776 No valid source of supply found for material plant 1000
E 1000 CK 465 No price could be determined for material/batch / plant 1000
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Re: create material cost estimate with ck11n without

hi gurus,
i need to do create material cost estimate with ck11n without cost result but before i need to check the BOM with material component 11111, and also instruct me how to correct maintain BOM list to get the standard cost
if anybody do the same scenoria giveme your golden inputs
thanks in advance,
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Hi,
As note 351835 explains, calculation needs an inforecord to calculate prices from purchasing. Prices from outline agreements are generally not taken into account. According to note 499699, the system may consider entries in the source but it will ignore entered agreements (before this correction, any source list entries with agreement were ignored).
Prices from agreements could only be considered either via a modification or by using the user exit for material valuation (COPCP005).
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Raw Material Cost Estimate - No split between cost component

Dears,
I need to execute a material cost estimate considering the Purchasing Info Record (PIR) where 3 different conditions are present:
1) PB00
2) FRB1
3) RUC1
The scope is:
- linking PB00 to cost component 1
- linking FRB1 to cost component 2
- linking RUC1 to cost component 3
Cost components are already created.
I did following steps:
- creation PIR with these 3 conditions (transaction ME11)
PB00 10,00 EUR @ 1 KG
FRB1 2,00 EUR @ 1 KG
RUC1 3,00 EUR @ 1 KG
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FRB1 linked to FRB1
RUC1 linked to RUC1
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Pl verify following two things -
Check valuation variant.
Strategy sequence should have 'L - Price from purchasing info-record' and Sub-strategy should be 'A Quotation price via condition table' or 'B PO price via condition table'.
OKYO setting should have valuation variant associated with your costing variant, along with other details (dont leave that field blank).
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Ours is an Manufacturing organisation & we have a requirement of report showing machine and labor time as per part wise & cost center wise. We need to run the report before saving standard cost estimate [CK11N] in order to see the part wise or cost center wise discrepancies in machine and labor time. If any one could help in creating such report in SAP it will be of great help.
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Hi Varsha,
you can jump from CK11N to a own report by
Menu Function 'Costs -> User Exit Display'
Cost Report 1 / 2 / 3
The own report can be implemented via (SMOD) enhancement SAPLXCKA
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some example coding is provided for the exit.
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Whenever we save the billing document, an outbound idoc is triggered via ALE. The logic for the data to be included in the idoc is written in a customized function module.
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ALE IDOC
Sending System(Outbound ALE Process)
Tcode SALE - for
a) Define Logical System
b) Assign Client to Logical System
Tcode SM59-RFC Destination
Tcode BD64 - Create Model View
Tcode BD82 - Generate partner Profiles & Create Ports
Tcode BD64 - Distribute the Model view
Message Type MATMAS
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Receiving System(Inbound ALE )
Tcode SALE - for
a) Define Logical System
b) Assign Client to Logical System
Tcode SM59-RFC Destination
Tcode BD64 - Check for Model view whether it has distributed or not
Tcode BD82 -- Generate partner Profiles & Create Ports
Tcode BD11 Getting Material Data
Tcode WE05 - Idoc List for inbound status codes
ALE IDOC Steps
Sending System(Outbound ALE Process)
Tcode SALE ?3 for
a) Define Logical System
b) Assign Client to Logical System
Tcode SM59-RFC Destination
Tcode BD64 - Create Model View
Tcode BD82 - Generate partner Profiles & Create Ports
Tcode BD64 - Distribute the Model view
This is Receiving system Settings
Receiving System(Inbound ALE )
Tcode SALE - for
a) Define Logical System
b) Assign Client to Logical System
Tcode SM59-RFC Destination
Tcode BD64 - Check for Model view whether it has distributed or not
Tcode BD82 -- Generate partner Profiles & Create Ports
Tcode BD11 Getting Material Data
Tcode WE05 - Idoc List for inbound status codes
Message Type MATMAS
Tcode BD10 - Send Material Data
Tcode WE05 - Idoc List for watching any Errors
1)a Goto Tcode SALE
Click on Sending & Receiving Systems-->Select Logical Systems
Here Define Logical Systems---> Click on Execute Button
go for new entries
1) System Name : ERP000
Description : Sending System
2) System Name : ERP800
Description : Receiving System
press Enter & Save
it will ask Request
if you want new request create new Request orpress continue for transfering the objects
B) goto Tcode SALE
Select Assign Client to Logical Systems-->Execute
000--> Double click on this
Give the following Information
Client : ERP 000
City :
Logical System
Currency
Client role
Save this Data
Step 2) For RFC Creation
Goto Tcode SM59-->Select R/3 Connects
Click on Create Button
RFC Destination Name should be same as partner's logical system name and case sensitive to create the ports automatically while generating the partner profiles
give the information for required fields
RFC Destination : ERP800
Connection type: 3
Description
Target Host : ERP000
System No:000
lan : EN
Client : 800
User : Login User Name
Password:
save this & Test it & RemortLogin
3)
Goto Tcode BD64 -- click on Change mode button
click on create moduleview
short text : xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Technical Neme : MODEL_ALV
save this & Press ok
select your just created modelview Name :'MODEL_ALV'.
goto add message type
Model Name : MODEL_ALV
sender : ERP000
Receiver : ERP800
Message type :MATMAS
save & Press Enter
4) Goto Tcode BD82
Give Model View : MODEL_ALV
Partner system : ERP800
execute this by press F8 Button
it will gives you sending system port No :A000000015(Like)
5) Goto Tcode BD64
seelct the modelview
goto >edit>modelview-->distribute
press ok & Press enter
6)goto Tcode : BD10 for Material sending
Material : mat_001
Message Type : MATMAS
Logical System : ERP800
and Execute
7)goto Tcode : BD11 for Material Receiving
Material : mat_001
Message Type : MATMAS
and Execute --> 1 request idoc created for message type Matmas
press enter
Here Master Idoc set for Messge type MATMAS-->press Enter
1 Communication Idoc generated for Message Type
this is your IDOC
Change Pointers
I know how to change the description of a material using ALE Change Pointers.
I will give the following few steps
1) Tcode BD61---> check the change pointers activated check box
save and goback.
2) Tcode BD50---> check the MATMAS check box save and comeback.
3) Tcode BD51---> goto IDOC_INPUT_MATMAS01 select the checkbox save and comeback.
4) Tcode BD52---> give message type : matmas press ok button.
select all what ever you want and delete remaining fields.
save & come back.
5) 5) go to Tcode MM02 select one material and try to change the description and save it
it will effects the target systems material desciption will also changes
6) goto Tcode SE38 give program Name is : RBDMIDOC and Execute
give Message type : MATMAS and Executte
ALE/IDOC Status Codes/Messages
01 Error --> Idoc Added
30 Error --> Idoc ready for dispatch(ALE Service)
then goto SE38 --> Execute the Program RBDMIDOC
29 Error --> ALE Service Layer
then goto SE38 --> Execute the Program RSEOUT00
03 Error --> Data Passed to Port ok
then goto SE38 --> Execute the Program RBDMOIND
12 Error --> Dispatch ok
Inbound Status Codes
50 Error --> It will go for ALE Service Layer
56 Error --> Idoc with Errors added
51 Error --> Application Document not posted
65 Error --> Error in ALE Service Layer
for 51 or 56 Errors do the following steps
goto WE19 > give the IDOC Number and Execute>
Press on Inbound function Module
for 65 Error --> goto SE38 --> Execute the Program RBDAPP01 then your getting 51 Error
cheers,
Hema.

COPCA - distribute cost estimate via ALE

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