Cost value for third party sales order scenario

Greetings, I have a cost question involving the Third Party Sales Order (Item category TAS).
At billing (VF01), the cost being picked up by the system are the value from the PO (PBXX condition type). I would like the system to pick up the entire COGS value (inclusive of freight values) posted at MIGO.
Ex. If Purchase price is 100 and freight is 20, I want 120 (the COGS value) to be shown in the cost field. It currently shows 100.
The steps I follow are
1) Create OR sales order (item category TAS)
2) Create PO referencing PR
3) Goods Receipt D 120 COGS/ C 100 GRIR /C 20 freight
4) Outbound Delivery (Confirmation only)
5) Billing (Costs showing 100?!)
Again, only the PBXX condition type value (From MM Calculation Schema) is being picked up.
How can I get the system to pick up the freight value as well?
Regards
Ken

Hi,
If you bring the Freight condition after PBXX and include in the net value, your problem will be solved. so it will be 120 in MIGO, MIRO, Dellivery and VPRS in billing.
We have the same situation and its working fine for us.
Thanks
Krishna.

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As u mentioned, at the point of sales order creation the price does gets picked up from the Material Master.
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