Costing variant in Controlling & Production
I want a clarification on the following:
I have create a costing variant (ABC1) in Controlling and I am using this for standard costing run.
But lately I found that from PP side, they are using another variant PPP1 for plan and PPP2 for actual.
But when I see the order costs, the target costs are done as per my costing variant ABC1. How this is happening ? Is it simplly because I am selecting this variant in the CK40n ? I am not able to see the variant ABC1 in the variant list available in the PP configuration screen. Have I done correctly ? Or I should have created the variant ABC1 in the PP Configuration Screen (tcode OPL1)
Hi NIkita
Generally these Costing variants in OPL1 is also created by us and not PP guys. You also need to default it at Production order type to avoid much issues.
You cannot use the costing type of ABC1 as that was for product cost estimate, you can use the standard one for it available.
Valuantion variant can be reused.
If you go to set up through spro and go step by step as you did for ABC1, you will get a better picture.
Best Regards
Vijay Purohit
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Valuation with material cost estimate: error with product "117122"
Hi people,
We have the error:
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Valuation with material cost estimate: error with product "117122"
Diagnosis
In Profitability Analysis (CO-PA), the system tried to valuate a line item using the current standard cost estimate.
In order to determine the current plan period, the system needs to read the valuation segment of the material master.
The system has found that the current plan period is not filled forproduct "117122" in plant "UBE1".
We have the follow configuration in trans.: KE40:
. Determine material cost estimate
. Transf. Standard Cost Estimate
. Costing Variant
. Control Data for Standard Cost Estimate
. Period Indicator = "Current Standard Cost Estimate acc. to entry in mat master
. Addiitonal data CO-PC
. Transfer cost estimate in controlling area currency "activated"
We think the reason about our error is because the field above is activated and some configuration more is necessary for this case. For examplo: Trans.: OKYW and this one was not configurated yet.
Do you know what happend?
If we need to configure some transation, or sonly process the cost estimate?
Thanks,
Rosana.Hello Guido
Thank you very much for your return.
It is happenning in a Client that some people are doing the configuration.
Before we didin't have in KE40, the fiel "Transfer cost estimate in controlling area currency" activated.
And now, the people activate that in this new Client and I don't know the impact about that.
I think we have to make the configuration in OKYW.
The other transation you told me, we don't have any information.
Could you tell me some other idea what happend?
Message error is just "Message no. KE350"
Abou claculate the cost:
It was calculated by trans.: CK11N for future planning and the real wasn't not possible to release because this material already have moviments.
Could you tell us is there is some thing more to do?
Thanks,
Rosana. -
Hi,
Can anyone please let me know what is process for cost estimate for the product in SAP. Just give me a thought in simple terms.....
1. How system will estimate the costs?
2. In which cases we should settle the costs?
3. What is the process to settle the cost through internal orders/gl's etc.,?
4. What are the main requirements for this process?
Please give us your thoughts on the above mentioned queries...
Regards
KrishnaCost estimate for a material is done by the system through product cost planning.
You have to define the following:
A cost component structure which splits the cost into different components as per your requirement
A valuation variant which decides the various factors such as material pricing, activity pricing, sub-contracting, external activity prices, etc.
A costing variant which controls the parameters for a costing run which helps to update the prices in the material master.
a production run is carried out for a production order, process order, product cost collector etc. Periodically these objects are settled to the material in question. -
Preli cost compo struc of production orders to sales orders -Non valuated
Hi experts
We use Non valuated sales order cost/settlement and assembly order processing. So production order is created from sales order and prel cost estimate is created in the production order. Now we notice that the cost component struc in production order is not copied into sales order. Only the EK02 is copied with total cost.
How to bring cost compo struc from production order to sales order ?
This may be a special cost estimate with costing and Is it possible to bring cost compo struc to copa record type A or F.
I know standard cost compo mapping in copa but I could not see the costing variant used in production order in copa master data configuration.
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KTIf the sales order is not a cost object, you cannot cost in it, and you can therefor also not see the cost component split.
When you sell the material, you can pull through the cost component to PA, via the material master using the COPA valuation strategy. However, only the info for the material in the sales doc line item.
You don't link to a costing variant, you link using the above valuation strategy and the costing key. The costing variant sits inside the costing key. -
Costing Variant for refurbhsiment order
Hi,
I have settting up refurbishment order. will the costing variant would be different for ref.order from normal maintenance order?
Please advise!
Regards,
MeghanaHi,
Costing variants contain control parameters for all aspects of costing.
The costing variant forms the link between the application and
Customizing, since cost estimates are created and saved with reference
to a costing variant.
The costing variant controls how costing is executed, such as:
o Whether the costing results are planned costs or actual costs
o Which prices are used to valuate materials, internal activities, and
external activities
o How overhead is calculated
A costing variant includes the following groups of settings:
o Costing type
o Valuation variant
o Number range assignment
to know more about Costing part , dicuss with your CO consultant,
try OIOF tocheck for the costing variant assigned to Refurbishment order type. Remember Refurbishment order will be settled to the Material itself not to the Cost Center
Regards
Prakash -
I require a clarification:
We define costing variant for standard cost estimation. We are in Process Order scenario. Likewise, should we have to use a costing variant for actual product estimation ? We want to have actual cost from the Product costing to the COPA from the cost component structure.Hi
I think you are mixing up 2 things
1. One is costing variant for actual product cost estimate - As said by Declan you need to deifne this in OPL1 and assign it to your prod order type
2. Std cost estimate in COPA: For this you create a costing key and assign your costing variant (that you used for std cost estimate in CK11N/CK40N).... You assign this costing key to material types, etc and map your cost component structure to value fields.... With this, your std cost estinate gets trf to COPA during SD billing
Regards
Ajay M -
Costing variant and production version
We have two costing variants "C" (used to create current cost estimates) and "F" (Used to create Future cost estimate). All of the production versions in the system have a validity date of 9999. Is there a way to tell the system to use one production version when costing using Variant C and another version when costing is done using variant F.
Or if that is not possibel than how do we use one production version in 2011 while recosting current standards and another production version in 2012. (Remember the production version that we are using currently in 2011 has a validity date of 9999)
RegardsHi
In your Costing Variant - You have a tab callled "Qty Structure Control".... Here you can specify BOM Determination and Routing Selection id.... i.e. If the BOM / Routing attached to the prod version can be assigned a specific BOM Determination Class and Routing Selection id, it can work
OR ELSE
While doing CK11N, you can manually specify the Prod Version in the "Qty Struct" Tab..... Create an LSMW for CK11N and you can do a mass costing like CK40N.... CK40N does not have this option of specifying Prod Version
I would prefer 2nd option
Br, Ajay M -
Product Costing - Two Costing Variants - Mark and Release In Same Company Code Same Period
Hi All,
We are currently handling a CO-PC project where client has requirement to use two different costing variants in the same period in the same company code. SAP standard does not allow use of two costing variants in the same period for the same company. We can have only One Costing Variant per Co Code for Marking / Releasing Standard Price.
There are some materials in Plant 1 or Plant 2 for which cost estimates using costing variant ABC1 calculated and than prices are marked and released (CK24), now same materials are received in Plant3 where mixed costing is used and thus need to have cost estimates from second costing variant ABC3 (second costing variant) marked and released. Object is to have ABC3 cost estimates in material master standard price field, but SAP does not allow to mark and release for second costing variant in the same period for same co code as ABC1 variant already ran for plant1 or Plant2 under same company code,therefore, business is not able update ABC3 prices in Standard price of the material master.
Purpose of this second costing variant mark and release run is that for some materials business would like to implement costing at Plant3 level also, where they get same materials from different production sites (Plants). At Plant3 level, business is using mixed costing where the standard price is a weighted Average standard price, taking the different production sites standard cost into consideration in combination of the volume split between those production sites.
Did any one worked on this kind of requirement? Is there any SAP standard way to handle? Or this will need some ABAP enhancement?
Kindly advise.Hi Atul
1. You dont need separate Valuation Variant in Plant 3
2. Use Costing Variant ABC1 and ensure that it has the needed Valuation Strategies in Valuation Variant
Allow Complete Transfer in the Transfer Control i.e. Cross Plant Transfer in it
3. Assign the Qty Str Type you have used in ABC3, to ABC1.. i.e. In the Costing Version, assign the Qty Str Type to the Costing Type and Valuation Variant from ABC1
After this, do CK11N and CK24 for Plant 1
Then do CK11N and CK24 for Plant 3, using ABC1.. You dont need to change anythiing before doing CK11N for Plant 3
To make it simple, you can use any one of ABC1 or ABC3 in both the plants.. You only need to ensure that Valuation Variant, TRansfer Control are set up as desired
Br. Ajay M -
Creation of a new costing variant to cost production orders
Hi all,
Currently the business is only able to cost a vehicleu2019s production order at the standard cost value which is determined at the start of the year.
During the year a number of the purchasing values will be updated with a new contract price, this increase will not be reflected in the standard cost until the end of the year.
The business would like a new costing variant which will cost an already created vehicle in SAP by its production order at the u201CCurrent Costu201D (current purchasing info record value).
It will need to be calculated in the following way:
u2022Purchased material - at purchase cost from info record (see below for applicable exchange rate).
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u2022No allowance for CPI. [WHAT_ DOES_CPI_MEAN_?]
u2022Exchange rate: ideally, fields are provided to input exchange rate. If this is not possible then apply current monthu2019s exchange;
u2022FRAu2019s - current rate from the info record.
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u2022The output of the report will need to be similar to the layout of a production order but with only the current value displayed.
We have some problems to understand this request: we don't know the transaction which is used by the users to costificate a production order and what does it mean "CPI". We are not sure on the feasibility of the costing variant requested because it must consider both actual costs and standard costs.
It should costificate in this way:
(Actual Cost of Row Material * Bom's standard qty) + (Standard price * Standard production time (in the routings).
Could you help us?
Many thanks to all of you, best regards.
AlanisYou can create a new costing variant with a valuation variant that points to inforecords for material prices. Go to OKKN t-code and create the required configuration and start using the new costing variant to measure the current cost of making vehicles.
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Costing Variant & Prod Cost Collector
I am in the scenario of period costing with a product collector. Please guide me on the following:
While configuring for costing/valuation variant, I find that we create a costing / valuation variant under 'Material cost estimate with Qty structure' and also under Cost object controlling - Product Cost Collector, 'Check costing variant for Product Cost Collector' & 'Check valuation variant for Product Cost collector'.
Do need to configure a costing variant and valuation variant under these paths, viz. under Standard Cost estimate with Qty Structure & also Product Cost collector ?
Please give your comments ASAPclosed
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Maintaining a costing version in a costing variant
Hi,
I am creating a costing variant for standard mat. estimation. I have to maintain a costing version.
I don't know how to set all the parameters in costing version in OKYD. Will I have to set variant for transfer price, exchange rate and quantity structure?
Why do all these parameters show under and not beside the name of the element in the Assignment Tab of costing variant.
Best wishes,
karolHi karol
For standard costing purpose - costing version 01 is defualt version offered by SAP.
With costing version u can create different / various cost estimates created for SFG or FG material
You need to enter version 01 in customizing control paramters for costing variant - viz, in valuation variant, costing type etc
The need to create diff costing versions depend on the requirements.
Ex. Exchange rate is determined thru valuation variant, If you wish to have diff exchange rate for costing - u can enter diff rate and define it in diff costing version
So, when u do costing for a material with two version u will have diff costs
Version 1 - say 100 USD
Version 2 - Say 120 USD with diff exchange rate defined
Again in most of the implementations we dont come across using diff versions. These are considered only when base version costing is stabilized and controls are put in place for entire product cost cycle
System offers quite a lot of options, but everything cannot be chosen at a time to evaluate. My suggestion would be stabilize with the base and then look for these options.
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Costing Variant Creation in spro
Hi,
Please let me know the creation of costing variant in spro.Need configuration steps for it.
Regards,
A.S.kUmARHi there
Please see
Transaction: OKKN
Or
IMG-> Controlling-> Product cost controlling -> product cost planning ->material cost estimate with quantity structure ->define cost variants
You can create your own or copy from an existing costing variant.
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Louise -
Costing variant/valuation variant
dear gurus,
can any body explain the costing variants,valuation variant,costing sheet,costing type,how it is integrated in production order in controlling tab.can any body explains the customizing part of product costing and overview.
if any body is having the product costing material please send to [email protected]
please through some light on product costing
-gideHi,
Every cost estimate we create is based on the costing variant.
In the costing variant we define the control parameters and settings for costing
Settings contains info such as prices that will be used to cost the materials and activities
Control parameters are used for the automatic determination of of qty str ie Bom and Routing
Every costing variant contains a valuation variant and a costing type , date control , qty str control.
Valuation variant:
Valuation variant defines the price with which the material and activities are valuated
determines 1.which price is taken from material masterrecord to calculate the material cost
2.
which price is taken from cost center accounting to calculate the costs for internal activities
3. which price is taken from purchasing info rec to calculate the the costs for ext activities / subcontracting
4. which costing sheet is used to calculate the over head costs
Costing type:
costing type defines the valuation view to be costed and defines the purpose of costing.
Date control :
controls the validity of the cost estimste , qty str date.
Valuation class:
For material costing the valuation class controls the cost element to which the planned cost of the material are assigned and the cost element under which the actual costs are updated when the material produced is delivered to stock
Valuation category:
specified the criteria according to which partial stocks are distinguished from one another
Price control indicator:
the price control indicator specifies whether the stock of the material is valuated with standard price or moving avg price
costing sheet:
The costing sheet links all the functions for overhead calculation.
In the costing sheet we determine the following
1.The direct costs to which the over head is applied
2.The condition under which the over head is applied
3.Whether the over head is applied as a percentage basis or on a qty basis
4.The amt of overhead percentage
5.The validity period of the over head
6.Which object is credited ( order , cost center) and which cost element in the case of actual posting
We enter the costing sheet in the valuation variant in customising
Regards,
nandha -
Overhead cost not coming in production order
Hello Friends,
I have assigned overhead group to material master in costing 1 view.Overhead group is assigned to Overhead key and valuation area of mine (plant).Even i have defined overhead rates i.e, percentage overhead for my company code.Then i calculated the overhead using KGI2.It shows no error in log and shows 1 overhead calculated.But when i go inside the production order, it doesn't show the overhead cost in actual cost, why?
Am i wrong in calculating the overhead cost?
Please guide.
Thanking you.Hi,
Your overhead rate has to be assigned to your costing sheet.
Follow the steps below...
1) For your order type check the OTDP (OPL8 t code)
Check your applicable costing variant in "cost accounting tab)
2) In OPL1 t code check the valuation variants (planned and actual) for your costing variant
3) In Okk4 check the costing sheets assigned to your valuation varaint.
4) now check if the overhead key is assigned to your costing sheet in IMG--> controlling
>Product cost controlling>Cost Object Controlling-->Product Cost by Order
>Overhead>Define Costing Sheets. If it is not assigned, then assign it
5) Also check if your overhead key is assigned to your overhead rate. Follow the same path as above. under 'Define Costing Sheets' Costing Sheet: Components-->Define Percentage Overhead Rates.
Now check your scenario again.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Ashok
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