Create Desktop Collection Fails

I have been able to create desktop collections from Win7 VM templates. I created a new template and now when I attempt to create a collection the template export finishes and the creation process errors out with the following message:
On the back end in the event log I see these errors:
Remote Desktop Virtualization Host could not load metadata for the virtual machine named
Windows 7 Enterprise Production Template.
Remote Desktop Virtualization Host could not retrieve a section in the virtual machine
metadata XML file for the virtual machine with the GUID of
0387662E-2EAC-4090-9FA7-AA5D561737D3.
Virtual machine GUID: 0387662E-2EAC-4090-9FA7-AA5D561737D3
Hresult: 0x80070490
Can someone point me in the right direction to what is wrong with my template?

Hi,
Thank you for posting in Windows Server Forum.
From the error description it seems that RD Virtualization host can’t load the data for virtual machine template. Apart If you're using Windows 7 as the template VM, it needs to be Windows 7 SP1 and you should update the integration components on the VM before
you sysprep it. However for a try if possible then try to reinstall and verify.
You can refer this article to reconfigure and check the result.
Hope it helps!
Thanks.
Dharmesh Solanki
TechNet Community Support

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NMProcess:      at weblogic.nodemanager.server.NMServerConfig.getNetworkInfoList(NMServerConfig.java:481)
NMProcess:      at weblogic.nodemanager.server.NMServerConfig.getConfigProperties(NMServerConfig.java:545)
NMProcess:      at weblogic.nodemanager.server.NMServer.<init>(NMServer.java:154)
NMProcess:      at weblogic.nodemanager.server.NMServer.main(NMServer.java:375)
NMProcess:      at weblogic.NodeManager.main(NodeManager.java:31)
NMProcess: Stopped draining NMProcess
NMProcess: Stopped draining NMProcess
Successfully launched the Node Manager.
The Node Manager process is running independent of the WLST process.
Exiting WLST will not stop the Node Manager process. Please refer
to the Node Manager logs for more information.
The Node Manager logs will be under C:\FusionMW\wlserver_10.3\common\nodemanager
Node Manager starting in the background
Excerpt from nodemanager.log which is created at <WL_HOME>\common\nodemanager:
<Jul 29, 2011 7:21:31 PM> <INFO> <Loading domains file: C:\FusionMW\wlserver_10.3\common\nodemanager\nodemanager.domains>
<Jul 29, 2011 7:21:35 PM> <INFO> <Loading identity key store: FileName=C:/FusionMW/WLSERV~1.3/server\lib\DemoIdentity.jks, Type=jks, PassPhraseUsed=true>
<Jul 29, 2011 7:21:35 PM> <WARNING> <Node manager configuration properties file 'C:\FusionMW\wlserver_10.3\common\nodemanager\nodemanager.properties' not found. Using default settings.>
<Jul 29, 2011 7:21:35 PM> <INFO> <Saving node manager configuration properties to 'C:\FusionMW\wlserver_10.3\common\nodemanager\nodemanager.properties'>
<Jul 29, 2011 7:21:35 PM> <SEVERE> <Fatal error in node manager server>
java.lang.NullPointerException
     at java.util.Hashtable.containsKey(Hashtable.java:314)
     at weblogic.nodemanager.server.NMServerConfig.initNetworkInfoList(NMServerConfig.java:491)
     at weblogic.nodemanager.server.NMServerConfig.getNetworkInfoList(NMServerConfig.java:481)
     at weblogic.nodemanager.server.NMServerConfig.getConfigProperties(NMServerConfig.java:545)
     at weblogic.nodemanager.server.NMServer.<init>(NMServer.java:154)
     at weblogic.nodemanager.server.NMServer.main(NMServer.java:375)
     at weblogic.NodeManager.main(NodeManager.java:31)
After this it hangs for a long time before finally coming up with Node Manager Server Timed Out error and finally the Creating Domain step fails.
One thing that I have noticed is that whenever it tries to create the nodemanager.properties or write to it it encounters this error and hence the nodemanager.properties file is also not getting generated.
I have ensured that there are no spaces in the TEMP and TMP paths. I even tried creating and putting the nodemanager.properties file in the location but that too does not work.
Strange part is that when I install Weblogic separately and have nodemanager as a windows service, then with the nodemanager.properties that I created the windows service runs, but the OBIEE installation still fails.
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and regards,
Subho

My problem is "creating domain is failed". I guess that the issue with windows 7 32 bits on laptop doesn't configure and run nodemanager. I tried to start nodemanager but don't work (with weblogic scriptinf tools WST). However, Weblogic run ok but nodemanager is inactive. Also it doesn't create nodemanager.propierties. If I create a file nodemanager.properties (or I copied on directory obiee_home\ws_server_10.3\common\nodemanager) obiee installer configures its parameters pre-configured (if I modify a parameter, the installer modify it a default value and I don't know where is these parameters and its definition).
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I'm going try to run install obiee 11.1.1.5 on windows 7 xp mode.
Important: We need help of oracle experts or Oracle communicates if obiee installs or not on windows 7 32 bits laptop because We have wasted
Thanks if anyone help us!!

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I've created a Personal Desktop collection in Server 2012 R2 and selected "Automatically Manage Virtual Desktops" so machines are created automatically using a template. I've successfully added several Virtual Desktops to the collection,
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Has anyone else noticed the desktop shortcut fail to update after a change to the JNLP with the latest Java 1.6.0 update 18 release?
Here are the steps we've found to replicate the issue on Windows XP, Vista, and Windows 7 using both IE and Firefox:
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When creating a Site collection using Central admin, i am getting the error "One or more types failed to load. Please refer to the upgrade log for more details." . Microsoft.ApplicationServer.Caching.Core dll version on my machine is 1.0.4632 (App
Fabric 1.1).
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Thomas

Hi Thomas,
According to your description, my understanding is that you got an error when you created a site collection in SharePoint 2013.
I found a similar thread with yours, maybe it also was created by you. Anyway ,in the thread, the workaround is Changing the virtual directory web config of CA (Option 1 and 2 mentioned at
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn473937.aspx ) and it worked.
More information, please take a look at:
http://sharepoint.stackexchange.com/questions/111439/error-creating-site-collection-could-not-load-file-or-assembly-microsoft-appl
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Wendy
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