Creative Zen Touch Vs. Mi

I am looking for a new mp3 player to buy, and would like to get a creative one but I am having a few problems, hoping some of you could help me.
On the tocuh version (20gig) is there ANY way that you could make it so you can use it as an external dri've (so you don't have to install the software)? Then, once the battery dies (not discharges but I mean dies) what do you do? On the Ipod you could hack it and put another one in for a much cheaper price than apple offers, but what do you do with the zen touch?
And for the Zen Micro is there a way where you can use it with plain windows explorer (drag and drop).
For someone that has tried both, which would you recommend?
Thank you all for your comments.

Note the headphone jack fiasco has not been confirmed (read below). There is only speculation and hope that someone at Creative has worked out how to turn on the soldering iron.
As for the battery fiasco, Creative have 'officially' said that they intend to release updated firmware this month that should reduce 'sleep/standby mode' from 24 hours to 4. Fingers crossed!
DreL wrote:
how do u tell if u have the fixed batch of zen micros?
[b]Based on information within this forum, the last known hardware revisions has been November 2004. And this revisions was not to the headphone jack, but to the faceplate.
To date, no one can officially confirm if the headphone jack on newer players has been revised. There have been Creative (Phone) Technical Support implying changes have been made to the jack, however this has been verified by a forum moderator to be false. There are however, "ongoing hardware revisions" which you can interpret how you like, but don't appear to impact the headphone jack design/manufacture.
Right now, if you believe the estimated numbers, only a minority of owners are affected. Alternati'vely, those who have opened the Zen Micro will concur the headphone jack is extremely vulnerable due to it's weak connection to the circuit board (which consist of 3 "glued" points). It is only time before this is a growing problem due to the poor design described.
Do you buy a Zen Micro and take the risk or wait until the issue is resolved? The answer really depends on how good you are with a solder gun...

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Hey buddy
same problem with me. The zen got little moist due to rain, after that it froze at the 'Creative screen' that too comes on when i connect it to charger. I disconnected the battery, it worked for a while but it is back to same position now. It dosent responds to resetting pin... nothing happens it is dead. Only when i disconnect battey and connect charger ... give it a big whack it works for a while then hangs again.
Still trying my stuff on it. Otherwise i will format it and reload the firmware later on.
if u get any solution let me know on [email][email protected]][email protected][/url]
thankx

Creative Zen Touch stuck in Recovery M

Bear with me please since my english is not the best, but I'll try to explain my problem as good as I can.
Both me and my girlfriend have Creative Zen Touch mp3-players, and yesterday we were gonna update the firmware on both of them. We went to the Creative support page download-section and downloaded the latest one. When we were gonan install it it gave us the message that all data would be removed and that was fine with us since we already had plans about removing most of the music and replace it with new tunes. But when we were installing the firware it statrted out just fine but then when it said "Player is being rebooted, please wait..." (or something like that) it just was like that for a long time. After 20 minutes my patience ran out and I unplugged my device and tried with my girldfriends instead. Same thing happened with hers so now both our players are stuck in recovery mode with no firmware what so ever in them. I tried installing the firmware once again on both of them but now it can't the firmware just says my device isn't plugged in even though it is and my computer finds it as soon as I plug it in.
I contacted support and they told me to uninstall everything that has to do with the player and also remove Windows Media Player and all of its components. The reinstall the drivers and restart my computer. Then I should wait until my device told me to updtae the firmware to press the language selection on the firmware update. I did all of this but the firmware upadate still says my player isn't connected. This happens with my girldfriends player too, so it can't be any defect on the device.
So right now we're sitting on two mp3 players that are useless since they are stuck in recovery mode with no firmware. Please help me if you can and please keep in mind to not use too difficult english words. Thanks in advance!
Worth mentioning is that I've tried both the old and new firmware updates just to get it going and no one worked.
LukinMessage Edited by Lukinx on 07-7-200706:0 AM

Can't believe no ones answered this, check this thread ttp://forums.creative.com/showthread.php?=94247 then look for Rich's post in the thread, check his link for more info.
Basically uninstall wmp, and it's run time and reboot
Be using XP
try to install creatives latest plays for sure software suite (it will fail)
Don't unplug the player just reboot
Player should be found, ignore all messages of any kind
Go to FW update and double click it
Hopefully breathe a happy sigh of relief.
Creative you really are a bunch of toerags
Message Edited by Del369 on 07-7-200702:23 PM

The Creative Zen Touch Movement: Active Creative Us

Who out there wants a skin for their Creative Zen Touch? Who is tired of the monopoly that Vaja cases has and forces you to buy their horrific case for 70 Big Ones? Who is tired of the Creative Case that is included and is extremely bulky and doesnt even have a screen to see what you are doing? Are you not tired of having to take the Zen Touch of the cases everytime you want to do something? Are you tired of users that have Iri'ver and Apple's Ipod having infinite accessory choices while you are limited to 2 case choices? If your answers to these questions were yes, this is the new movement for you. This movement will bombard companies like Iskin and xSkin with emails asking them to provide a Creative Zen touch alternati've for cases that are protecti've, photogenic, and sleek. This method works because Iskin and xskin want to make $$$ and with more emails they know they will make more money. My Ipod counterparts show off their Ipods and protecti've them with the xskin exo3 which is only 0.7mm thick, and cannot defend my creative zen touch because I have a bulky case that makes it 3 times as big. With a skin, my creative will be protected from scratchs, perfect for style points, and i dont have to take it out of a case everytime I want to change anything. This movement worked on the Iri'ver site where they overloaded the system with emails for Iri'ver skin requests, and 3 months later, Iskin rolls out a skin for the Iri'ver. We can do the same. I encourage you to assist me in this movement so we can bring the Creative Zen Touch to the top of all mp3 players trampling the Ipod and Iri'ver alltogether. Now whos with me? Its time for action because we are the Acti've Creative Zen Touch Users
We are sending emails to these sites
http://www.iskin.com/store/I2feedback.tpl
On this site fill in your name and email and then paste this message (below) into the comment zone:
The Creative Zen Touch Skin Movement
This is the Creative Movement brought to you by Creative Zen Touch users. We have had enough with the horrible cases that are offered to us as choices. We are look to towards you for salvation. We kindly ask that you create a skin for the Creative Zen Touch, our forums are overloaded with request. The market for a skin for the Zen Touch has great potential to grow and we offer you as our first choice to do so. We are tired of the Ipod and Iri'ver users who can show off their sleek mp3 player complimented by a sleek skin and a screen protector. We wish we can do the same. We want to level the playing field for all mp3 players and we are asking you to do so. I have talked to over 80,000 creative zen touch users via the Creative Forum and they are all urging for a skin and are willing to buy it. That is a great potential market you have in front of you. Thank you for your deep consideration. This movement is lead by Creative user dmai7.
- Your Concerned and Ambitious Customer

actually about the skin thing
if u wanna change the skin of your touch you ll have to brake the warranty patch that is over a screw and with it end your warranty time.
for stuff that sticks over the case its alright
and yes there should be more accessories to this thing
have fun

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scorpian007 wrote:
If you have RCA inputs on your stereo, just buy a 3.5mm to 2 RCA cable and connect it that way. If not, buy an FM transmitter, connect it to the headphone jack on your Zen Touch, set it to a channel and then tune into that channel on the stereo's radio.
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ps.
Here's a pic & link too:
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You can buy it at any RadioShack (in America) and in Canada I would assume FutureShop would have it as well as any local electronics store.

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We are sending emails to these sites
http://www.iskin.com/store/I2feedback.tpl
On this site fill in your name and email and then paste this message (below) into the comment zone:
The Creative Zen Touch Skin Movement
This is the Creative Movement brought to you by Creative Zen Touch users. We have had enough with the horrible cases that are offered to us as choices. We are look to towards you for salvation. We kindly ask that you create a skin for the Creative Zen Touch, our forums are overloaded with request. The market for a skin for the Zen Touch has great potential to grow and we offer you as our first choice to do so. We are tired of the Ipod and Iri'ver users who can show off their sleek mp3 player complimented by a sleek skin and a screen protector. We wish we can do the same. We want to level the playing field for all mp3 players and we are asking you to do so. I have talked to over 80,000 creative zen touch users via the Creative Forum and they are all urging for a skin and are willing to buy it. That is a great potential market you have in front of you. Thank you for your deep consideration. This movement is lead by Creative user dmai7.
- Your Concerned and Ambitious Customer

my god, THANK YOU FOR SOMEONE SAYING THIS, man, they got em out there, but only in the UK, and i dont know about you, but i li've in the US and im dying for the exspect skins to be in the us, can SOMEONE please tell me where to get them in the US or someone make them, cmon guys at creative, if they can do it, you sure can

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Hi!
I bought my Creative Zen Touch almost a year ago now. Yesterday my hard dri've went crazy. The sound was a funky rythm, 0 DJ "scrathes" then one more high-pitched sound. In the Rescue menu I try to format the hard dri've and it responds with "Hard dri've problems."
Yes, it has fallen down several times. I don't know what caused it to malfunction this time though. It suddenly just stopped working. It looks like a mess, was bought over internet under the name of a mother of my frien; to make a long story short. I have no warranty :/
So here's what I decided; I opened it up to take a look inside it. Here's what I found:
- One loose battery, too much dirt on the sticky stuff.
- One hard dri've, model: HTC424020F7AT00
And here is my main questions:
- Can I use a 40gb Hitachi dri've in my 20GB Zen Touch? This is just the big brother, so the dri'ves are pretty much the same except storage space. http://tinyurl.com/4yurr
Thanks
- KennethMessage Edited by Kgjersda on 09-6-2005 04:4 PM

Tweaking 'n' Hacking Your Creative Zen Touch 20GB
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If anyone has experience of tweaking/hacking the Creative Zen Touch 20GB or if anyone should come across a similar "how to" guide for upgrading its harddri've (and knows of specific models of compatible .8" hardri'ves) - then please post on this forum.
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Clearly, this is not true.
Despite seeing everywhere that "firmware available via USB from creative.com" the Creative Sleek Photo has no firmware that is available online anywhere and when you ask, everyone from customer support talks to you as if you have 5 heads for even suggesting that it should be available like anything else is.
This IS ridiculous and I too, have no more interest in Creative products despite purchasing my last 2 MP3 players from this brand, I'm done with this mess. It's frustrating beyond belief that a simple fix turns into a huge fiasco all because the company has no real rhyme or reason for failing to offer any support for a product, instead forcing you to send said product in the mail to take weeks for something that otherwise take a few minutes.
Truly absurd.

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(Creative Zen Touch 20GB - Windows Vista6 Hi folks,
My old computer running XP recently gave up on me and I now have a new computer using Vista.
I have lost the cd I got with my Zen Touch as it was over 5 years ago now but it still works perfectly!
I want to set up Creative Media Player on Vista so I can start transferring music again but I have heard that if I download the firmwear I will lose all the songs that are currently stored. I really don't want this to happen as most of my music was contained on my old PC and it will be very hard to locate it all again so if there was a way I could just set up Creative Media Player the same way I had it before, without losing all my current music, that would be great!
Any help much appreciated.
Thanks,
Pob

Pob wrote:
Hi folks,
My old computer running XP recently gave up on me and I now have a new computer using Vista.
I have lost the cd I got with my Zen Touch as it was over 5 years ago now but it still works perfectly!
I want to set up Creative Media Player on Vista so I can start transferring music again but I have heard that if I download the firmwear I will lose all the songs that are currently stored. I really don't want this to happen as most of my music was contained on my old PC and it will be very hard to locate it all again so if there was a way I could just set up Creative Media Player the same way I had it before, without losing all my current music, that would be great!
Any help much appreciated.
Thanks,
Pob
This should get you going? http://mrinternet.wordpress.com/2007...ether-finally/

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Hello Roknoch,
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I was wondering if anyone could answer this for me, and yes, I have the read the FAQ and about Macs and how it isnt officially supported, yada yada
What I would like to know is, I have a PC at home which I will use to transfer music
HOWEVER
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The people on the forum who would respond are customers, like you, being rude to them probably won't encourage them to help.
These two pages contain some useful tips, have you checked these yet?
http://us.creative.com/support/kb/ar...p?l=2&sid=0053
http://us.creative.com/support/kb/ar...p?l=2&sid=9287
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itsVASH,
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