CS2 and Nikon D300 NEF

So, please correct me if I'm wrong but if I understand correctly, those of us that paid good money for CS2 will have to upgrade to CS3 to get support for Nikon D300 camera raw. If true, stuff it and I will switch to NX. Maybe we don't pay enough for PS to expect that support? No wonder people steel Adobe products, there's no respect for honest paying customers.

> I expect support for what I purchased
And, it's been Adobe's policy to support the current shipping versions of Photoshop and provide free updates. Camera Raw 4 for Photoshop CS3 has already been updated 3 times since its release in May. Since Camera Raw 2 shipped in the Fall of 03 (Camera Raw 1 shipped in Feb 03 as a stand alone product), Adobe's policy has been very clear, they will continue shipping camera compatibility and bug fix upgrades for the duration that the version is supported. Support for non-current versions (any kind of support) ends when a new version ships.
The method that Adobe has chosen for backwards compatibility is to release free updates to DNG Converter that will allow versions even as old as Camera Raw 2.4 to be able to access images shot with cameras not yet released. So, if you choose not to upgrade to CS3 (foolish in my opinion because of the major advances) you'll still be able to convert D300 images to DNG and have access to your images in Camera Raw 3.7. (note, there were 7 free updates to Camera Raw 3 over about a 24 month period)
While you might legitimately complain that Adobe has not done a real good job of communicating their policies, they've not made their Camera Raw upgrade policy a secret.
And, no amount of chatter from new camera buyers is likely to make an impact on their upgrade policy.
Anybody doing this for a living would do well to know what the upgrade and support policies of their software is and smart buyers would do well to buy their upgrades EARLY in the new release cycles as opposed to late so that they could maximize the return on their investment. Let's see, $199 (the base upgrade price) of Photoshop CS3 spread out over 18 months (the average cycles between upgrades) works out to about $11/month or about $.37/day. I would say that's a pretty darn cheap cost of doing business.
And, if Photoshop is too much for your liking, Photoshop Elements also supports Camera Raw 4 in Mac Elements 4.01 and Elements 5 & 6 for Windows. I think Elements sells for $99 (or less) although the functionality of Camera Raw in Elements is limited.

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PS CS3, Camera Raw 4.6 Update and Nikon D810 NEF File Reading Issue

Currently Have Photoshop CS3 & Adobe Bridge CS3 2.1.1.9.
According to Adobe, Camera Raw 4.6 supports Nikon D810 NEF files. I have downloaded Camera Raw 4.6 Update. When
I try to open Nikon D810 NEF files, I get Photoshop CS3 error that says
"cannot complete request your because it is not the right kind of
document. These NEF files wont open in Adobe Bridge at all. What am I doing wrong?

Hey,
Before I purchased, let me get your thoughts on another option that just occurred to me which involves:
1)Editing my D810 NEF files in LR 5.6, which I have, then exporting/saving the edited files as JPEGs.
2) Doing any additional editing, as necessary (i.e. that might require layering or selections..etc) , with the JPEGs with Bridge or PS CS3.
This method wont involve any additional software purchase now.. right? Am I missing anything. here? Since my final output to my customers are JPEGs any way, wont this work? Will I be at any disadvantage. Am I missing anything. here?
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Some Nikon D300 NEF files don't appear in Bridge CS3 (Mac)

Hi all,
I'm using a Nikon D300 and just upgraded to CS3 on my MAC in no small part because the D300 was not supported by CS2. I am running into a problem though.
I always shoot in both JPEG and RAW modes. When I open Bridge I always see each JPEG version of a shot.
However, only about 50% of the time can I see the NEF (RAW) version of the thumbnail. The rest of the time I only see a generic "RAW" thumbnail with no image. This sporadic NEF viewability carries over to the preview pane when I select such a NEF file.
Furthermore, Camera Raw cannot open the NEF files that are not visible in Bridge. When I try opening them I get a message saying "Could not complete your request because Photoshop does not recognize this file type."
I have tried purging the Cache (through Tools) as some indicated in other forums threads but this has not helped. I have also downloaded the ACR 4.4 plugin and installed it in the correct library location.
Has anyone else experienced this (whether on a Nikon or other camera)? Any advice?
Thanks

I've finally solved the problem with having only some of my NikonD300 NEF files viewable in Bridge/readable by Photoshop! Jon Michael Riley had said he was having similar problems so I wanted to make sure he and anyone else has the info on what worked for me.
The issue does not have anything to do with purging the thumbnail cache or installing the latest version of Camera RAW 4.4.1. While they were good suggestions (offered by Adobe's Technical support people also), they do not resolve this particular issue.
I read that an earlier version of what Jon described as "Nikon's clunky software" had corruption issues when images were first transfered from the camera via Nikon PictureProject Transfer. It looks like the latest incarnation has the same issues. Nikon products can see the transfered images without a problem. HOWEVER, Adobe Bridge/Photoshop cannot rectify the corruption issue caused by transferring photos using Nikon's utility.
So here's the solution: DO NOT use Nikon PictureProject Transfer! It is a piece of garbage! Instead, make ADOBE PHOTO DOWNLOADER the default tool to transfer images from the camera. To make it default do the following:
Open Bridge, pull down the Bridge CS3 Preferences. Select the "General" preferences set. On this screen you will see "Behavior". The first clickable box reads "When a camera is connected launch Adobe Photo Downloader". Select this box to render this the default transfer tool.
If you still have the pictures on your memory cards you can re-transfer them using Adobe Photo Downloader. All your NEF files should now be readable by Bridge/Photoshop. I've told Adobe Tech Support about this problem with Nikon's software. Hopefully they'll be able to check this as an option if others call in with similar problems.
Unfortunately I have not figured out how to repair the corruption in the files I transfered earlier using Nikon's piece of garbage software. Since I don't have the images on memory cards anymore I can't just re-transfer them. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to do this? Will I ever be able to access my earlier NEF shots?
Cheers,
Greg
Thanks to everyone for trying to help resolve these issues.

Photoshop CS3 and Nikon D300s = BUYER BEWARE

I recently purchased a Nikon D300s and noticed an error message when I try to open RAW files in Photoshop CS3. I checked for an upgrade to the Camera Raw plugin and guess what? The upgrade that includes the D300s is only available for Photoshop CS4.
I called Adobe and they confirmed not only that I have to upgrade Photoshop but that because I purchased the Adobe Creative Suite, I have to upgrade the ENTIRE suite and CANNOT upgrade just Photoshop.
I'm not a programmer but it seems to me that when they upgrade Camera Raw (which they've done several times in CS3) all they do is add support for new cameras. I doubt there is so much programming being done that this pluging update cannot be supported by CS3. It's a complete rip off.

I doubt there is so much programming being done that this pluging update cannot be supported by CS3.
Oh, so the engine from 2010 Prius can be fitted into your 73 pinto without any problems?
Yeah, it's sorta like that.

Bridge 2.1.1.9 problems with Nikon D300 NEF files

I am getting a few Raw files from my Nikon D300 that will appear properly in Bridge, but the majority either don't show a preview at all or are very pixelated in appearance. The ones that do appear fine can be opened in ACR by right clicking and selecting "open in camera raw". However, the others that don't appear properly don't even show the option to open in camera raw. Yet the files are okay, because I can then open them from within Photoshop and process the files like that. The other odd behavior is that if I right click the thumbnail and rename the file then the thumbnail preview suddenly appears properly. Lastly, the pixel dimensions show incorrectly until the file is renamed.
I am using Windows XP SP2 with Photoshop CS3. Any suggestions would be appreciated. This has been very frustrating because initially it appears that the file may be corrupt.
Thanks!

This might not be helpful as I do not know why but .. I have a D300, and while Bridge is its usual flakey self, it has worked fine with the file formats. I tried all the combinations of compression and 12/14 bit and bridge sees them.
I do have cache weirdness, where it seems to reprocess them repeatedly, as though it is forgetful, but it does process and resolve them.
I've experimented with the "high quality previews" on and off, and when off the quality is definitely lower. Secondly if it is processing (or reprocessing) its cache, I see weirdness in the display where it may not display the quality preview either for a very long time, or not at all. But generally I've had no luck getting bridge to be usable while it processes its cache for a directory, I just let it finish and then use it.
However none of these flaky issues have been D300 specific, and been using it for a couple months now, and also with a D80 from my wife, no difference.

Elements 9 and Nikon D7100 NEF (RAW) problem

I'm running elements 9 and have upgraded to a Nikon D7100 when I try and open a NEF (RAW) file it gives me an error message saying file type not recognised. This used to work fine with my D90, does this mean elements 9 will not support a Nikon D7100

Unfortunately your software pre-dates the camera. You may need to consider buying PSE13. But it is possible to download and install the free DNG converter to convert your raw files to the Adobe universal Raw format and the files will open in all versions of PSE (keep your originals as backups and for use in the camera manufactures software)
Windows download (.exe file) click here DNG Converter 8.7.1
Mac download (.dmg file) click here DNG Converter 8.7.1
You can convert a whole folder of raw images in one click. See this quick video tutorial:
You Tube click here for DNG Converter tutorial

IPhoto 09 and Nikon's NEF format

I have a Nikon D90, iPhoto 06, Aperture 2.1.4, and run OS 10.6. I cannot import my Nikon's NEF files into iPhoto 06. I can upload and view them in Aperture.
If I upgrade to iPhoto 09, will I be able to upload and view them?

Johann
Welcome to the Apple user to user assistance forums
the Nikon D90 is supported in OS X 10.5.7 and later - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1475 - If you upgrade to iPhoto '08 or '09 and OS X 10.5.7 or later it will work
LN
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ACR 4.4 and Nikon D300

Hi,
I'm wondering if someone here could comment officially, unofficially, or even anecdotally on whether anything re: the D300 .nef handling has been changed in 4.4. To my eyes, the image quality of the conversion, i.e. detail extraction, color accuracy, etc. seems noticeably improved. Am I imagining this?
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Neil

There are two contributing factors to your perception of stability of Photoshop.
1. Bridge. It isn't stable and probably won't be in this version. Hopefully, CS4. Some things just happen, and then don't, and then happen differently. And nobody can figure out why. I have discovered workarounds for some problems, and Bridge seems to be fairly stable on my computer. For instance, I only apply settings to multiple images when I have Bridge in the light table mode (no side panels displayed). If I have any side panels open and I try to apply settings to multiple images, Bridge crashes every time on my computer. I have other little tidbits, but I won't bore you with them.
2. Windows Vista. Some people get along just fine with it. Others seem to be plagued with problems. I haven't followed the discussions closely, but it seems from the little bit of reading I have done that it is the people who are using the 64 bit version who are having the most problems.
As far as Russell Brown's stuff is concerned, it is really doubtful that any of that is causing problems on your computer. I use his plug-ins all the time. He is a real gem.

Photoshop CS3 and Nikon D300s

I just bought a new Nikon D300s. If I download the D300 Raw upgrade will I be able to process raw images from my D300s, or will I have to upgrade to CS4?

briano9223 wrote:
I just bought a new Nikon D300s. If I download the D300 Raw upgrade will I be able to process raw images from my D300s, or will I have to upgrade to CS4?
You need either CS4, which is needed to run Adobe Camera Ready 5.5 – or use the latest Adobe DNG converter (It's free.)
Look here: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=106&platform=Macintosh

Camera Raw, Photoshop CS2 and Nikon D40

Can't open camera raw images from my Nikon D40 in Photoshop CS2.
I downloaded the camera raw plug-in (3.7) but still cannot open the images.
Many problems:
1) I don't have the folder described in the instructions Library>Application Support>Adobe>Plug-ins>CS2?File Formats. My plug-ins are located inside my Photoshop folder. Even after I put the camera raw 3.7 in the plug-ins folder, it doesn't show up under "About Plug-ins."
2) I don't have an NEF plug-in anywhere. I searched the places mentioned in forums as well as a my entire computer.
Help!

Just one note of clarification that you need to understand. You do NOT have to match the version of the DNG converter with your version of Photoshop. You always want to use the latest version of the DNG converter. It will convert images from all of the most recent cameras that ACR supports. So, currently (as of today) you want to be using DNG converter version 4.4.1. It will create DNG files that will be compatible with any version of ACR back to version 2.4 which works with Photoshop CS.
The other thing to verify is what version of Camera Raw is installed on your computer. You want to make sure you are using version 3.7, because that is the last version that was created for Photoshop CS2. If you are using a Windows computer, open Photoshop and then go to Help/About Plug-Ins and click on Camera Raw. It should only be listed once; if it is listed more than once you have a problem. A dialog will appear that will indicate what version is installed. If it is anything other than ACR 3.7, then you don't have the latest version available.
Be aware that there will never be another update of ACR for Photoshop CS2. But if you keep track of the updates and always keep the latest version of the DNG converter on your computer you will have support for every camera that is supported by ACR.
I don't know if any of this information is helpful to you. I just want to help you understand how to integrate DNG files into your workflow.

I have PSE 4.0. How do I get it to read Nikon D300 .NEF's?

Hi,
I am not a computer expert and I am in a tizzy because I *just* started gaining momentum in learning Elements and then was surprised with a new D300 for Christmas (previously had a D70s which worked great with PSE4.0). So is there any way that I can get my current version of PSE to read these huge NEF files from my D300? I saw the initial message regarding ACR being available but it says 4.0.1 so is there a place where I can find out if I have the ".1" part of Elements? I tried out the Nikon editing software and it just seemed so cumbersome and I would REALLY like to not have to learn a whole new program if I don't have to. I love Elements! Thank you so much for any advice.

You can always use the most recent version of the DNG converter to create digital negative copies of your raw images. Those DNG files contain all of the original raw image data, and can be opened with any version of Camera Raw from 2.4 onward. That means you can always work with the most recent cameras that Camera Raw supports, but only with the version of Camera Raw that is compatible with your version of Photoshop or Photoshop Elements.
This has been a long-standing way of doing things as far as Adobe is concerned. Judging from some of the comments in this thread, apparently some of the people are not aware of the evolution of Camera Raw.
Incidentally, there is only one plug-in for Photoshop Elements for processing raw images. It is called Adobe Camera Raw.

Adobe Bridge and Nikon D300 files

Hi to everyone.
A simple question, for a simple answer (i hope..).
Will Adobe Bridge in the update 2.1.1.9 see my NEF files taken with a Nikon camera? Is that the latest update we have around?
Does any of you have experience with NEF files and Bridge?
Thank you so much in advance.
Ciao,
MB

It isn't the version on Bridge that has any impact on that. If you haven't already installed Camera Raw 4.5 then do that as soon as possible. I'm not sure which version added support for your camera, but it is supported in the latest version. Just make sure you install the plug-in in the proper folder. Full instructions are on the download page.

Photoshop CS2 and Nikon D200

Does anyone know when Adobe will make Photoshop CS2 compatible with the new Nikon D200? Attempting to get an answer or assistance from Adobe customer service is impossible. Photoshop CS2 CANNOT (will NOT) open Nikon D200 images. I merely get "Could not complete your request because of a program error" message when attempting to open D200 images within Photoshop CS2.

There is a lot of information on this in the Camera Raw forum on this Adobe users site.
The upshot is that they will have it "soon" and the manufacturers do not publish a date.

V1.3 and Nikon D100 NEF files - Not so good!

I still use a Nikon D100 for underwater work. I recently updated from Lightroom 1.1 to 1.3 and discovered some very strange results when working with NEF files generated by my D100. There is a dark magenta cast overlaid on every file. My D200 NEF files on the other hand look fine. I went back to Lightroom v1.2 and the problem is gone. I called support and they had the same problem on their end. I realize the Nikon D100 is quickly going the way of the Dodo bird but you would think Adobe would have at least tested this still common raw file format before releasing the updated build.
In any event, just a word of caution. If you still work with D100 NEF files I'd suggest not upgrading to 1.3.

Scott - you are experiencing the same confusion that I was. Here is what I did:
1. Google "download dng 4.2" - it should take you to Adobe's site where you can download the converter;
2. Create a folder in Lightroom under the folder where your compressed D100 NEFs - the magenta ones - are located; I titled mine "DNG Conversions";
3. In the DNG converter choose the source folder with the magentaized NEFS and the destination folder as the one you set up in step 2 above, and then "Convert";
4. When the conversion is complete, go into Lightroom, right-click the new folder and synchronize it. All of the new DNG files should appear in the "import" window. Once the new DNGs are imported (i.e., the new folder is synched), you should be able to work with them in Lightroom normally, magenta free.
I'm a novice user of Lightroom and had never done anything with the DNG converter...as such was really confused - didn't realize it meant you had to take the conversion process outside of Lightroom and then re-import the new images. Hope this helps. Best -
Bill

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