Custom Cropping in Lightroom

I want to crop my images to 840 px by 473 px but when I enter those numbers for a custom crop in Lightroom it defaults to 16x9. How can I change this?
I've tried ratios close to 840x473 and multiples of that combination but nothing allows me to get that exact ratio. I need this ratio for formatting on my website. Any help would be appreciated.

In Lightroom, you don't crop to pixel dimensions, you crop to aspect ratio and then EXPORT to pixel dimensions as near as possible at that aspect. If you want to crop to pixel dimensions you will have to use another program, do a lot of draging the crop corners around, or use Rob Cole's XMP CROP plugin.
840X473 is less than one pixel width of aspect ratio off from 16X9 so I can't see why it would cause a problem. Lightroom tries to HELP by rounding the aspect to one in its list and this is really only a display bug/glitch. It actually rounds when the numbers are even further off than this. I agree that if you input 840X473 that Lightroom should just leave the aspect alone. This behavior causes problems/bugs to show up in other places with the crop tool. See posts #30 and above in this link.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/6218903#6218903

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I understand what you are getting at. I went into PS and created a series of shape layers at the specified ratios and then centered them. I then expanded each proportionally so that there long side was 10 inches. On a portrait oriented photo there is a portion on the left and right that cropped on a 5x7 or 4x6. I tinted the shapes and then masked out the center area. I then save this as a .png file with the intent of using it as a watermark. This worked but is an after the fact confirmation.
While in the crop tool you can press the "O" key and rotate through different crop guides. The last one is a grid. (works the same in LR3) When I had the crop aspect ratio set to 7.5 x 10 (which LR4 simplfied to 3x4) this shows for me as a 12 wide by 16 long grid. Coincidentally, the crop danger zone appears to be very close to exactly one grid in width.
I don't know if this is a "close enough" solution for you.
**** I'm glad I didn't hit send before going back and looking at LR4 again. This works on a full size image with a maximum size crop. But if you starting shrinking the crop the grid size changes. Now if Adobe could maintain the grid so it ALWAYS shows in say 10 percent increments, then your danger zone would always be the left most and right most 10 percent.

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This is not currently possible. Your only customization available is the MRU List of the last 5 Custom Crops.

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You can do a portrait crop, as opposed to Landscape.
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Please make lightroom quicker for people who use 8x10 instead of the original proportions from your camera. I am aware of the trick to copy and paste or sync with crop, however if lightroom could have a way to setup at a default custom crop so it loads up that way when first used, and keeps the crop as the default from one photo to the next that would be great!
It would also be nice if when cropping and you need to make the canvas larger and go outside of the original dimensions of the photo that lightroom does this automatically. Right now I only know to use the scaling feature, it would be much quicker to just add this logic to lightroom so it scales outside of the photo when you are cropping if thats what you would like it to do.
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Brett I dont think you understand my question. theres two parts to it.
When you crop and select the aspect ratio theres no way to make this a default, so each time when i get to a new image i need to select 8x10 again. if 8x10 was made to be my default lightroom would not crop out some of the pixels unless I choose the crop tool and use the crop tool. I am just looking for lightroom to be faster its annoying how it defaults to the original image dimensions for the crop tool each time you select the crop tool you have to change the crop ratio.
The second request is one that rawshooter used to do automatically when you use the crop tool you can easily crop outside of the dimensions of the photo, thus making the canvas larger. this gives you an image that you can place into photoshop and fill the empty spots, this helps change the composition of the image if shot with the model in the center you can easily move the model with a crop and by filling the background in the new empty space especially easy with a simple background. I hope this helps, its easier to do more with lightroom. i do it right now with the scale feature in lightroom, but it would be faster if lightroom did it automatically if you pull the crop tool outside of the image area. Thank you!

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Wow...if this has been going on since Aperture 2 then Apple's engineers either (1) don't care, or (2) think they have a useful "smart" feature. Unfortunately, when software tries to be too smart it sometimes fails. On the surface, this is a simple fix. If an image custom crop ratio is not in the predefined list, LEAVE IT ALONE! Don't make any assumptions on the user's behalf and change it to something that isn't wanted.
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with iphoto 06, I could select custom and designate a crop of 5.5 x 4.0 inches, which perfectly fits my photo cards that I make. with 08, it doesn't seem to accept fractions.
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