Daisy chain an ethernet Router?

I've one of those ordinary Linksys 4 Port Ethernet
routers. If all my ports are full of Macs on Tiger,
and I need more ports to connect more stuff, can I
unplug one device, daisy chain it to another Linksys
router, and connect away?
Thanks in advance!
Home 'routers', such as most Linksys devices, are really a combination of a router and a switch. In your case, you have a router with two ports (the external port you can see and use to plug an Ethernet cable into, which is usually labled 'WAN' or 'Internet' or something similar; and an internal port connecting to the switch) and a switch with five ports (four external Ethernet ports, and one internal port connected to the router's internal port). A switch doesn't care what's hooked up to its Ethernet ports. You can connect anything to them... including another switch. I would NOT get another router; that will split your network up into subnetworks, and will generate a lot of work for no good reason... unless you want to put something over on the second subnetwork which is hidden from the rest of your local net. Instead, I'd buy a switch. There are large numbers of Linksys, Belkin, Netgear, 3Com, and many other vendor, 4 and 5 and 8 and 16 and 24 and 48 port switches. If you need, say, a total of 6 ports, buy an 8-port switch. You'll lose one port from the switch on the router, as you'll have to run a cable from one port to the new switch, but you'll get back either 8 or 7 ports, depending on how the switch is built. (The low-end ones will often use Port 1 as the uplink port, more expensive ones will have a dedicated uplink port) That'll give you a total of 10 or 11 Ethernet ports. Plenty of room for your current needs, and room to grow later. You can look for switches at Amazon and CompUSA and similar.

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I am using all three of my wired ethernet ports on the time capsule, and I need a fourth. Current set up is 1) Vonage VoIP adapter; 2) printer w/o wireless option; and 3) connection to a EoPL adapter.
I was wondering if I can buy a cheap ethernet hub and plug the hub (WAN or LAN port?) into the TC and get additional ethernet ports in the manner of a USB hub.
No, I don't want to put the printer on the USB port as it is shared over the LAN, and I don't want to buy another AirPort Express and set up the printer on that unless I have to.
If I can, what are the recommendations on type of hub, how to connect and which devices will funtion better (if any) plugged directly into the TC vs. the hub.
I am doing all of this because I want to add a Sonos bridge which needs a wired ethernet connection. Haven't looked at putting another EoPL node in and plugging the Sonos bridge into that directly.
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S

Any gigabit switch will work perfectly.. you can also use fast ethernet but gigabit matches the TC and are cheap enough. Switch is now a consumer electronics item.. walk into a large computer store ask for a gigabit switch.. name the number of ports you want, 5, 8, 16, 24 are standard. Carry switch home.. plug it into the TC .. any of the LAN ports.. to any port on the switch.. they are all auto now.. no uplink port. The limitation is a 1Gbit/s link between the two boxes.. so if you have very fast file transfers.. all should be plugged into the switch rather than the TC.
Best value is 8port.. and they now have green ones.. they auto turn off unused ports to save power.. the power saved is negligible but the heat disappation goes down and it runs cooler. Should be less than $80.. maybe even $50.

Router daisy chain?

I've one of those ordinary Linksys 4 Port Ethernet routers. If all my ports are full, and I need more ports, can I unplug one device, daisy chain it to another Linksys router, and connect away?
Thanks in advance!

Use the router to make the main connection to your modem, then get yourself an ethernet switch or a hub. Both a hub or a switch wil allow you to connect additional computers together, but I would suggest you use a switch because of the way it handles data. See this for an explanation.

Daisy chain isp to MP then out ethernet 2 to wireless hub possible?

hello
I have a 2 x 2.66 GHz macPro and am running 10.5.7
I have 2 ethernet ports in the back of my unit.
and I would like to run the internet into port one.
then daisy chain port to to my wireless hub. (a D-link dl-524)
I know this is a little unorthodox
but there seems to be an odd transfer issue when I go the other way (from my d link to my mac first)
and I need a nice clean signal and thought this may be the best way to go.
so any advice on setting within my network prefs?
thanks

the way I have it now is I have the ethernet going directly into my MP
then what I want is to use my second ethernet port as an out to my d-link so I can
go wireless with the same connection.
I don't want to do it the other way as for some reason it "dirty's" up my signal when I go into
the D-link then into my MP
does that make sense?

Daisy chain of routers

I've already got a 500GB Time Capsule on its way in the mail. I've just found out that I'm going to be moving into a house with a bunch of friends. The potential problem is that the owner of the house already has his own wireless a/b/g router (brand unknown) and cable modem (whatever Cox sold him with his internet) set up for the network. I've offered up my forthcoming Time Capsule for the purposes of wireless networking, but he's loathe to change his setup as it has been in place for some years.
In the interest of diplomacy, I've devised what I figure could be an amicable solution from a "societal" standpoint, but the technical machinations of which I am unsure. That is where my questions begin...
1) Would it be an easy (or even possible) solution to simply plug my Time Capsule directly into the cable modem and then daisy chain his router to the Time Capsule via ethernet cable? This way, if it works, we can have two networks (his original a/b/g and my n) running simultaneously.
2) Would this allow him to keep his network configurations intact while I'd have my Time Capsule network?
3) Would this present any great disadvantage--as far as network speed goes-- to either my network or his?
4) Like I said, I'm unsure of what kind of router he uses (definitely not an Airport), but would the router likely have any objection (security or otherwise) to being stuck on the end of a daisy chain like I've proposed?
5) Would there be any likelihood of interference from having two routers pumping out internet right next to each other? If so, will simply changing the frequency of the Time Capsule do anything to alleviate the problem of interference?
I know, the easiest solution is probably just to try it, but as I've said, the owner of the house is very happy with what he has set up and very reluctant to change it. He would like some sort of evidence that it won't foul everything up before I even begin to mess with it.
Thank you all very kindly for reading this. This might be sort of uncharted territory, but that's what we're here for, right?

Wow, thanks for letting me know about that other thread. Great info.
I have some follow-up questions for anyone who knows anything about this stuff.
1) I was thinking that putting a g router in between the cable modem and the Time Capsule would disallow using my Time Capsule in n mode. Am I incorrect in that assumption?
2) Another reason I wanted to put my Time Capsule in between the cable modem and the g router was that I was hoping I could do all the configuration in my Time Capsule and leave the g router settings alone. Is that a faulty assumption as well? Would I still have to mess with the g router's settings either way?

Can you daisy chain 2, 3 or more Core Duo Minis VTech style?

I'm interested in the mini(s) if I can daisy chain them to spread the workload on various minis....much like System X in Virginia Tech. I'm trying to use my $2K budget the best way possible.
If not, can I at least run logic on one and use the other as a node? If so, do I need to consider how much memory EACH has, or just the main mini?
Thanks in advance.
SX

Well, if 2 nodes is all you need you'll probably be fine using just the Giga Ethernet. Just pick the tracks with more processing to do if your nodes aren't working hard enough. More info...well you can find it in the Logic forums....what else do you need to know? You'll want a Router or just use 1 on FW and 1 on Ethernet. You just need to to network them, create a private network (noone else needs access to them). Install the node app as a startup item. Leave it running for weeks at a time.
If that's all you need it for then start with 1 GB and make sure you can follow upgrading procedures. I am pretty sure it is only recommended that you install in pairs, if you buy 2 1 GB sticks put one in each and leave the factory sticks in the other slot you should be OK.

Daisy chain two MI424WR routers?

I've been googling but have been unsuccesful and my friendly automated Verizon CR pop up box has no clue what I'm asking him :-)
Given the configuration in our house, we can only hardwire into the FIOS Internet in one location (with a MI424WR router), and I need a hard connection at a 2nd location to activate my slingbox.
I have a 2nd MI424WR that I'd like to daisy chain to the 1st one, at the secondary location where I have the slingbox. Once I have internet access at the 2nd location, I assume I can then get the slingbox working off of that internet signal at the 2nd router.
So....can anyone explain simply, step by step, how I can daisy chain the routers such that the 2nd router can piggyback on the 1st router's internet access?
Thanks so much - and the simpler and more straightforward the instructions, the better - I'm not the strongest techie in the world!

wOw! how confusing.
Actually, Your 2nd Verizon Router can be turned into just a basic switch, so no need to go purchase anything. - To make it act like just a switch instead of a router, You need to access that router's configuration page and turn off the 'DHCP Server' function.
to do that you need to connect a computer to that 2nd router via an ethernet cable (Plug the power cord in for that router, but do NOT connect that router to the internet) plug the cable from your computer into one of the 4 LAN ports on that router (not the WAN port)
open your internet browzer on the computer connected to that router and type in 192.168.1.1 in the address bar <- that should connect you to the page to enter the configuration pages of that router.
NOTE: If you hold in the reset button on the back of that router for 15 seconds, then let it go and wait about 2 minutes before you try the above process, you will have reset the default access codes on that router to make it easiest to gain access to.... the default login name = admin, and the default login password = password (or password1)    You may be directed to change the password the first time you access the router, but that is up to you if you want to change it.
Any way, log into the router    choose 'advanced' at the top, choose 'yes' you want to proceed, then look for 'IP Address Distribution' in the main part of the screen, open that,   you should see something like 'Network (Home\Office)' and on that same line out to the right you see a box labled 'Action' - click on that 'Action' box and another box opens. AT the top of that new box you see a listing for 'Services' and under that the only service listed should be 'IP Address Distribution' with a drop down menu to the right. By default it should say "DHCP Server".   Click on the drop down menu and choose 'disable'.   Then click on 'APPLY' at the bottom, then choose "logout" on the left.
NOTE:   If you ever need to reset that router, it goes back to the default settings, which makes it a DHCP server again. (There is a way to 'save' your current configuration to the computer the Router is attached to, so that you can 'restore' the current settings in the future without needing to go through all the steps here.)
after you have completed this, you need to connect the ethernet cable coming FROM your 1st router (which is the one assigning IP addresses) [plugged into one of the 4 LAN ports on the first router] to the second router by plugging that into the WAN port of the second router.    Then connect an ethernet cable from one of the LAN ports on the 2nd router to your device.
Your device will then receive an IP address.
NOTE:    The easiest, fastest way to have all this 'just work', will be to turn off the first router BEFORE you connect the second router to it.    Turn off all devices connected to the first router.   Have your 2nd router turned off as well as whatever you are going to be connecting to the 2nd router.   TURN everything off.    Then make all the connections. Then FIRST turn on the first (main) router.   wait until you have the internet light is green on that first router before you turn anything else on. SECOND, turn on the second router and wait until the internet light on it is green on it before you turn on anything else.    Then turn on whatever devices.   It should all just work.
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How do I daisy chain two wireless routers?

I have recently got a new wireless router from O2- Thomson router, "G"
This is set up at main BT socket as primary wi-fi router.
I wish to add two of my old routers as a daisy chain just to extend the range to those rooms where reception is poor.
One is a Thomson speedtouch 576, other is a Sagem provided by Sky. Both are "G".
help me with step by step instructions if you can please?
Thanks in anticipation.
Regards

Welcome to the discussion area!
Are you planning to connect all of your routers using ethernet cables? If yes, then you need to place the Thompson and Sagem devices into "bridge" mode. If no, then you need to contact support for Thompson and Sagem regarding your products.
Since this is the discussion area for the AirPort Express, AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule, we will not able to provide you with any details about the configuration of Thompson or Sagem products.

Daisy chaining W8960N routers

Can someone please help me understand daisy chaining W8960N routers.
Setup: Router 1 (R1 = 192.168.1.1) replaces HH3 without problem and an ethernet output from it goes from R1 to Router 2 (in this case R2 = 192.168.1.10).
1. Does R2 need a reboot after EVERY change or is there some guideline to when "Save & Apply" is adequate without a reboot?
2. If I disconnect R2 and make a change e.g. NAT enable/disable or change routing and then reconnect to R1, does R1 accept the new settings immediately or does it remember the old settings (in other words: Does R1 need a reboot when changes are only made to R2)?
3. Is R2 PPPoE or IPoE (or IoW)?
4. Does R2 see "the outside world" as its WAN port such that R1 is the IP address (or IP gateway address - [ these confuse me]) or does it see the outside world as R1's connection to BT modem. If the latter case does R2 still need to supply ISP userid and pswd?
5. DNS - Should R2 DNS point to the outside world servers or just to R1 (192.168.1.1) or does it make no difference.
6. There is consensus that only one router should have DHCP (R1) however most sites say that NAT must be disabled on R2. Steve Gibson's site explains how NAT on router 2 adds to security. Should it be on or off? Same with SPI firewall?
7. Finally, would R3's config be identical to R2 (except it's IP address).
Thanks

1. Does R2 need a reboot after EVERY change or is there some guideline to when "Save & Apply" is adequate without a reboot?
Mine needs a reboot every time
2. If I disconnect R2 and make a change e.g. NAT enable/disable or change routing and then reconnect to R1, does R1 accept the new settings immediately or does it remember the old settings (in other words: Does R1 need a reboot when changes are only made to R2)?
R2 doesn't affect R1 at all.
3. Is R2 PPPoE or IPoE (or IoW)?
R2 doesn't have it's WAN port connected, so it doesn't matter what you choose
4. Does R2 see "the outside world" as its WAN port such that R1 is the IP address (or IP gateway address - [ these confuse me]) or does it see the outside world as R1's connection to BT modem. If the latter case does R2 still need to supply ISP userid and pswd?
R2 doesn't have the WAN port connected, so ignored.
5. DNS - Should R2 DNS point to the outside world servers or just to R1 (192.168.1.1) or does it make no difference.
R2 doesn't have the WAN connected so ignored.
6. There is consensus that only one router should have DHCP (R1) however most sites say that NAT must be disabled on R2. Steve Gibson's site explains how NAT on router 2 adds to security. Should it be on or off? Same with SPI firewall?
You must disable DHCP on all routers except R1 - Only 1 DHCP server is required.
7. Finally, would R3's config be identical to R2 (except it's IP address).
Yes
Most importantly, disable QSS on all routers as this is a big security risk - it allows your wifi to be hacked.
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Daisy CHaining Macs

Ok, I am setting up an isolated mac only network for my school's Television Production department. We have ten macs and plan to gain two more by the end of the year.
Because of the location and the way the rooms are setup, the most effective way of setting up this network, is to have 3 macs daisy chained together and one of the three has an ethernet cord going to the router. (We still need to buy the router as of right now) I have connected the three macs and configuring them to have the same school proxies in both ethernet preferences and Enable Internet sharing. When I go to the network folder I can only see the mac's Neighboring macs icon, (When I am on the middle computer I see the other two, when I am on the end mac I only see the middle) I can't figure out why. All the settings are identical on all the macs.
Any help would be great. We also depending on district, may need to find a router
Some other Notes: This network is ment to go online Only for overnight Software updates
It is used for moving 512mb to 2 GB files from one computer to another
We plan to buy apple remote desktop to monitor computer Use.

Each Mac has two ethernet ports, So I connect the first to the wall, connect the second to the first one's empty ethernet port, and the third to the second.
That's not the way it works - or, at least, if you can get it to work it's massively over-complicated for what you're trying to do. In order for the third Mac to get to the outside world the first and second Macs will have to be running connection sharing which inherently means running NAT.
This will have the effect of connections from Mac 3 being NATted by Mac2, and then NATted again by Mac 1, oh, and from your IP addresses it looks like Mac 1's connections are then NATted by the school network.
The same is also true for any connections between Mac 3 and Mac 1 - it all has to go through (and get NATted) by computer 1, thereby impairing throughput on the network, and processing resources on Mac 2.
Do yourself a favor and get a switch. Plug the connection from the wall into the switch. Plug each Mac into the switch. Problem solved.

Can You Daisy Chain Verizon Actiontec MI424WR Routers???

I currently have an Actiontec MI424WR router which is a wireless G router. Since I have some Tivo HD units in the house (they use wireless G) that I'm looking to upgrade to Tivo Premiere (they use wireless N), I'd like to upgrade my wireless network to wireless N (I would be able to transfer HD shows between Tivo units ALOT faster over a wireless N network as the G network I have now is very slow). I also will be buying my son an Xbox and the faster network would help with all the online gaming.
Since Verizon doesn't yet offer a wireless N router, I'm trying to come up with a solution and I think I might have one.
I'm sort of a newbie with networking but here is what I'm looking to do:
I'd want to buy a second router that has wireless N capabilities (I'm looking at the Netgear WNDR3700 Rangemax Dual Band Wireless N). Then I will go into the Verizon Actiontec router and turn off the wireless function. Next I will connect the new router to my PC and turn on the wireless function, disable the DHCP and assing the new router a different IP address. Then I will connect the two routers using an ethernet cable from the Actiontec LAN port the the Netgear's LAN port. Essentially, what I want to do is have the Actiontec router still bring in all the information in from the ONT but have the Netgear router send it out via it's wireless N signal.
I think in theory this should work but I wanted to pass it by the forum to see what details I'm missing here. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, including any details as I quickly glossed over my idea in the paragraph above.

Your options are to either buy a Wireless N router, DISABLE DHCP on it, and then plug them together (the internal / ethernet side, do NOT use the WAN port on the new router in this scenario.) That would make you effectively use it as a wireless access point instead of a router. You do not want to get into daisy chaining routers, it'd doable, but not a complication you need in your scenario.
Honestly if I were you I'd just get a wireless N access point. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4468240&CatId=372

Daisy chain two external drives via Firewire, then connect one via USB to the TC?

Hi,
I have two external drives that have both Firewire and USB ports. My 1st generation 500 gb Time Capsule (maybe all of them?) only has USB ports so up til now, I have connected one or the other drive via USB. (I've tried to connect both to a powered USB hub but one drive has problems showing up. At this point I only use the one drive that shows up and connect it directly with no hub to the Time Capsue.)
My question is: Can I daisy chain the two drives via Firewire and then connect one of them (probably the one that has no problems connecting with USB) to the Time Capsule via USB?
Second, somewhat-related problem...
I don't know why one drive isn't connecting very well when directly connected to the Time Capsule. Both are Fantom drives. One is a 1TB, the one that has prblems connecting is a 250GB. I've tried connecting directly or through a powered hub. The 1B has no problems, the 250 gb won't show up most of the time and disconnects itself fairly quickly if it does connect. I've switched cables; that hasn't helped. The 1TB stays connected most of the time but sometimes it disconnects too. I suspect the Time Capsule just isn't able to deal with external drives so I don't puch it. It would be nice to be able to have both drives accessable through the TC though.
Thanks for any help.
Cheers,
John

Doing some experimentation, connecting the drives directly to the MBP:
- Neither of the two drives Firewire daisy-chained and going through the powered USB hub connected to the MBP mount. I was using old aliases on desktop.*They don't show up on network otherwise. (Each drive self-mounts with both Firewire and USB direct connections.)
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- All of the USB and the Firewire cables work as does the Thunderbolt adapter. I tested them.
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I have two Dell u2713h monitors on my desk at work.
I also have a Macbook Pro10,1 (early 2013) with a grand total of two TB ports
I need to use one of the two TB ports for a TB-to-ethernet adapter because there are well in excess of 30 wireless access points visible to my computer from my desk which means using our company's wifi is a no-go, I'm literally getting disconnected 1-2 times per minute.
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I'm running OS X 10.9.4
As far as I know it should be possible to daisy chain the monitors (I am, of course, running my MBP in clamshell mode with external mouse and keyboard) but when I connect them as follows:
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I cannot get my out of the box one new Dell monitor, model u2415 to work with my MacBook Pro (MBP). I have a MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2011). I have no other external monitor.
After working with Dell Tech Support, they tell me it is "Plug-n-Play" and incompatible with Apple. However, I find on YouTube and here, people using this new Dell monitor.
I told Dell, I cannot get any Menu or what have you, to come up on the Dell. Only the "Inputs" selection. I think that's where the problem is.
Frankly, after two nights and four hours or so (also with Apple). I'm about to give up.
Am I missing something? Ideas???

Daisy Chain 24" Monitor to 27" Thunderbolt Display

Hi everybody,
I have the 2011 MBP with the 6750m and I want to buy the new 27" Thunderbolt Display. Currently, I'm using a Samsung 24" DVI Display with the Display Port to DVI adapter that I bought with the MBP.
I was wondering if I can continue to use the 24" and daisy chain it to the Thunderbolt Display?
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Kevin can you confirm this? Do you have a Thunderbolt Display, with a MiniDisplayport to DVI hooked up to your Dell laptop? I presume this works, but that you only have the monitor and speakers working, without the USB/Ethernet/TB port that are on the back of the display?
I am waiting for somebody to test this so I can decide to buy the display yes or no so please let me know asap : )
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Best way to have an iMac second monitor and Thunderbolt daisy chain?

I'm getting new iMacs for my school lab & wish to daisy chain with Thunderbolt cables into pods of 6 for backing up. I also want to run a second monitor with each iMac. What is the best way to do this since both Thunderbolt ports will be used? USB 3.0 to HDMI?

Canadian Tech Teacher wrote:
By "pods" I had meant creating little LAN's of 6 computers connected to a Thunderbolt drive but I've been doing a lot of reading and now I'm wondering about whether that can actually be done?
The only Mac to Mac connections that Thunderbolt supports that I know of are target disk mode & target display mode, neither of which supports a daisy chain topology or is suitable for a multi-host LAN. (Only one Mac can be the host in either of these modes.)
However, if you want to crete six computer LANs for backups, you could use traditional Ethernet or WiFi LANs & (for instance) a large NAS drive array, or Airport Extreme Base Stations with one or more USB drives attached to them. You could also use Time Capsules, but that is more expensive than going with AEBS's & attached drives. Obviously, wired LAN's would be more suitable for multiple "pods" of six Macs, both because of better reliability & elimination of WiFi channel contention that would show down wireless throughput.
Of course, this isn't as fast as a Thunderbolt drive connected directly to a Mac, but the only way I know of to do that is by connecting to one Mac at a time, which probably would negate any backup copying speed advantage.
Thunderbolt drives (& cables) are expensive so their use is really only justified where very high speed data transfers are necessary. If you don't need that, you might consider a simpler solution of one (or for redundancy two) USB 3.0 drives per iMac, since they are relatively cheap & still offer high speed data transfers.

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